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04-10-02, 14:04
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dcguyxxx
04-12-02, 14:15
Any updates on SunStar AMP on Lee Highway in No. VA?

traveler
04-12-02, 20:53
Anyone know about a MP that advertises in the Washington online classifieds? Ad states that "a young white couple will do 4-hands massage and old or extremely large men are "exceptionally" welcome. Sounds like it might be a little kinky? Says that they are located a block from Dupont Circle Metro.

CT Hobbyist
04-13-02, 11:04
On trip to DC came across a black SW named Charity. Stay Away! She is very very dirty, and diseased! I saw her on NY Ave up by the Texaco near Howard Univ.

fantasyzfreddy
04-13-02, 12:25
Is Tokyo Garden (Korean Massage Parlor) on Vermont Ave still open?

Bysshe
04-15-02, 10:39
Now we have to rebuild the array of postings here, because checking an "Old" and "New" forum is too much of a pain.

Oh, well.

A generic hint: pretty much every single spa that advertises in the Washington Post's Sports sections and is open past 10PM is at least HJ. Many are FS.

A specific review: "Downtown" the place between K& L on Vermont, 4th floor. FS definitely available. $60 door fee and I tipped $100, after the fact. We negotiated the entire thing with a questioning look on her part and a nod on mine. Girl was very cute, slim, Korean, early 20s, maybe a 7 overall.
She went by 'Yo-yo'.

balabon38
04-19-02, 18:01
to BYSSHE
Hi,
Can you tell me when you visited Downtown and saw Yo-Yo? Recently? I know her and want to see her again. She was very good.
Thank you

balabon38
04-19-02, 18:02
Who visited AMP Mirage advertised in Sport section of Wash. Post? Is it good?

balabon38
04-19-02, 18:13
to everybody:
I propose to create a list of good and bad AMPs. And then to add names of new good girls. It would be much easier too navigate.

Bysshe
04-19-02, 19:42
Originally posted by traveler
Anyone know about a MP that advertises in the Washington online classifieds? Ad states that "a young white couple will do 4-hands massage and old or extremely large men are "exceptionally" welcome. Sounds like it might be a little kinky? Says that they are located a block from Dupont Circle Metro.

OK, I tried these guys. What can I say? I'm open minded; I thought it might be kinda kinky to experience.

First of all, it's not a private home or apartment - it's a massage place. Secondly, it's not a "young white couple." The staff appears to be Middle Eastern.

Mainly, though, I don't think there are any extras besides massage, at least in the couples arena. I was VERY blatant in opening the door, and the couple ignored my invites to stray from straight massage.

I did maybe get the sense that there might be a gay male clientele and extras available from male-only masseurs. But that open-minded, I'm not. I could see being in an MMF threesome, but not an MM twosome, even for research purposes.

So that's my review. $80 for an hour, $100 for 90 minutes. I left no tip, and stopped by Downtown afterwards to drop a load (Yo-yo again, by the way!)

Bysshe

fantasyzfreddy
04-21-02, 03:19
So Downtown is what Tokyo Garden used to be...? Ahhh...

Then I remember when you could get FS for $150 or "suck and fuck" as they put it.

cul8rbabe
04-21-02, 03:40
Does anyone know what the deal with dclatina.com is? It is a latina massage parlor or something with some pictures online there are about 3 good looking girls on the site I would like to meet if anyone knows something let me know?

traveler
04-21-02, 13:24
Cul8rbabe, the dclatina.com is a farce. None of those girls work there. I have not been there, but was thinking about it and did some research. I called and talked to a girl there. She said there was one latina working there from Venzuela. She said the girls "come and go". The address is 233 Florida Ave. I would not expect to find one of those whose picture is on the site to be working there. It's a shame. I would love to find a good latina *****. Their heavy black bush really is a turn on.

balabon38
04-21-02, 14:14
to traveler and cul8rbabe:
Please read my current report about DCLatina (see Old Disc. Board). I've said everything about it

cul8rbabe
04-21-02, 22:01
Does anyone know anything about the escort Leila from wouldyoudateme.com or geosex.nl . She's Indian and her pics are really good, but I've never heard to much about her. What escorts/agenecies/AMP are good in the D.C. area?

It's a shame about the DClatina site, there are some hot chicks on the website.

dcstud
04-23-02, 12:32
Downtown is always a good bet in terms of looks and service. I've also found street parking to be ample at night. I definitely consider it the top one in the city.

Good Luck.

balabon38
04-23-02, 17:21
I agree. Downtown Spa is very good. I visited it to=day.
Bad news - Yo-Yo is gone.
The good news: I saw at least 7 girls, mostly nice and very nice.
I choose Baaby. She is 5'6, beautiful, nice tits with big dark nipples. Very warm and sensative. She gave me FS, kissed deeply with open mouse, massaged my rectum and finaly came with me.
Officialy the girls now do not provide massages.
I give her 8 for appearance, body and for service. The cost 60/100. She was pleased. Me too.
Try. Good luck.

rip3138
04-27-02, 03:28
I'm trying to find some nice young (less than 26) ladies to become regulars with, if anyone can please email me at rip3138@hotmail.com and give me more info. Thanks.

Also, I noticed that the other forum had a lot of comments about DC SW willing to do Greek, does anyone know if that is still the case? Also, what are the going prices for f/s, greek, bj in DC now and days?

luv2luvladys
04-28-02, 10:57
Anybody know anything about the escort service afterhoursdc?

They advertise some beautiful f/s ladies, but I haven't found anything here. Two of their ladies are in the top 100 on digdoggie.

Anybody know if it's a ripoff?

vanti
04-28-02, 15:37
Went to Supra Spa a couple of days ago. Beautiful tall, slender, girl with perfect young breasts. Her name was Jade (or Jae?).
So-so massage, but great F/S! Covered BJ, but a little rimming and DATY. I took a shower at home before I went, so I got the table shower afterwards - perfect!

04-29-02, 11:35
Do you think these spas...Supra, Downtown and Royal are better during the day or at night?

Bysshe
04-29-02, 14:11
Yet another visit to Downtown. There seems to have been a staff turnover here, and all of the new girls are on the big-breasted side -- unusual in an Asian staff.

I saw Tina. Very good FS, kissing as well... about as close to a GFE as I've had there. Easily a nice C cup, maybe 5'5", 110, nice flat tummy. Dyed blonde hair. 7-9 on anyone's scale.

60 door / 120 tip. (Hey, I was impressed!)

There are a number of new girls that look equally good, so I'll be back.

On the way out, two curious women came in, evidently thinking there was a restaurant there, since the street front door has some former tenant's name on it. I have no idea if they climbed up four flights of stairs, and how they were greeted when they arrived!

Mighty Spearsman
04-30-02, 16:19
Back in late 2001 I had posted a message requesting if anyone had any info on "Heavenly Hands" which is a massage service run by a black Cuban named Maria Rios. There wasn't much of a response, so again - any feedback? I'll be visiting D.C. in mid-May and would like some info before I give her a call.

In return, let me recommend the AMP that's located on the 3rd floor of the same building as ICM (2nd floor), on 18th Street between 18th and 19th. ICM appears to still be HJ only (I haven't been there in almost a year) but the AMP on the 3rd floor provided me with excellent FS recently. Sorry I can't remember the name, just that it has new management within the last year (under old management it was nothing special).

Has anyone else had a good experience at this AMP, also has anyone ever gotten more than a HJ from ICM?

Bysshe
05-01-02, 11:01
Spearsman:

That third floor AMP is just that - an Asian Massage Parlor. In my view, the benefit of ICM is that it's got white, black, and occasionally a nice Latina there. As you suggest, the downside is that it's HJ only.

The woman that runs it is pretty hard over on the HJ-only rule. Any girl that does more risks losing the job. That said... anything is possible with enough cash, at the right time.

I think the $64,000 Question is: is there a reliably-FS place that isn't Asian in DC?

Not to say that there are not a lot of cute Asian girls working the various FS AMPs. But... man craves variety.

Bysshe

dcstud
05-01-02, 17:31
I've never been to it but Candy's Spa is a guarantee on FS. I believe it is just Black women though.

Good Luck.

fantasyzfreddy
05-01-02, 18:27
What is this I am seeing right now on the news about a place called Royal Spa in DC that got busted by the INS today?

Several young ladies arrested etc...

I would suggest keeping away from this one today guys.

Apparently News 4 is going around interviewing all the neighbors about "just what kind of business the place did anyways". Actually this might serve as a red flag for all the MP in DC the next couple of days. They might be getting more visits from not just INS agents, but if enough of a stink is raised by this one today, DC Metro might be sending some clean cut young men to test the perverbial waters at the "spas".

Bysshe
05-02-02, 10:30
From the NBC News 4 web site (http://wxnet4.nbc4.com/news/1429291/detail.html), details of the story...


WASHINGTON -- A joint police and FBI task force staged a raid on the Royal Spa at 520 10th St. Northwest. News4 was on the scene when one man attempted to flee police on foot. He was captured after a block -long chase, but he lost a shoe during the pursuit.

Police say the indictments against several women seen being taken from the building in handcuffs are sealed, so the details of their alleged crimes are not known. Nor are the charges filed against the men taken into custody known. Officers were also seen removing boxes from the 10th Street office.

Apparently, although INS agents participated in the raid, the primary agencies were the MPD and FBI.

Be careful out there. I suspect it's going to be harder to get FS -- or, indeed, anything else -- for a while at the DC AMPs.

But it'll only be temporary. These things always are.

- Bysshe

TrashMan
05-02-02, 19:59
Bysshe,
I have been to most MP's in DC and find them boring after a while in that the routine is so predictable. And, as you point out, there are none that are not Asian. they seem to rule this domain.

Having said all that, Royal had some real little hotties that wasted little time with amenities and got right down to business if you were even remotely a regular. I personally recommend a girl named Cookie. Too bad they got busted. Seems odd that INS and FBI did it. I guess they got tired of hearing reports and the DC LE not moving on it. Gee...I wonder why? $$$ ?

Creeper
05-02-02, 21:01
I am going to DC this weekend and was planning on visiting Downtown. But after the the recent post about Royal, I am a little hesitant. I've never been to downtown spa, and am looking for some feed back about the safety. Has it been busted before, is it close to royal spa, descrete entrance, ect.... any help will be gratefull and a full review will be posted once I have visited. Thanks....

05-02-02, 23:52
creeper, you may want to call ahead to see if they are still open but I would recommend taking the drive to Waldorf, MD. I was in town a few days this week also and was at the Downtown Spa the day before Royal and IHC were busted (Tues.). All the other spas closed I guess because they were worried they were next. I was at the Waldorf Spa on Wed. and saw Mimi, pretty nice looking young tall girl but I wish I had more time to check the others in Waldorf and find a really beautiful girl because they are down there.

fantasyzfreddy
05-03-02, 09:36
If the FBI was involved, this seems to be more than a simple massage parlor sweep.

It has been rumored for years that many of the young Asian ladies are imported and/or forced to work in these massage parlors by some sort of organized crime syndicate overseas.

Wouldn't surprise me if there is something else going on behind the scenes at your friendly neighborhood massage parlor using the act of giving "massages" as a cover.

FBI probably wants to know how the ladies came into the US, are they here legally, which states they are working in, is money from the parlors being funneled outside the US to finance some other organization, are they making covert contact with persons pretending to be customers and what for, is there any drug activities going on...etc.

Frankly your involvment in getting a "massage" doesn't really matter in the big picture. Of course I wouldn't want to be lying naked on a table when the boys with badges come charging through the little pink door with guns drawn. They obviously have these places under survillence and most likely wait until the customers leave before intiating any sort of bust to cut down any hostage taking or misunderstandings that might arise.

Bysshe
05-03-02, 11:37
Freddy:

I agree that if it's a federal probe, they're not too concerned with arresting any hapless customer that might be in the midst of erotic excess when they bust in.

The danger to us hobbyists (ah, rationalization, thy name is euphemism) is from the DC Police, who are perfectly willing to pursue those sort of charges, and even more from News 4 cameras and the like, who would just love footage of people vainly trying to shield their faces as they scurry out of the raid.

Trashman:

You're right - there are definitely a number of hotties available, both at Royal and at other places. But we're in agreement too that a steday diet of Asian poontang, while certainly better than sitting at home yanking your pud to old Love Boat reruns, stil loses something in the long run.

In Virginia, there is at least one place that doesn't advertise, has all the clientele it needs, and features a very nice mixture of nationalities and races. I won't publicize the name or exact address; those already in the know will know it when I say it's near Costco in Newington. I would hate to give a roadmap to this place here and then find it busted.

The question -- is there a similar establishment in DC or Maryland?

- Bysshe

Maxwell
05-03-02, 16:33
Wow, I wish I had known about this bust before I left yesterday. I think I'll at least start calling before I go to these AMP's. Last night I went out to Royal about 9:30. rang and no answer. same thing happened about about 3 or 4 weeks ago and I posted about it, no one answered my post, and I assumed they were just full or temporarily closed that day. I went over to Supra after no answer at Royal last night. I saw a couple guys with jackets that had some type of badge on it, but I didn't recognize it. It was a very small badge. One was standing just inside the open door talking on his radio. I went in and got the regular services ok. When I came out, the guys were gone. So I assume they were there on something unrelated. Maybe not even le.

traveler
05-03-02, 18:53
Bysshe, my email is travel_va@hotmail.com. Would appreciate more info on that AMP in Newington near Cosco. Very close to my area and I'm interested in some variety. Thanks. Traveler.

traveler
05-03-02, 18:58
Oops Bysshe, correction on my email address. It is traveler_va@hotmail.com I left of a couple of letters. Traveler

sailorbob
05-04-02, 21:53
Visited Supra last Tue night, serviced by Jai. Great body, great attitude, great experience overall. Massage was excellent and thorough, worth the price in and of itself. CBJ and FS were not rushed, and I felt like I was being taken care of rather than rushed out the door. I would definitely repeat if in DC again.

balabon38
05-05-02, 18:23
To-day Sunday may 5 at 6PM I called several AMP including Downtown, Supra Spa and Happiness (corner F and 10th). They all work . Looks like everything OK for now.

Bysshe
05-08-02, 09:42
Went by Downtown yesterday at about 12:30 PM. Door was locked. This was the street, glass door, so I assume they were closed.

Anyone been there recently? Balabon says he called them on Sunday -- anyone visit them on Monday or Tuesday?

I would hate to see them go -- they're only a Metro stop away from my office.

CT Hobbyist
05-10-02, 19:10
Just a tip for you guys that are looking for a new place. Check out http://www.eros-dc.com/eros.htm On it, you can find some girls who do a nice "massage" for cash. Rates vary from $150 all the way up to $300 for most, with the occasional supermodel quality asking for something ridiculous. I have been to a few of the girls, and they are nice, and most stack up decent to their pics. Stay away from the ones that say no full service massage, and your all set. They are all over the area, and pretty good in general. Great variety too, esp for those of you who are sick of the AMP's like I was. Hope you enjoy the site.

mrmr
05-10-02, 19:29
Like to know where about is this place in Newington ?

fantasyzfreddy
05-12-02, 15:03
Hmmm...

Me thinks that CT Hobbyist is trying to post an ad for his website...

Yeah, yeah several online sites with updated listings.

Eros DC
DC Exotics
DC Erotica
Hot DC Nights
Escort America

Good places for reviews:

*********.net
TheEroticReview.com
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Have to watch out for online scams relating to providers setting up escort listing websites then filling it with ads for their own agency girls, most of whose pictures are fake and the names have changed several times. --> Several such scam artists have ads on Eros DC by the way.

** First indication that something might be wrong with an escort is when you call the number asking for a particular girl who just happens to not be available, but oh they can set something up with this other girl who will just be several minutes late to the appointment and at a different hotel than the one you set up to go to with the people on the phone. RUN, RUN, AS IF YOUR LIFE DEPENDED ON IT!!! Save your money for another day of sordid pleasurings. Don't listen to the little troll in your pants telling you just to go for it with the 500lb behemoth awaiting you inside. **

CT Hobbyist
05-14-02, 08:36
Originally posted by fantasyzfreddy
Hmmm... *sniff* *sniff*

Me thinks that CT Hobbyist is trying to post an ad for his/her? company...



If you think that, then your paranoid, but I understand why you might make such an accusation. I am just trying to help you guys out, and I found a lot of good incall girls from that website when I lived in DC, and trying to pass the info along to you all, as the street scene has deteriorated rapidly the last few years. I am just a hobbyist like the next guy, and thought I found a good resource, so I thought I would pass it on. Oh well, enjoy it if you try it, else good luck with the same old same old!

vanti
05-15-02, 00:04
Visited Downtown on Sunday at around 2pm.

I got Mimi. She was about an 8, with a pretty face and big, firm, fake boobs. She was nude throughout the thorough massage. Nothing special on the FS.

I thought I had read that you could pick from a line-up, but this was not the case. They seemed to have a couple of girls working there, and I recognized one from a regular place I used to go to in Mont. Co..

Is there a place that offers a line-up? Where is it?

Mikey
05-15-02, 10:15
Originally posted by Bysshe
Freddy:

I agree that if it's a federal probe, they're not too concerned with arresting any hapless customer that might be in the midst of erotic excess when they bust in.

The danger to us hobbyists (ah, rationalization, thy name is euphemism) is from the DC Police, who are perfectly willing to pursue those sort of charges, and even more from News 4 cameras and the like, who would just love footage of people vainly trying to shield their faces as they scurry out of the raid.

Trashman:

You're right - there are definitely a number of hotties available, both at Royal and at other places. But we're in agreement too that a steday diet of Asian poontang, while certainly better than sitting at home yanking your pud to old Love Boat reruns, stil loses something in the long run.

In Virginia, there is at least one place that doesn't advertise, has all the clientele it needs, and features a very nice mixture of nationalities and races. I won't publicize the name or exact address; those already in the know will know it when I say it's near Costco in Newington. I would hate to give a roadmap to this place here and then find it busted.

The question -- is there a similar establishment in DC or Maryland?

- Bysshe

Waldorf is good... try the little house down the road from the spa's - there is a new self storage facility right behind it... I am a frequent visitor there and you will enjoy FS without any problem. The place in Newington - could you give me details/location backchannel at mikey1227@hotmail.com... much appreciated

- Mikey

fantasyzfreddy
05-15-02, 17:59
As I have said before, I haven't been to Downtown in a while. Went twice about three years ago when it was called Tokyo Garden. Both of those times a lady would approach me as I was sitting on the little couch by the door enjoying a beer and ask me if I was ready. She also asked if I wanted to wait and see another girl if I didn't want to see her. So basically my impression was that it wasn't so much a line-up, as a thing where you could wait for another lady to finish up with another customer if you didn't want the first lady.

Only time I went to a massage parlor where there was so much as a line-up was out in Frederick, MD at the Alpine Spa. I have been there about three or four times, only once did I get that line-up of about 4 girls. Since then I am greeted by one lady who then becomes my masseuse for the session. No asking if I wanted to wait for another lady. Although only once did I wish I had gotten the lady who greeted the guy before me. She was a blond with large perky tits. Probably doesn't work there anymore.

Anyways... a few details about Alpine Spa in case you are wondering. Definitely not a FS place. They tell you that up front. HR only as far as I can tell, with a full strip down and light petting. The girls expect a large tip for their efforts. Typical setup with a table shower, sauna, jacuzzi, table massage in private rooms. Set prices of between $110-160.

TrashMan
05-15-02, 23:04
The old forum had a trail regarding Clicks Bar and the action surrounding it. I went there one night, too early I knew, but I had to see this joint for myself. What a dive! but, you could see how it could be really cool with lots of late night sluts. So...what's the latest? Is it alive or dead and what time should you show up to score with decent looking selections?
Are there any other alternatives similar to the Midway in Baltimore's block?
As I have said before, AMP's have become boring. I did take some advice from an earlier posting and checked out the ads in the City paper. Lots to choose from, but quality is not great. one ad for Cherry Hill promises lots of girls and when you call and are specific about what you want, they assure you they got it, but upon arrival, it's apparent that it's just one black chick that doesn't look too bad but couldn't suck or fuck worth a damn. major rip off in terms of quality. Tried another that turned out to be a skanky crack hoe, ugh!
Tried one other that although a little heavy, is a real little young **** that clearly likes it. One time she couldn't make time so she got a friend of hers to take her place that was equally slutty in terms of letting me do whatever I wanted, no matter how degrading. Wow! Next time, i'm doing them both together.
Still, the search for the perfect ***** eludes me. You find a great looking one with a great body and they've got too many rules like no BBBJ, or no anal, or no pussy eating or some other bull. You find one that will let you play the way you like, but you compromise on the looks department. It's frustrating, but I will keep searching and find her!

Bysshe
05-16-02, 15:33
Trashman:

A bit more detail on your will-do-anything finds would be appreciated. It's great to brag about a find - greater still to share info, eh?

WordUp
05-16-02, 16:59
HEY I ORIGINALLY POSTED ABOUT THE "CLICK BAR" and getting an SW near the hotel on Rhode Island.

THE "CLICK BAR" is a real dive, but it is a place the SW choose to gather at for a quick drink.

When I visit D.C. I sit in the car and see who is coming through the area to the bar. I seldom go in. I have some SW who I have befriended, and I will go in with them, or ask them to get me this type is lady. I look alot like a damn cop, and a lot of good SW will become very nervous around me. till they know I am "okay."

.... I have found a good number of SW I can pick up near Club 55 on "K" street. Good quality, good price. $50-75-100. according to looks, dress, and possible pimp.

.... I also hang out at the Texaco station on New York Ave., or see if I can book a quick room for the day at the motel right up the street. I don't stay there, I get a hotel in Silver Springs, Maryland. But, I get the room for sex with the SW. So I have a place to go. Get a room early, because these ladies work out of them, WHICH IS A BIG AZZ "PLUS." You can go door to door. There is a lot of LE through the lot, and the area. This is good for your safety, and great, so now you can save money on room fees. And you can max after a good hard nut.

Up the street is a lot of corner SW, so you can tell them to meet you at the motel. .
.... I have had 7 SW @ $75 each for FS, at my room, and the SW like staying in the area of safety. I have yet to have any trouble.

I have seen a lot of trouble in the area. Good Luck, being alert, being extra careful, and Prayers, have kept me safe.


((((((( WORD UP .... JUNKMAIL220@EMAIL.COM )))))))


>>>> WORD <<<<

TrashMan
05-16-02, 18:27
BYSSHE

Details huh? Ok, best I can do is to suggest you get a copy of the City Paper and call some of the girls advertising to get a feel for them.

One will describe herself as a redhead 38DD. The reality is she's a little heavy, but well proportioned.

Details on the sex...no inhibitions at all. will play any role you want. Deep deep throat, any position and anal.

BBBJ no problem everything else safe. No rush. Nice dirty talker if she senses you like it. Great fantasies in this girls head including bestiality.

As wild as I continue to get with her, she keeps up!

TrashMan
05-18-02, 11:41
I saw older posts on Latin Palace in old Forum that were pretty negative. See new ad in AMP section of sports for them so I called. $75 for massage and FS was the description. Anybody have experience with them?

traveler
05-18-02, 16:17
Trashman, I saw the ad myself in this morning's Post. I have never been there but am tempted as hell to go. I would love to have a Latino piece of ass. But I have read some negative stuff about this place, dirty, etc. I called them a couple of times. The last time I called, she said they had a "beautiful girl from Venzuela". I said, "only one girl?" and she said yes. I asked about parking and she (the "receptionist") said she didn't know for sure but said I could park at the gas station across the street. Sure, and get towed! Also, she said that when I got there to call on my cell phone and she would come down and open the door. I told her that I didn't have a cell phone (guess I should get in the 21st century, but I'm an old fart). She said she would watch for me. Apparently they are on an upper floor. I never went. Too far for me. I guess you could take the Metro. There is a Metro stop about a half mile from there. Not sure about the area though. $75 is a little high for house fee. I wonder what FS would cost? Maybe less than a hundred. That would make it comparable to the AMPs. But don't know. If you try it out, please let me know here or at my email. traveler_va@hotmail.com. I am also trying to find out about an AMP in the Newington area in Virginia near Cosco. They don't advertise. If anybody has any info on that, I would appreciate it. I visited HWC in Lakeridge Friday. Read my post at the Northern Virginia board. Great Service, Great Girl, Great Everything!

dcstud
05-18-02, 16:55
This post has some more information on the Latin Palace:

http://www.gentlemensreview.net/dcforum/DCForumID5/272.html

An official review:

http://www.sex-reviews.net/Reviews/Display/parlor.php?city=Washington+DC&type=Massage+Parlor

I guess it's a hit or miss.

TrashMan
05-19-02, 22:19
Traveler, thanks for info. I was under the impression that FS outside of DC especially in NOVA was pretty difficult to come by in most AMP's and there are lots of rip off groups in NOVA that advertise as incalls but are really nothing more than HF houses.

DCSTUD, thanks for the post. Great sites with lots of good info.

Limited posts on them regarding Latin Palace, but they appear to agree essentially with negative comments I have seen so I will take a pass.

I have two incalls that I can use any time I want at $180, but you know what they say, variety is the spice of life! So, I am always looking for a new adventure that's better than the one before.

Mighty Spearsman
05-20-02, 13:28
I also saw the ad for the Latin Palace in the Washington Post last Friday. Drove by and discovered that it is in a fairly crappy neighborhood, at 233 Florida Avenue NW (need to put the NW in!). There is no parking on the street as Florida Ave. is one of the busy cross-town streets in DC. There is no Metro close by, and I would be very hesitant to recommend that someone walk from the Metro through that neighborhood unless they were well-armed or as muscular as The Rock. I ended up not going in, and based on the reviews already posted on the Internet, it sounds like I didn't miss much.

TrashMan
05-20-02, 16:05
Judging from the hot responses on even a hint of non-Asian pussy available in an incall or MP type situation, I vote that we band together and start our own business! Gotta be better than workin' ! Besides, it would be necessary to audition new talent for the house.

TrashMan
05-20-02, 16:18
Sometime early this summer, I am interested in putting together a Baltimore Block party for mongers where we do some serious Block club hopping as a group, picking up the cream of the young **** crop as we go and then head for a hotel or condo or the like with the girls and gangbang the hell out of them all night. Shared costs should be really reasonable. Any interest?

WordUp
05-22-02, 02:24
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HEY TRASHMAN,

.... I AM IN CINCINNATI, OHIO ... and I would be willing to visit during your Block Club Party. Sh-t like that NEVER could happen here.

EMAIL ME AR JUNKMAIL220@EMAIL.COM.

IF IT IS AROUND A TIME i CAN MAKE IT i WOULD LIKE TO VISIT.

The closest I have been is D.C., New York Ave., and the surrounding area. SEE my past post, and my post below !!!!


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TrashMan
05-28-02, 19:05
Invitation to local mongers: I had a partner in crime lined up for a 2 on 1 gangbang with a willing and eager participant, but he's had second thoughts and canceled.
Participants are 25 years old, 36DD-24-36 couple to choose from.
Serious interest only please! I will back channel email you details.
If you have any doubts, see Baltimore post from Incognito.

nutrafingod
05-29-02, 22:25
Trashman:

Send me an e-mail nutrafingod@hotmail.com.

Hargow20
05-30-02, 19:57
Street action???

Does anyone have any news on the street action. It used to be pretty good a few years back...

CT Hobbyist
06-01-02, 01:45
Originally posted by hargow20
Street action???

Does anyone have any news on the street action. It used to be pretty good a few years back...

Starting at 8pm on till midnight the girls seem to like hanging out over near the 12th - 14th street and M - Kstreet areas. A little later on, I have had decent luck up on New York ave near the old Hecht's building, and at some of the gas stations before the Taco Bell. If you can't find any there, there is a hourly place over on Rhode Island that if you can find, you might be able to find a SW around.

CT Hobbyist
06-01-02, 01:50
Originally posted by TrashMan
Sometime early this summer, I am interested in putting together a Baltimore Block party for mongers where we do some serious Block club hopping as a group, picking up the cream of the young **** crop as we go and then head for a hotel or condo or the like with the girls and gangbang the hell out of them all night. Shared costs should be really reasonable. Any interest?

Very interested. When would you be thinking about, and how can I contact you?

TrashMan
06-01-02, 15:11
CT,

Provide me an emeil address and I will back channel you. Otherwise, stay tuned for more info. A monger party on the block isn't exactly state secret, but after hours activities ( the real fun and entertainment ) will be limited to those we know or are comfortable with.
Probably July at this point, but if that changes will keep posted

dstruggle
06-04-02, 04:46
as a fellow hobbyist i suggest what is needed here is a location of a reputabale ho house in the dc area in baltimore 98%of the strippers get down for the "get down" so they are easier to locate
we need to put our heads together and come up with something maybe a call list of fs independent providers to meet all of our needs. the amps are getting rich off of us!!!!!!! and i'm getting tired of them anyhow. please post if you have any ideas on how we can organize and make our"thing" more effective

dc/md/nova unite

TrashMan
06-04-02, 10:06
dstruggle
Therein lies the problem because the minute there exists what you seek, LE becomes aware and would shut it down, possibly with one of us inside at the time ( very embarrassing at the least and downright ugly at the worst ), generally because large groups of horny guys are incapable of keeping anything secret for very long and this essentially public forum isn't very private obviously.
Sharing of basic information without too many details will go a long way to all of us getting what we want without spoiling it.
Too many drinking at a well soon dries it up.

JimmyDR
06-04-02, 10:33
To DStruggle,

We need to get the girls to start posting as well. They can set up e mails and phone numbers and we can all live one happy life. No more LE problems. Very easy. We can buy them beepers as well.

WordUp
06-04-02, 12:01
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JIMMYDR,

....... If some of these SW would use a little uncommon sense they could make a small fortune and avoid LE, IF they would just think like a business person. I meet an SW at (see my report in archives). She gave me her number, and I called her several times. After referring several WSG poster to her (she is $80-125 a whop), I told her that if I come to DC I will be looking forward to a few FREEBIES FROM HER. she said I would have to pay like everyone else. I talked her into a 50% discount ..... I say Bull to that. I had more than 40 WSG men referred to her. And I got no finders fee. If someone is guiding business to an SW, you better take care of them. She didn't I have STOPPED directing buz to her, and she even called to find out. I told her ..... she still thought she was right ..... NO REFERRENCE FROM ME. THINK about it 45 men @ $125 a whop equals $5625. SHE LOST THAT MONEY ....

WOMEN GET A BUSINESS SENSE ABOUT YOU AND LEARN TO KEEP GOOD CUSTOMERS HAPPY ... ESPECIALLY ONE WHO REFER OTHER PEOPLE TO YOU ..... THINK ABOUT THE LOSS OF "MONEY" !!!!!!!


So, even if you get them a pager, cell phone, or anything else, if they have NO business sense ..... it is useless !!!!


((((((( WORD )))))))


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dstruggle
06-05-02, 02:39
what i am saying is lets get together at least the independets that do full service and are repututable that are steady. with contact no#. do not post it here but maybe a yahoo club? for our area. I am open to ideas. where there is a will there is a way

TrashMan
06-06-02, 22:45
I have 4 regulars that are very reliable and clean ranging from tame to really wild that I would be happy to share contact info on but am reluctant to do so in this environment so your idea is a good one

Hobbit
06-07-02, 12:24
Originally posted by WORDUP
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I told her that if I come to DC I will be looking forward to a few FREEBIES FROM HER. she said I would have to pay like everyone else. I talked her into a 50% discount ..... I say Bull to that. I had more than 40 WSG men referred to her. And I got no finders fee. If someone is guiding business to an SW, you better take care of them. She didn't I have STOPPED directing buz to her, and she even called to find out. I told her ..... she still thought she was right ..... NO REFERRENCE FROM ME. THINK about it 45 men @ $125 a whop equals $5625. SHE LOST THAT MONEY ....

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Yeah, Wordup. You should make her pay you half for every referral you gave her. Whip her ass with a car antenna until she does. That's what any self-respecting pimp would do ;-) .

-hobbit

WordUp
06-07-02, 12:51
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HOBBIT YOU ARE RIGHT,

.... I was emailed by a lot of WSG brotha's and I gave them the information. I evewn called her for some of the very timid guys, and got them "HOOKED UP." In this way they got their feet wet, and do not end up spinning their wheel, and not getting any PooN.

....... This SW does not have a pimp that I could see when I was there, but that does not mean she did not have one. For that part, he should be making sure I am very happy, for I get him paid .... that is "if" a PimP exist.

....... I hope to be back to DC sometime this summer, or at last the fall. I like to stay in Silver Springs. The hotels there have some FINE ASS hotel SW working the bars. I did not get a chance to work them, the last time I was there. I only had 4 days to check out the district, and I had to go on the info from the old post of yearsssss ago. I found the SW on New York by accident by going too far the wrong way. And the SW at the Rhode Island hotel, she was just sitting there. So I ask how to contact her, while the guy paid for the room. I had to SW (1) black, (1) latino. But the hotel won't let two girls in a room at the sametime, so we were leaving to go to another hotel.

....... WELL, I will still help SW out as I travel, because it helps the folks on the WSG most. Especially the ones who do not always use uncommon sense, or are too timid, to come to an SW.

....... I AM JUST SO DAMN TRIED of these guys getting ripped off at these MP, and other place, by people who take there money, and give them NOTHING in return ..... THAT IS TOO F 'ed UP !!!!


Fornication Under Consent of the King ....... It !!!!!!!




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TrashMan
06-07-02, 19:50
Hobbit and Wordup,
You guys sure do talk some shit.

Hobbit
06-07-02, 21:31
Originally posted by WORDUP
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....... WELL, I will still help SW out as I travel, because it helps the folks on the WSG most. Especially the ones who do not always use uncommon sense, or are too timid, to come to an SW.




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Word, I hear you! I do the same thing when I travel. Always try to help the ladies and the guys on WSG. Helping others motivates me to do the basic research, which as you know can be very demanding and can require sacrifice.

Last winter I drove to DC for business and to do some selfless "research" on the street scene. About the time I got into the city the alternator on my truck started to die. Lights dimmed, electrical sytem began to shut down. It was about 10 p.m. and 20 degrees out and I'm thinking to myself, "What the fuck am I going to do now?"

I pulled off the beltway into College Park, MD and started looking for a gas station or a motel or some source of assistance before my engine died completely. And I'm lost. But what did my eyes see first - a streetwalker! So I did what any self-respecting gentleman would do. I set aside my personal problems to help the poor lady in distress.

The truck kept running long enough for me to enrich her some $30 and a load of my special vanilla pudding for sustenance during the cold night. This also took the edge off my dispostion, but I did it mostly for her, you understand.

Before the engine died I took her back to her place and found an auto parts store. I parked in their lot and slept in the truck until they opened the next morning. Bought a new alternator, installed it, and drove on my way, a satisfied and somewhat lucky hobbit.

True story. I guess I'm just addicted to helping others.

-hobbit

dstruggle
06-08-02, 03:40
this message is to trashman email me at dstruggle_2000@yahoo.com with what you have i have contacts in the baltimore area for fs independents. I will also email u the name of newly formed club

WordUp
06-08-02, 04:56
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.... ((((((( WORD UP ))))))) ....


HEY HOBBIT,

.... I truly understand .... It is hard for me to resist a decent SW wherever I go. As I said I was in DC the Fall of 2001, for 5 days, and had pnly been in DC, 4 years before that. So I forgot a lot of what I learned before, and could NOT remember, where I picked up the SW, the first time. And the old post were NOT as helpful as I would have liked. So I went to a strip club, bought a few guys some drinks and they told me where to find the SW. They told me New York Ave., but I was traveling the wrong part of NY ave.. By accident I went what I thought to be too far and "BOOM" I FOUND THEMMMMM !!!!!

At that point I was in SW Paradise. The Sw were so FINE I knew they had to be the police. Black, White, Orientals(which always STAY busy), Latino, tall, short, thick, thin, model quality and So-So.

..... Hobbit I am in Cincinnati, Ohio, and ain't SHYT here. LE has got this city on lock down!!!! NO SHYT, IT'S THE TRUTH. Even a half ass SW can ask for big money, becoz there is NO competition.

..... I will admit I was very, very surprised to see SW with pimps. I thought pimps were a thing of the past (70's) I had a pimp take kindly to me, and want to offer me some of his better girlz. He would call them up and have them meet me back at my hotel. I decline for "I TRUST NO DAMN ONE" !!!!

.... HOBBIT .... I can not affort to go to DC, for I woukd end up spending about $200 a day on SW's. I would be broke in NO Time.
This is why I have to go to Memphis, Detroit, Brooklyn Ill/East St.Louis, and else were to get good cheap quality (???) .

I want to go to DR with JimmyDR, near the end of July, but internation travel right now is a real pain in the AZZ.

WELL, CHECK OUT IS NOW .... GOT TO "GO" !!!!!!!




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TrashMan
06-08-02, 18:38
dstruggle,
Check your email for reply

pocketrocket
06-09-02, 15:59
TrashMan,

I'm coming into town this week and would love some info on your wild independents.

My experience is the same with the tradeoff of looks vs. permissiveness.

If I have to chose one, I'll go w/wildride.

Seems like the independents are a better way to go than AMP's.

I have some Dallas info and other locals to trade if you want.
Backchannel me at rocketman9us@hotmail.com.

Thanks

TrashMan
06-09-02, 16:07
Rocket
Check your email

TrashMan
06-11-02, 09:32
Booty,
Exactly when are you in town? Staying where? For long long/ From Where?
I can probably help you out.
Does race , age, etc. matter?

Mikey
06-11-02, 15:17
Bysshe - my e-mail is mikey1227@hotmail.com... I would really like to know where the AMP in Newington near Costco is... it is a convenient area for me, and good places in No Va are hard to find... Thanks



Originally posted by Bysshe
Freddy:

I agree that if it's a federal probe, they're not too concerned with arresting any hapless customer that might be in the midst of erotic excess when they bust in.

The danger to us hobbyists (ah, rationalization, thy name is euphemism) is from the DC Police, who are perfectly willing to pursue those sort of charges, and even more from News 4 cameras and the like, who would just love footage of people vainly trying to shield their faces as they scurry out of the raid.

Trashman:

You're right - there are definitely a number of hotties available, both at Royal and at other places. But we're in agreement too that a steday diet of Asian poontang, while certainly better than sitting at home yanking your pud to old Love Boat reruns, stil loses something in the long run.

In Virginia, there is at least one place that doesn't advertise, has all the clientele it needs, and features a very nice mixture of nationalities and races. I won't publicize the name or exact address; those already in the know will know it when I say it's near Costco in Newington. I would hate to give a roadmap to this place here and then find it busted.

The question -- is there a similar establishment in DC or Maryland?

- Bysshe

BootyLover
06-11-02, 16:00
Originally posted by TrashMan
Booty,
Exactly when are you in town? Staying where? For long long/ From Where?
I can probably help you out.
Does race , age, etc. matter?

I'll be in town for the june 22 weekend, i'llbe at the reston sheraton coming from nyc. I'll spend one or 2 nites. prefrences for black/latin (since they tend to have the best butts) as long as they are over 18 & freaky no problem. no big belly, big tits if possible. Greek/bi {i have a small tool}very appreciated. any clue on the costs?

18Wheels12Roses
06-12-02, 13:46
Well I finally did it. After years of GFE from Independents I finally broke down and searched for a SW. Going off your directions I found myself in the Zone. Had 2 "YOUNG" ladies walk up. The first was an 8 her friend 5. They looked to be around 18-20. The 8 was Black and her friend Philipino. $150 got me to their hotel in Arlington, a BJ from the Philipino, and FS from the 8. Now I have been doing the Hobby for a while now and this was my first SW action. The price was reasonable for a Double, but my God men; how can you take the SMELL? I couldn't even bust a nut!!!! Maybe I have been spoiled with the Independents giving GFE, and yes I have been burned by a few of them, but at least they didn't smell like the Fishing Docks during a Heat wave!!!!! I know not all the SW would be like this But these 2 ruined any hopes for the future. I'll just stick with the GFE's and the AMP's.

TrashMan
06-12-02, 19:21
Exactly my point for extolling the virtues of you get what you pay for. In your case though it seems like you paid high and received low. That sucks!
Maybe you shoulda made em take a bath first! Gross!

HummerKing
06-18-02, 17:30
I spent this last weekend working in DC. I didn't feel like leaving the hotel, so I called an outcall provider. I have had some bad experiences with outcall providers in the DC area in the past, so I was suprised. I called no limit escorts and asked for Kate. It was $220, no extra tip needed. She was about a 7, nice little body and tits. She was nice and unrushed, and most importantly-on time. Over all experience was a 9.

Any other suggestions for a good outcall provider?

Motorback
06-21-02, 04:20
Trashman....Thanks for looking out for the rest of us. Send me the info Motorback@yahoo.com
Just moved back to the area and would like to check out the action.

Thanxs

November
06-22-02, 18:20
Goddamn Trashman.....You are da Man!!!!!

joyman
06-23-02, 01:33
I can appreciate Trashman's tail. Can you hook up a fellow hobbyist?

Peace

Bysshe
06-24-02, 13:26
How about an update on the SW scene?

In years past, I've had luck on 12th street (a one-way street), 11th street, and 10th street (again one-way) between Mass Ave and Rhode Island Ave, plus the several cross streets in that giant rectangle area. Lately, though, it seems that the action has just died, or gotten truly hideously skanky.

Where else should I be driving?

Bysshe

SWCruiser
06-24-02, 18:48
Bysshe,

for what its worth, I've had some luck in the past along Rhode Island, but its really hit or miss. Gotta keep your eye out, especially at the bus stops. Also, about 3-4 miles out, just passed a 7-11 on the right, there's a strech where I've had some luck.

Getting tired of the hit or miss - trying to find one who I can set up a regular thing with, had one for a while but haven't seen her in a while. Would welcome any suggestions.

happy hunting.

TrashMan
06-24-02, 22:42
Tony,

Where are you from?

SLATBUSTER69
07-01-02, 21:13
wAS IN wASHINGTON LAST WEEK LOOOKING FOR sw. fOUND A LOVLY BLONDE, ABOUT 5'5", 125 LBS. sHE LOOKED GOOD AND AGREED TO FS FOR $100. TOOK HER BACK TO MY ROOM AND AFTER SHE UNDRESSED SHE WASHED HERSELF AND CAME TO BED TOTALLY NAKED. AFTER MOUNTING A CONDOM USING HER MOUTH SHE GAVE ME GOOD HEAD UNTIL I ASKED TO ROLL OVER. I THEN GAVE HER HEAD UNTIL SHE CAME. AFTER THIS I MOUNTED HER FOR A FULL HEAD OVER HEELS FUCK. SHE RESPONDED WELL AND COUNTERED MY EVERY THRUST. SHE WAS VERY RESPONSIVE AND APPEARED TO ENJOY EVERY STROKE. AFTER I FINISHED SHE AND I TALKED SOME BEFORE I RETURNED HER TO HER WALK. ALL IN ALL AN OVERALL 9 FOR LOOKS, RESPONSE, AND SERVICE. ONLY NEGATIVE IS SHE WOULDN'T DO ANAL. IF INTERESTED CALL SHANNON 803-546-0665

bfr74vz
07-02-02, 00:27
Anybody know what happened to Kia? she used to work the
downtown area. Petite blonde with a nice tight body.

Spider
07-05-02, 19:02
all,

can you send me some dc fs info (murphyck@netzero.net). just got to town from Tacoma (pretty good action there) and looking for some noon-time action.

thx
spider

Looking Around
07-05-02, 20:56
Originally posted by SLATBUSTER69
wAS IN wASHINGTON LAST WEEK LOOOKING FOR sw. fOUND A LOVLY BLONDE, ABOUT 5'5", 125 LBS. sHE LOOKED GOOD AND AGREED TO FS FOR $100. TOOK HER BACK TO MY ROOM AND AFTER SHE UNDRESSED SHE WASHED HERSELF AND CAME TO BED TOTALLY NAKED. AFTER MOUNTING A CONDOM USING HER MOUTH SHE GAVE ME GOOD HEAD UNTIL I ASKED TO ROLL OVER. I THEN GAVE HER HEAD UNTIL SHE CAME. AFTER THIS I MOUNTED HER FOR A FULL HEAD OVER HEELS FUCK. SHE RESPONDED WELL AND COUNTERED MY EVERY THRUST. SHE WAS VERY RESPONSIVE AND APPEARED TO ENJOY EVERY STROKE. AFTER I FINISHED SHE AND I TALKED SOME BEFORE I RETURNED HER TO HER WALK. ALL IN ALL AN OVERALL 9 FOR LOOKS, RESPONSE, AND SERVICE. ONLY NEGATIVE IS SHE WOULDN'T DO ANAL. IF INTERESTED CALL SHANNON 803-546-0665

You sure about that phone #? That's a south carolina area code...sure it isn't 703? Or something else?

Mighty Spearsman
08-06-02, 10:26
Dear traveler:

You're absolutely right, I probably did overpay by $20 in each case. But in both cases what I paid seemed to be the proper amount to pay. Let me add some info that I left out of my previous post:

For the Sun Spa, I had actually left only $100 out as the tip on the table at the beginning of the massage, as that is what I had paid in past visits to AMPs in DC. When the regular massage was finished and the soft, sexy part was starting, the masseuse Cindy pointed to the $100 bill on the table and said quietly "you want blow job, right?" to which I replied that I wanted everything. She made a rubbing motion with her fingers, so I got up, took $20 from my wallet and added it to the $100 on the table. In retrospect, I probably should have bargained with her to do everything for $100, but at that point my brain wasn't working. Sorry.

For ICM, my posting indicated that I went there first. Actually, I was in the building to go to Sun Spa on the 3rd floor, but to get to the 3rd floor you have to literally walk through part of ICM to get there. I had not been a paying customer at ICM since late 2000, once the original gang of hot co-eds from 1999 (Julia, Erica, etc.) had left and were replaced by some frigid eastern europeans who rated only 3/4 on a scale of 10. Then I had read about ICM changing its method of doing business, so I never went back after a wasted visit in February 2001 (where I walked in and out without staying). So I was bowled over when a knockout light-skinned black girl about 21 years old, 5'9" greeted me at the 2nd floor landing and literally dragged me in to show me the newly-decorated ICM, then I saw the other knockout new employee (dark, long legs, long straight black hair) and decided that it was worth staying. So I paid the same amount that I paid back in 1999 and 2000 - the $100 house fee plus $20 extra as tip because I had had such a good time. I suppose that I could have just paid the $100 without a tip but I would have felt cheap for doing so, especially since I plan on coming back here soon, and these ladies tend to have good memories.

I'm actually not sure about the tipping protocol at ICM. You're right that $120 for just a HJ seems like a lot. But you get a GFE with a non-Asian female who actually speaks fluent English, which seems to raise the price a bit in DC and elsewhere. And the other non-SW alternatives in DC seem even more expensive, based on what I read in the ads in City Paper. Plus for someone my age (almost 50), a visit with a gorgeous young lady at ICM is worth the extra tip. But I promise to try to keep the tipping under control in the future.

For Maxwell Madison and others:
These places are both right next to the "Sign of the Whale" restaurant at 1825 M Street, NW, one block west of 18th & Connecticut, NW, the same side of the street as two gentlemen's strip clubs, Joanna's and Camelot. There's a shish kebab restaurant on the first floor, then ICM is on the 2nd floor and Sun on the 3rd floor. Take the Metro RED line to either the "Farragut North" stop and walk a couple of blocks, or the "Dupont Circle" stop (don't take the Q Street exit, take the other exit) and walk south a couple of blocks. You could also get off at the "Farragut West" stop on the Blue/Orange line and walk up 18th Street for 3 blocks. Or take a Connecticut Avenue bus and get off at M Street and walk down the block. You could also drive and hopefully find curbside parking on M Street or 19th street.

VERY SAFE neighborhood, in an area where there are a lot of tourists and local professionals, also a lot of restaurants and bars (the bar "Rumours" is a hot meat market on Thursday evenings - you younger guys could probably get laid for free here). The strip clubs are upscale gentlemen's clubs frequented by professionals (lawyers, lobbyists, politicians, etc.) wearing suits. Good luck!

traveler
08-06-02, 17:58
Spearsman, you are so correct when you say american girls are more expensive. Sounds like ICM gave you what you were looking for and in that case, you have to be happy. Their "house fee" is high. Just like that Latino place on Florida St that I see advertised. But when you call them (the latino place) they say it is $75. Much less than their website states. Rkosonom, your tipping scale seems to be about right. I automatically lay down $100. If they start that rubbing their fingers together crap, I show my displeasure and they normally come off it. That is very unusual for an AMP in this area however. Did run into that in Dayton however. $100 is pretty standard in this area. They rarely refuse it. I give anywhere from $20 to $40 for a HJ. Don't get those often and I stay with the FS places. Anytime you see a "New" place open, you can just about bet your only going to get a HJ until they are there for a while. And forget this "I give you FS next time" The last time that was played on me, I just smiled and said, "I give you tip next time then". Traveler

TrashMan
08-14-02, 07:59
Medude,

Where are you coming in to DC from?
When will you be here?
Where (roughly ) will you be staying?
What kind of girl are you looking for?
Armed with answers, I can make a few recommendations out of my black book that would fit your situation. Be glad to help. I travel a lot as well and hate getting to a new city and no know the landscape at all and end up at the mercy of the yellow pages roulette routine. Give me an email to send you specific info or else I will just post sufficient generalized info here to lead you in the right direction.

Spider - Simone is out of business for a while according to the redhead - sorry

PinkSalad
09-17-02, 19:06
Sup.

I'm a college student in the DC area. Never been with a hooker, but I really need some ass. Any suggestions?

I don't have a car, do u think that'd be a problem?

I'll appreciate any tips or suggestions u can give me.

thnx.

Hank
09-17-02, 22:47
Medude (anyone for that matter) - there are plenty of good place to get suggestions for a quality provider. TBD - the big doggie board has a good system for rating, as does *** - The Erotic Review. *** has been particularly good, because you can do a search by average scores and price ranges.

From my experience, I had one good experience with Brittany Blaze a while back for $$$, but the same has not been corroborated of late. As always, YMMV.

RomanHans
09-19-02, 16:13
PinkSalad:

One issue to be careful about is age discrimination by the more "exclusive" escorts advertising on the Web--I know that some escorts categorically refuse to service anyone under the age of about 30. You're less likely to run into this with agencies or streetwalkers, but those services come with their own special risks.

In any case, the '*********' site mentioned below has a very good guide for 'newbies' who have supposedly never paid for sex before.

Roman

SWCruiser
09-19-02, 18:38
Went to the AMP near Dupont the other day. Went through the usual routine with mamasan, was led into a room to wait. When the door opened and my girl came in, man! was I floored! "Shannon" is young (early 20's?) with at least an 8 face and a 9.99 bod! I'd guess about 105, tight ass, nice firm b cup? She was kind of timid - but when I offered the 'tip', she went right to work! To be honest, I'm not really all that sure about her technique, cause when she got on top to start jerking on me, her flawless (and, totally unaugmented) bod was so hot I just about blew it right there. Very sweet, VERY HOT!

Chnadler Bong
09-21-02, 02:26
All I can say is, "what the hell". Went to Happiness today, paid the $60, mamasan sent in a girl... Cute, though not really provocative or necessarily stunning. During the table shower, she kept her eyes averted from my private areas, when it came time to scrub them, she motioned for me to do it myself. And then back in the room it was just straight massage, nothing else whatsoever...she kept the towel covering my privates, would not touch me there, stayed fully clothed, etc. When I asked her if this would be "a full service massage", she played dumb at first, then remarked that she does massage, and besides she's barely just started. It wasn't really like I could back out at that point anyway, so I just went with it. 15-20 minutes pass and nothing happens. I wonder aloud if she will be removing her clothes at all, and she becomes quite offended, "what, what kind of a question is that? So many people ask me that, I'm sick and tired. People think every place is the same, but it's not, maybe I could do that kind of work and make more money, but I would get in trouble", etc etc etc. So I thought, well, maybe this place isn't really FS, she was dressed quite modestly in fact, she seemed genuinely unprepared to do anything else, if not truly surprised at my prodding.

In the hallway though I passed by another girl who was a real knockout, tiny bikini top, fake boobs, great body, the whole deal... I have to say if this other girl gave the same services, that would be the ultimate tease.

Both the mamasan and the girl remarked that I looked young, and while I'm in my 30's, I realize I do have something of a young face. This didn't seem the reason at the time, and I've never had any trouble getting FS at the AMP's in DC before. I never had to volunteer the tip up front either, they'd always ask for it. It's right by Royal, this place - is it possible they're still spooked by the bust which I hear happened this May?

When I arrived home on a lark I decided to call the place and inquire as to whether they offered full service, mamasan gave the cloak and dagger stuff about not being able to talk about that over the phone, but to come in and she'd set me up with a pretty girl and I'd go home happy. So either I was a special case there today or she was scamming me on the phone. I don't want to blow $60 for another relaxing deep muscle massage, has anyone tried this place, or are a lot of DC places not doing FS right now for some reason? or is it really the age thing -- I'd like to emphasize, in many many times, it's never happened to me before...

Thanks..

fantasyzfreddy
09-23-02, 10:56
As some of you realize, I tend to follow the goings on in the escort industry in the Washington DC metro area. I understand that most of you hardcore massage parlor/street walker groupies view any call girls, escorts, upscale pay per view services with disgust and a waste of money. But I was browsing around on Eros DC today and came up with a few gems with possible interest.

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Tara

Tara-boo - a redbone of a different kind. Complete and ready for anything you can dish out.

A pierced tongue and a 34C-25-36 frame can do no wrong. Let her come and show you how it's done!

RATES:
Incall - $75 / hour, Outcall - $100 / hour.
Double sessions with DIAMOND:
Incall - $150 / hour, Outcall - $200 / hour.

Serving the DC Metro-Area 24/7 including all holidays.

Tara
202 276-8420

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There isn't direct link to her ad. Hmmm... Is the escort industry finally undergoing some competition from new girls coming in with lower than average prices? Or is this just another scam operation to get you in the door and hit you up for more money. The pic with the ad does sort of look like the type of girl who may have previously worked as a sw crack *****. Could traditional SW fearing the increased LE presence be migrating to the internet superhighway?

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Oh... And I thought this other one was noteworthy...

Budget Escorts

Hmmm... Just what you might as is their wonderfully cheap price for FS? ... $200 ... Dang! Now that is what a usual run of the mill online escort charges isn't it?

decker
09-23-02, 22:23
Has anyone checked out the place on L St called Clix. When I was here little over a year ago that was an ok place to meet girls. Anyone have any info at all? Thanks.

Doombringer321
09-23-02, 23:30
I'm from miami and might travel north next month and figure I
stop by washington to check out the usual historical sites an go trough the tours and all that but I figure I do some mongering on the side, however is been two years since I've been there and I was just wondering has the war on terrorism affected the carnal pursuit of happines around our capitol. I remember there being plenty of pimps with "workers" and stuff I wonder if ti's the same and how has the new enviroment changed. Help please!!!!

calvin
09-24-02, 09:48
Stay away from escorts totally, agency and independent. They're both rip-off's. I made an appointment with an independent. When I got to the hotel, I noticed that the girl I saw wasn't the same girl who I saw online, she said that they switched phones. Gave her $220 anyway, cause I felt horny and when we were both on bed, she didn't allow any kissing. When I asked for sex, she said "that's extra." When I spoke to her on phone, she made it clear that she's "full service." But "full service did not include sex," she said. Man, I was mad.

The lesson here is, go to amp's like Downtown, cause you know exactly what you'll get when you go there, no extra fee bullsh*t talk. And "full service" does not include sex.

These escorts just want your money and they don't really care if your satisfied or not, cause there's many more horny suckers out there willing to risk lossing their money and evening feeling worse after they rip you off.

TrashMan
09-24-02, 12:07
actually, not all the escort services are rip offs. you're right about amp's in dc being a fairly sure bet, but not always judging from a recent post here. personally, i have never been disappointed at a dc amp, but have had rip off experiences in va almost always although, again, judging from posts there are exceptions to that as well. maryland has proven to be 50/50 as far as rip offs go and i speak from experience as well as posts here also.
dc seems to be the most consistent.
most or many of the yellow pages escort services are rip offs. i do not suggest using them.
i think many of the internet escorts are rip offs as well but some are definitely legit. romeo3 i can vouch for. i have seen posts from guys having luck on dc exotics and eros and i have met girls on the baltimore block who are not rip offs and do use those services to advertise. i think it's the luck of the draw.
i have had consistent and best results from the ads in city paper.
i steer away from va or md based girls and only patronize dc based girls. i have found them to be 50/50 white/black mixed with some pigs, but mostly pretty good 7's and 8's of both races with a few latinos as well. i usually stay away from the agencies and concentrate on the independents who sometimes have formed a small group of girls that sot of work together. i have had wild times with some including bbbjtc and greek. i have observed that the ads seem to turn over weekly with new girls. i usually call and inquire as to looks, body, rates, french lessons without translator, and greek speech. i have found greek speaking girls make up no more than 10-15% while bbbj is 20-25%. the majority, especially the younger ones use a cover for everything so inquire ( very discretely ) up front if this is important to you. do not ask about **** girls! do not ask about unprotected main events! that's just dumb.
most places they have are in not so great areas so be aware of what's going on around you. i have had no problems, but i exercise some caution. if it looks too scarey or feels wrong, pass on it. same with the girls on the phone...if you don't get good vibes, cross her off the list and move on. your intuition is usually correct the first time especially if you think with your big head.
i like to get a little buzz on before so i have a few belts first, but not so much that it impairs my driving or judgement. ie, don't go drunk.

calvin
09-24-02, 12:52
Trashman, good detailed info. And he's probably correct about not all escorts being a rip-off. But for my money, I would rather go for the sure thing and go to Downtown or Ginza. These two amp's I've been to and recieved exactly what I knew I would be getting. I've never been to amp's in VA or MD and I plan not to, since I've heard some mixed stories about those amps. I wouldn't want to risk it anymore, once was enough.

Maxwell
09-24-02, 22:41
fantasyfreddy and anybody else interested,

I saw the lady Tara-boo in eros ad that freddy copied below. I had a good time and got what I expected. She's working with at least one other person, besides Diamond who sets up the thing, but the fee I got was exactly as posted. As to the speculation about her former activities, I can't say yea or nay to that. She smokes. And talks likes she been hanging out with inner city black people for most of her life. I hope I don't offend anyone with that comment, as I am black myself. However none of that bothered me. She was nice, she delivered and she asked me to come back. Of course I know why, the $$. But that's what any good worker in the service industry does. And there was no bait and switch for an extra tip for the real services, as I've come across with other agencies. Hopefully her and her associates know what they are doing and hang around for a while.

I saw that budget escort thing, (laugh), yeah right, budget.

D5570
09-25-02, 17:22
Used to be that you could find good SW around 14th NW. Is that still the case? How bout the surrounding areas? Also heard a little bout Alexandria?Any info.

kraft22
09-25-02, 18:56
Trashman,

I saw your earlier post on the citypaper.
I have called several of the ads I have seen there for Swedish massage in N. VA.
I honestly didn't know what to make of it from talking to the ladies on the phone. The three I called all sounded like all that was going on was a straight massage for $60 - $80 per hour.
I didn't want to out right say I was looking for a nude massage or anything extra...they probably wouldn't respond to that anyway.
There were other ads listed that said "non-sexual" massage so I didn't bother to even call those.

Any advice on these? Are most of these ads for girls who may be willing to do more like an AMP?
I am really not looking for FS. Mainly interested in getting a decent full body nude massage where I get to play with the lady and get a nice HJ (or possibly a CBJ).

I had an awesome experience last year while traveling for work in the Silicon Valley. Called this ad for discreet massage. Showed up to a small, clean Apt, was greeted by a mid 30's decent looking Asain lady who gave me an incredible massage. Half way through, she asked me if she could get undressed and proceeded to massage my front while I played with her until she gave me a nice release.
It was awesome. She quoted $70/Hr on phone when I set up the appt. She only asked for an additional $30 when we were finished. Best $100 I ever spent.
I have never been able to find anything to beat that again.

Still looking though..... :-)

WiseBorn
09-26-02, 21:56
Originally posted by fantasyzfreddy
As some of you realize, I tend to follow the goings on in the escort industry in the Washington DC metro area. I understand that most of you hardcore massage parlor/street walker groupies view any call girls, escorts, upscale pay per view services with disgust and a waste of money. But I was browsing around on Eros DC today and came up with a few gems with possible interest.

-------------------------------
Tara

Tara-boo - a redbone of a different kind. Complete and ready for anything you can dish out.

A pierced tongue and a 34C-25-36 frame can do no wrong. Let her come and show you how it's done!

RATES:
Incall - $75 / hour, Outcall - $100 / hour.
Double sessions with DIAMOND:
Incall - $150 / hour, Outcall - $200 / hour.

Serving the DC Metro-Area 24/7 including all holidays.

Tara
202 276-8420

---------------------------------

There isn't direct link to her ad. Hmmm... Is the escort industry finally undergoing some competition from new girls coming in with lower than average prices? Or is this just another scam operation to get you in the door and hit you up for more money. The pic with the ad does sort of look like the type of girl who may have previously worked as a sw crack *****. Could traditional SW fearing the increased LE presence be migrating to the internet superhighway?

------------------------------------

Oh... And I thought this other one was noteworthy...

Budget Escorts

Hmmm... Just what you might as is their wonderfully cheap price for FS? ... $200 ... Dang! Now that is what a usual run of the mill online escort charges isn't it?

a lot of these girls are streetwalkers Diamond and Tara are wellknown

WiseBorn
09-26-02, 22:32
Originally posted by Doombringer321
I'm from miami and might travel north next month and figure I
stop by washington to check out the usual historical sites an go trough the tours and all that but I figure I do some mongering on the side, however is been two years since I've been there and I was just wondering has the war on terrorism affected the carnal pursuit of happines around our capitol. I remember there being plenty of pimps with "workers" and stuff I wonder if ti's the same and how has the new enviroment changed. Help please!!!!

try New York avenue

PinkSalad
09-28-02, 13:17
I've researched a past post on this board, and all ot escort websites and I think i'm ready to conctact a service and set up an appiontment.

just one question.

How do are u supposed to start the phone converstation or what do u put in the subject line of your e-mail?

i know it seems silly and a really "rookyish" question, but i'd just like to know the normal protocal so i'm not to awkward

PinkSalad
09-28-02, 13:38
also does anyone know of incalls with in a reasonable distance of 34th and O street?

WiseBorn
09-28-02, 14:08
Originally posted by PinkSalad
I've researched a past post on this board, and all ot escort websites and I think i'm ready to conctact a service and set up an appiontment.

just one question.

How do are u supposed to start the phone converstation or what do u put in the subject line of your e-mail?

i know it seems silly and a really "rookyish" question, but i'd just like to know the normal protocal so i'm not to awkward
try appointment just act as though it was a normal buissness meeting over dinner say that you're new and they'll take care of you

WiseBorn
09-28-02, 17:11
Originally posted by D5570
Used to be that you could find good SW around 14th NW. Is that still the case? How bout the surrounding areas? Also heard a little bout Alexandria?Any info.

try over by Glebe road be careful

importer
09-28-02, 19:36
To: D5570

There is still plenty of action on the streets of DC. They seem to move to different locations alot. The last few weks I have seen plenty of action on L and K between 13th and 16th, but plenty LE crusin' around so watch out. Also drive down K between North Capitol and 6th. There might be TS's over there. Drive up 7th it turns into Georgia there were a few out last week there. Also go up 12th and 13th. I saw some up there. Mostly crackheads though. Check NY AVe by the texaco. The best is downtown by L and K after midnight on the weekends; lots of good looking girls black, white, latino, I saw a nice young brunette out there last week wearing an outfit that revealed almost everthing. Did not pick her up though because the fuzz had seen me circle the block a couple times. I hope I see her out there again. What is the going rate for a nice looking SW in DC theese days?

fantasyzfreddy
09-29-02, 20:08
Email etiquette:

When writing an email to an escort/escort agency for the first time start out by explaining in the subject where you saw their ad posted online or in what magazine... i.e. "i saw your ad on eros dc". You might want to word your email in lower case letters, generally it makes you seem less like a cop and more like the inexperienced hobbyist you are.

Escorts receiving email feelers to services they may or may not provide usually prefer you start out with a "Hi, my name is 'anonomous name you made up and won't forget easily'. I live in 'such and such general area close to, yet not exactly where you live'. I am interested in an 'incall (their location) or outcall (your location) appointment, for an 'hour or two' 'tonight, this afternoon, tommorow (escorts usually don't make anymore advance appointments than a day) or at such and such time'. I want a 'private viewing (strip tease with light touching), massage (full body massage).

[These two options are good safety requests as they are perfectly legal services. In the course of the appointment you may ask casually if the lady provides extras, or additional services for a tip. Most of the time the lady will do something to indicate she is open to additional services. It is completely up to you at this point if you want to ask for FS outright in the email... I personally would not recommend it on the initial email.]

What would your rates be for your time and companionship?

Thanks,
'Again your anonmous name'

[REMEMBER to use your anonmous made up name in future phone conversations & in person, and don't try to change it later with the escort cause she will get freaked out by it. It is perfectly understandable that everybody is using fake names, but we don't have to dwell on it. Accomplish the mission and laugh about it later on your own time.]

Typically an escort won't spend more than two emails on a prospective client, so keep it brief then move to the phone and public meeting. When replying, do include your previous email body and Re: tags in the subject.

DON'T bring a printed copy of any of your emails to the escort when you meet her (if busted, they will search you and use what is in your pockets against you). Write down all directions etc on some slip of torn off paper that can be easily tossed out the window or dropped on the ground. Especially don't recommend you get busted with things you printed out from this website. Read it, memorize it.

DON'T send any escort a picture of yourself. This isn't a dating game. She may claim that she needs to verify your identity... yaddy, yaddy, yaddy... Use your own discretion. If it smells funny, then tell the little soldier to put a lid on it and go back into the bunker for another time.

fantasyzfreddy
09-29-02, 20:51
More...

IF you use a made up name then get an outcall appointment to a hotel room you paid for, the escort WILL call the hotel to verify that you actually have that room prior to the appointment. She will question the reason why you are using the name John Smith in your email messages, yet registered for the hotel room as Tony Maggianos. If worried about it, just come clean and mention that you have the room under another name and this is what it is. Escorts call hotels for a number of reasons usually cause they believe that they can get better directions from the hotel staff than from you.

Escorts are usually late when coming to your location. Between 5 minutes and 45 minutes. Take a shower before they arrive. Turn on the outside house lights and some inside the house. Prep the room you will be using, clean sheets/pillows etc. Lock up the dog and/or cat.

Escorts who work as a group of independents or with an agency often will describe some girl over the phone and the person you actually meet will be vastly different because your young lady supposedly had car troubles on her way out to your location. Double verify before handing over any fees that she is there for a massage or private viewing. You don't want to get up to the room after handing over the money, strip naked to be informed that suddenly she doesn't do massages. Don't be afraid to turn her away without paying for a service if you do not receive what you thought you were going to receive. They might try to exhort some sort of cancellation fee from you.

Be advised that after calling and talking to many different places that may have turned you down or been unappealing in some way, suddenly one calls back with an unbelievable availablility. There are scam operations which steal escort business from them and might rip you off in the process.

DO NOT GET FLUSTERED OR BULLIED INTO REQUESTING AN ILLEGAL SERVICE BY AN ESCORT. This is a very common rip off manuver of which many of us have been screwed many, many times. They get you to outright request sex for cash then tell that is illegal and they are calling the police unless you let them leave. Usually after they walked in the door with their hand out for the fee, then went into the bathroom to call their driver/bodyguard/pimp on their cell phone. Then coming out to use your phone and checking your driver's license while calling their agency. Remember you always have the right to ask them to leave if you feel that they aren't picking up your subtle signals that you want FS. Frankly if they are legitmate escorts they will be sending you obvious signals to respond to.

Obvious signals to look out for:

Escorts will say and do many different little things to indicate to you that they are ready to commence a FS activity by which money will be provided to them.

1) Why don't you get comfortable? KEYWORD: Comfortable.
[ I.E. Take off all your clothes and lie down on the bed. Preferably with a condom on. ]

2) Do you have a condom?
[ I.E. See above number 1. ]

Most often I have found that taking the intiative is often the best way to cut through all the bullshit. Meet the escort wearing a loose pair of shorts and a t-shirt or a bathrobe and nothing else. When she enters the room remove your clothes or robe and commence putting on a condom. To break the silence ask her if she would like to use the bathroom before you begin. Lie down on the bed. Place the fee in an envelope with the flap open showing the cash on the bedside table. During this time do not say anything about what you want, merely assume that the escort is intelligent enough to realize that if you are naked and wearing a condom that you are a serious client. She will have no option but to realize that no cop in his right mind would undress and lie down on the bed naked to the world and his buddies smoking in the next room watching on the video camera. Hopefully she will take a cue from your behavior and silently collect the fee and start removing her clothes as well. NOTE: I have not had the opportunity to test this method with a lady cop yet so I do not know how a lady cop would handle this silent behavior. I believe that a lady cop might raise some objection to your behavior and attempt to leave the room because she isn't that type of girl. I don't believe she can arrest you at this point for exposing yourself to her as she willingly came into your room. A lady cop may try to ask you what you are doing and why you are naked, at which point putting your clothes back on and showing her the door while apologizing for the misunderstanding would probably be best. Do not attempt to rationalize your behavior, do not discuss the cash lying on the table. Apologize repeatedly and show the lady out. Case closed.

fantasyzfreddy
09-30-02, 10:40
A few more brief remarks...

When you send an email inquiry to an escort allow for a reasonable time period for them to respond. This ladies don't spend as much time as you or I spend online. As you might imagine if they are seriously involved in this industry as their primary source of income, they don't have the time to be on their computer scoring new customers. Frankly if you get the impression that a lady you are emailing spends a great deal of time online, then you might also assume that she doesn't have any customers or she is a he (her pimp/boyfriend/scam artist) or a first timer looking for her inspiration to break into the industry. I have experienced reasonable time periods of as much as two days later to a week and a half later. So to expediate matters you may want to contact several at once. Be very careful about to which escort you are sending what info or requests, don't mix them up. Pre-write a form style email with general info that applies to all situations. You will receive back several emails from other email addresses than the ones you sent them to. Some escorts are very inexperienced online and are largely untrusting of this whole online advertising their services thing. With good reason too...

You may assume that they are scoring new customers left and right, but actually they may have received one or two replies then nothing then one then five etc.

Also keep in mind the fact that you may be reading this ad for the first time and think it sounds really good, but this ad was posted two years ago... The escort may not be in the business anymore and may become angry if you attempt to contact her in her new life.

Remember this is a business to the escorts. Don't be thinking you are going to be having some sort of quasi-Richard Gere in Pretty Woman style thing. These woman may pretend to think you are the hottest and sexiest man on two legs, but this doesn't mean they want to give up the lifestyle of recieving $200 every two or three hours a day. Heck, make the effort to score free nookie on the side, but don't get all hopeful if she does accept your cell phone number and promises to call you in a day or two. I have had one or two minor successes with escorts and dancers, and one attempted blackmail experience.

WiseBorn
10-03-02, 21:13
Originally posted by importer
To: D5570

There is still plenty of action on the streets of DC. They seem to move to different locations alot. The last few weks I have seen plenty of action on L and K between 13th and 16th, but plenty LE crusin' around so watch out. Also drive down K between North Capitol and 6th. There might be TS's over there. Drive up 7th it turns into Georgia there were a few out last week there. Also go up 12th and 13th. I saw some up there. Mostly crackheads though. Check NY AVe by the texaco. The best is downtown by L and K after midnight on the weekends; lots of good looking girls black, white, latino, I saw a nice young brunette out there last week wearing an outfit that revealed almost everthing. Did not pick her up though because the fuzz had seen me circle the block a couple times. I hope I see her out there again. What is the going rate for a nice looking SW in DC theese days?

about 100

looking4fun
10-03-02, 21:30
I'm in Manassass for a while and looking for some fun.
Any suggestions for this area <?>

I'm not sure the best route, SW or delivery?

I would prefer a SW, since it's better (to me at least) finding that right one, rather than the luck of a draw when one shows up at my room.

Suggestions or ideas are appreciated!

... looking4fun ...

PinkSalad
10-04-02, 18:56
i've seen a couple post giving the number and rates for Tara and Diamond, but has anyone actully purchased their services, and can either recommend or critic them for the rest of the board?

fantasyzfreddy
10-04-02, 23:41
So you want a tip on a sure thing...

Hmmm... Okay. Here is one I can guarantee FS. But if she is busted next week, we all will know. She has an incall location in Springfield, VA. About $200/hr. 30s - 40s years old.

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Collette
Fun, playful naughty and very personable. A tall, ultra busty, sexy, seductive, stunning, classy raven-haired beauty!

5'8", 135 lbs, 36D-26-36, burgundy / black hair, fair skin and gorgeous green eyes.

Northern Virginia

7am - 9pm

Collette
703 922-9106

Collette is not associated with an agency, so when you call her you speak directly to her.

Collette is very highly liked by everyone who sees her.

Independent Individual, not associated with any agency!

http://www.eros-dc.com/files/dc-collette2.htm

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alphafield
10-05-02, 01:42
Hey guys.

Longtime reader/contributor on the Chicago board. Will be in DC in a few weeks, so I thought I better start doing some up-to-date research! Haven't been to DC for a couple years. Used to cruise downtown 12th and K. Anyway, will be staying with a friend in DuPont Circle and would like to sample the DC AMPs. Looking to spend $100 to $150 total. Asian or European girls.

If anyone can recommend one or two spots, it would be greatly appreciated.

email if you prefer (aphafield@hotmail.com)

Thanks in advance, and would give you any Chicago info I have....

-Af-

fantasyzfreddy
10-06-02, 00:10
Downtown on Vermont Ave. $160 for a suck and a fuck... Oh and of course the table shower & massage as well.

Hammerin
10-06-02, 14:09
I visited Tara at her & Diamond's incall location in a nice hotel at Largo, MD about 10 days ago & was pleasantly surprised, especially for the value of the service received for the $$ spent. I received very good FS from Tara, a 21 yo thin white girl with a nice face & very friendly attitude, while Diamond, her 21 yo little overweight black girlfriend with a cute face stayed in the room. She was also very friendly & I will give her a try next time.

They told me that they will be moving around to different locations throughout the metro DC area.

alphafield
10-08-02, 01:22
Hey Freddy, could you goive me a little more info so I can find the place on Vermont? Thanks!

(Name, phone # or maybe an address or at least some landmarks)

Thanks again

-Af-

WiseBorn
10-08-02, 17:41
Originally posted by Hammerin
I visited Tara at her & Diamond's incall location in a nice hotel at Largo, MD about 10 days ago & was pleasantly surprised, especially for the value of the service received for the $$ spent. I received very good FS from Tara, a 21 yo thin white girl with a nice face & very friendly attitude, while Diamond, her 21 yo little overweight black girlfriend with a cute face stayed in the room. She was also very friendly & I will give her a try next time.

They told me that they will be moving around to different locations throughout the metro DC area.

they can also be found most nights on upper R.I. avenue

WiseBorn
10-08-02, 17:50
has anybody ever had an appointment with Sonic of http://www.sexySonic.com/ ?

fantasyzfreddy
10-09-02, 12:59
Downtown is listed in the massage parlor section on the back of the Sports section in the Washington Post. Phone number & street address.

There is an asian restaurant on the ground floor. Downtown is on the top floor (3rd floor??), just go up the stairs till you reach the apartment door at the top and ring the doorbell. From the outside of the building you may see an OPEN neon sign in a third floor window.

The regular massage and table shower/sauna experience goes for $60. I have always started out by requested a $150 (price at the time) session. They always nod and say something pertaining to "oh the suck and fuck?". I am sure now the price is $160.

I have never tried the "laying $100 down next to the massage table" thing.

When they let you in there is a little sitting area ahead of you. The kitchen or "bargaining/refreshment room" is on the right through a doorway. They might offer you something to drink, soda or beer... You may want to accept as it is polite. Further up the hallway on the right are two table shower rooms, on the left the sauna, then all the way down on the right side are the massage rooms.

Remember to be respectful and polite at all times. These are ladies, not street walkers. They will not treat you very well if you attempt to be aggressive and violent. This is not a place for you to act out a fantasy.

The session will go as follows:

You may or may not have a lady approach you in the waiting room and ask if you want her to be your massuese. You could at this point request another lady, I would recommend simply accepting this lady to expediate matters. After money changes hands you will be led into a massage room and asked to disrobe and put on a towel or robe they leave for you. Put your clothes on the chair or in a locker, if available. Sit on the table and wait patiently for your massuese to come back. She may take you first to the sauna, this is up to you. If not you will be led down the hallway to the table shower room. Hang your towel up or give it to the lady. Lie face down on the table, hands down at your sides. She will scrub you down while talking conversationally to you. Be open and friendly. She will ask you to turn over. She may strip down at this point. She will scrub off your front side. She may ask you something about "is there any part of your body that you don't want me to touch or rub?". You answer is NO. When she is handling your equipment during the table shower it might be advisable to get the guy up and saluting. This gives the impression to her that you are interested in something more. Smile and appear friendly to her. She will rinse you off and towel you down. Follow her back to your massage room. Take off the towel and lie face down on the table. You will get a back massage clothed or unclothed, with oil or with lotion. Turn over for a chest and front massage. You may want to casually attempt to stroke her thighs, breasts etc. She will move down to the equipment eventually, put on the plastic wrap for the CBJ and then mount up. You can attempt to get her on the bottom. Now here is a small point of friction that I have found... I want to kiss and touch their breasts, massueses think this is funny "you want to play". They view it as a time waster. They want you to cum as soon as possible and leave, in fact they will get very impatient if you take a long time. You may get asked to leave if you take a long time and haven't finished yet. Thank your massuese on your way out the door, tip her as appropriate.

Mighty Spearsman
10-09-02, 14:03
1) I live in CT but will be in DC next week for several days. Back in early August I wrote a post here on this board about a visit I had made to ICM on M Street, NW between 18th and 19th. I asked for feedback from other WSG posters about their visits to ICM, but nothing's been posted since. Could any of you report on this place? Surely some of you have been here recently. I'm thinking of checking it out again next week. Thanks!

2) Dear fantasyzfreddy: Thanks for your post about "Downtown." I went there once in mid-afternoon when they first opened several years ago and did not like the (one) lady on duty so I left. Question: is the $150 that you referred to a tip on top of the $60 entrance/massage fee (meaning $210 total)? or is it $150 total (meaning $60 entrance/massage fee plus $90 tip)?

3) Dear wiseborn: I checked out the sexySonic website that you asked about and could not find any contact info - it looks like just another pay-for-porn site. Other than that, I've never heard of her.

WiseBorn
10-09-02, 21:05
Originally posted by Mighty Spearsman
1) I live in CT but will be in DC next week for several days. Back in early August I wrote a post here on this board about a visit I had made to ICM on M Street, NW between 18th and 19th. I asked for feedback from other WSG posters about their visits to ICM, but nothing's been posted since. Could any of you report on this place? Surely some of you have been here recently. I'm thinking of checking it out again next week. Thanks!

2) Dear fantasyzfreddy: Thanks for your post about "Downtown." I went there once in mid-afternoon when they first opened several years ago and did not like the (one) lady on duty so I left. Question: is the $150 that you referred to a tip on top of the $60 entrance/massage fee (meaning $210 total)? or is it $150 total (meaning $60 entrance/massage fee plus $90 tip)?

3) Dear wiseborn: I checked out the sexySonic website that you asked about and could not find any contact info - it looks like just another pay-for-porn site. Other than that, I've never heard of her.

thanks for the response Spearsman I beleive that ICM is still open but I have never been there. I have been to the sun spa only offered a HJ but heard that now FS is offered

alphafield
10-10-02, 00:13
Thank freddy. sound slike the usual AMP protocol. Looking forward to it!

I'll check the Post for other places too....sounds like it's your version of the Chicago Sun-Times sports section, where they run about 20 AMP ads a day.

-Af-

Beamish
10-10-02, 00:20
Whats up D.C. I am Beamish from the Boston board. I was in D.C. about three months ago and managed to squeeze in a little cruisin. I have a couple of questions and would love to hear responses.

1. What is the deal with the road that leads from D.C. out to where RFK stadium used to be? I saw a whole bunch of SW out there near a Days Inn. I swung in and drove down some sketchy little dead end side street to turn around and get back on the main road. I saw one hot SW there but I ended up getting some other girl who was not as hot. I forget her name now.

2. How sketchy is it REALLY to cruise around D.C. Has anyone had experience with LE or some punk messin with you?

3. What are average prices for a BJ or FS?

Any responses would be appreciated. I will be coming throiugh D.C. in about two months so if anyone has any SW suggestions please feel free to post and I will read.

WiseBorn
10-10-02, 20:13
Originally posted by Beamish
Whats up D.C. I am Beamish from the Boston board. I was in D.C. about three months ago and managed to squeeze in a little cruisin. I have a couple of questions and would love to hear responses.

1. What is the deal with the road that leads from D.C. out to where RFK stadium used to be? I saw a whole bunch of SW out there near a Days Inn. I swung in and drove down some sketchy little dead end side street to turn around and get back on the main road. I saw one hot SW there but I ended up getting some other girl who was not as hot. I forget her name now.

2. How sketchy is it REALLY to cruise around D.C. Has anyone had experience with LE or some punk messin with you?

3. What are average prices for a BJ or FS?

Any responses would be appreciated. I will be coming throiugh D.C. in about two months so if anyone has any SW suggestions please feel free to post and I will read.

I'm not sure where you were but SW prices are between 80-100 right now the main one's are of NY Ave. and L street Downtown

fantasyzfreddy
10-11-02, 01:53
At the time (a year and a half ago) $150 was the total price for the massage/table shower/FS experience. Perhaps at the time, the massage/table shower price alone was $50 and the additional FS was $100. We didn't break it down, you went in said you wanted a $150 session, they said something pretaining to "sucky and fucky" and you got exactly that.

I believe now, as I have read on this board that the price is $60 for a standard massage/table shower, then an additional $100 for FS, negotiated later at the table.

I cannot say what would happen if you went in and asked for a $150 session. They may laugh at you. Obviously the price has been raised to $160. Of course the individual massuese will try to get more than that out of you as a tip for extras.

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Frankly the only way we can start getting the providers to drop the prices in this area is to start making them hungry again. Don't be afraid to walk away if the price is unreasonable. On another note: Stop funding overseas organized crime by paying for asian massage parlors.

WiseBorn
10-11-02, 12:50
Originally posted by fantasyzfreddy
At the time (a year and a half ago) $150 was the total price for the massage/table shower/FS experience. Perhaps at the time, the massage/table shower price alone was $50 and the additional FS was $100. We didn't break it down, you went in said you wanted a $150 session, they said something pretaining to "sucky and fucky" and you got exactly that.

I believe now, as I have read on this board that the price is $60 for a standard massage/table shower, then an additional $100 for FS, negotiated later at the table.

I cannot say what would happen if you went in and asked for a $150 session. They may laugh at you. Obviously the price has been raised to $160. Of course the individual massuese will try to get more than that out of you as a tip for extras.

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Frankly the only way we can start getting the providers to drop the prices in this area is to start making them hungry again. Don't be afraid to walk away if the price is unreasonable. On another note: Stop funding overseas organized crime by paying for asian massage parlors.

you're right freddy i remember when you could pay the forty dollar option and pay her 100 and still get what you came for the prices have gone up.

PinkSalad
10-11-02, 21:03
ok, i got a problem

every escort i call either doesn't pick up, brushes me off, or hangs up on me. i told them already in e-mails that was only 19 so what am i doing wrong? all i do is say "Hi, i'm calling about your ad in [insert website here]" then i'm eitehr hung up on, politely told to fuck off, or the phone's never answered.

lil help here guys?

Figrindan
10-11-02, 22:58
PinkSalad: You actually say "calling about your ad"????? That sounds like A) you're a reporter and want to interview her on Fox 5 News; B) you're another website and you want to sell her another ad; C) you're some freak teenager hoping to get free phone sex; or D) you're LE trying to feel out how "accurate" her ad is. Just tell her you "want to make an appointment"!!!!! Then let HER ask the questions.

traveler
10-14-02, 09:36
pinksalad, i don't think your problem is entirely what you are saying on the phone. i think it is your age. amps and escorts prefer an older customer. i have been told many times by providers that they do not like to "entertain" the younger set. and that is for more than just one reason. the main reason is they are afraid of taking in someone ****. to get busted on that is a serious crime. far more serious than prostitution. also, the younger set sometimes cause more problems. these are not my words, but what i have heard them say. i was in an amp one evening when i heard a provider turn away a young man. i asked her later why, and she gave me these reasons. i have heard this more than once. traveler.

fantasyzfreddy
10-14-02, 22:55
Hmmm... Yes, I took a co-worker of mine to Downtown once a year or so ago and they didn't want to serve him cause he looked younger than his 21 years. Finally I agreed to pay for both of us "$300" and put the money on the table. They took the money and showed us to our rooms.

Other than that I have been doing this sort of thing since I was 22 and get the LE question just about everytime, especially when I have just had a buzz cut. In fact I had a lady in Silver Spring once who refused to go into a motel with me cause she thought my aura was blue.

Don't know what to tell you. Talk in a deep voice, don't mention sex on the phone, use the following key words: incall appointment, an hour, where, how much, what does the girl look like...etc. Don't get pissed off by their attitude. Be polite, don't use foul language.

OH AND DON'T TRY TO BLOCK YOUR PHONE NUMBER!!! That really pisses them off.

importer
10-20-02, 03:47
Where is the best place to find latina girls? They are so sexy!

StWalkinCheetah
10-20-02, 18:50
Originally posted by importer
Where is the best place to find latina girls? They are so sexy!
Hey... I don't mean to sound like a wise ass but SOUTHWEST has cheap flights across country. Think about catching one of them to San DIego so you can take the short ride into Tijuana... one of the best and cheapest places to score a very wide variety of CHICAS. The place is a blast. There are quite a number of sites devited just to the scene down in TJ (the WSG area of the board on TJ ain't bad either). Check it out. I'm from DC... SHAW BABY...SHAW! but go to TJ as much as I can.
Peace out bro!

Hargow20
10-22-02, 14:55
Any street action??

Mighty Spearsman
10-23-02, 11:02
Went to ICM last Friday as I said I would in my posting a couple of weeks ago. Unfortunately, I was very disappointed. Had a half-hour session with a 22-year-old named Alex, thin, attractive, long black hair, very polite, but only a perfunctory massage and very quick, uninspired HJ.

ICM's ads now state clearly "No Prostitution," so a HJ is all you can expect from this place. And although I've had GFE several times in the past here, no GFE this time - she even seemed uncomfortable when I tried to give her a light hug.

Not sure if I'll go back, and if I do, I'll try one of the other ladies instead of Alex. There was an attractive Oriental girl named Kimora working there who seemed promising (I wished I had picked her instead of Alex), a decent-looking Russian chick named Sasha and an overweight white girl who I was not impressed.

Any reports from you guys on your recent visits here?

WiseBorn
10-23-02, 18:55
it was the same story when I went there two years ago I thought maybe it was a different place but from what you said it's the same I had a nice HJ from a beautiful girl from guam. it was nice but personally I don't beleive in paying for HJ's however a friend of mine runs a website and and he met a young lady who works there who is willing to do a video for him. but other than that I guess you have to really know the girl.

TrashMan
10-24-02, 23:41
Been busy. Several comments.
Why waste time at any DC AMP that is not FS? I don't get it! What's the point when there are so many that provide great FS.
Tried CPHC a few weeks ago and was very pleasantly surprised. Very clean place with really large rooms. Elisa had me bend over a chair and Asian'ed me like nobody's business, then had me sit and reverse cowgirl'ed me while seated, finally ended with her bent over the chair. Great innovative technique. Of and before she started, she carefully placed the chair next to the towel cabinet that she then spun 180 degrees revealing a big mirror as she grinned wickedly at me. Great fun.
The City Paper continues to be a great source for girls. I tried Laura, a late 20's Russian girl with big tits and a penchant for deep greek. I was a little disapointed though because I had asked specifically for a girl willing to BBBJ and she wouldn't so I made up for it by slamming her ass real good for her.
Found a great little blonde cutie named Shana early 20's for 160 who provided completely unrushed BBBJ deep as you want gag her style with her head hanging off the edge of the table while getting probed to the max in both holes. Unbelievably good action. Really nice safe clean apartment in very safe area.
Spent some time combing through the ads, calling for pricing, locations, attitudes, etc. and have developed a really nice list of girls. A little legwork goes a long way.
Also been doing a little detective work on the DC SW scene. Found that clearly the NY Ave near Texaco seems to still be about the only location I've found and it's really hit or miss. Last night I saw a bunch though and they were blatantly waving at cars like in the old days. All black, but a few were pretty damned cute. I wondered why all the LE were out yet only in bunches at the hotels with their lights on. Turns out they were looking for the sniper guys! Glad I don't drive a Caprice! I always tend to be cautious and look over situations for a while before making a move and I notice on multiple nights a black late model SUV in the parking lot of the Texaco with lights off and a big black dude inside who occaisonally drives off and then returns. I have seen a few girls go over and talk to him. So...is this guy a pimp or LE? I smell LE and don't wanna find out the hard way so I will continue to observe for a while. Anybody got a thought on this?
Also I cruised in the HOJO parking lot on NY Ave looking for girls especially the white cute one mentioned on the board a little while back but so far have seen nothing.
Anybody else got any revelations for SW locations? I get in the mood for a BBBJ and that's all so they are the best bet for that based on my Baltimore experiences.

Frank Africa
10-25-02, 14:25
Dear TrashMan:

Great post, but when you wrote: "Elisa had me bend over a chair and Asian'ed me like nobody's business"

Forgive my ignorance, but what exactly does that mean? Did she give you a tongue licking around your butthole while you were bent over the chair, or is it something else?

Also, could you please describe Elisa? I'll be in DC in mid-November and would like to check her out. Thanks!

SWCruiser
10-25-02, 15:21
Trashman,

I've had zero luck in finding bbbj from city paper ads. I ask about "french without" but get "can't talk about that on the phone." Solmetimes it turns out to be available when I see the girl, but do you have a way of asking when answering the ad that conveys what you're looking for and actually gets a response? Also, although 160 is steep for it, I'm interested in more info on this shana you mention. Looks? Was it 160 for the head, or were you paying for more?

importer
10-25-02, 18:26
Trashman,

Cruise L from 16 to 13th hang a right on 13th go back around on the service section of K. There is plenty of action on this block. You can find nice lookin white girls there also. Today while driving through DC my co worker told that you can get nice latina women over by 16th and Park for $30. He told me there are muy bonita colombianas, and puertorriquenas. I could not understand what he was telling me you get for $30 as he only speaks espanol, but I plan to find out.



Later

TrashMan
10-25-02, 23:44
In response to several questions.
Elisa at CPHC is early 20's with nice high tight young girls big boobs and nice slim waist and hips. Hair is blond streaked.
By Asian I mean a tongue rim job on your asshole. all the while reaching under between my legs and jerking me off and playing with my balls before we got to the main events.

The girl at the apartment that was 160 was all inclusive for deep throat BBBJTCIM and then FS. I did anything and everything I wanted to her, nice and nasty. Those of you who know me know I'm serious about that.

In regards to the City Paper ads, first of all don't even waste your time calling any VA numbers. While some are definitely FS, way too many are rip off artists. Maryland is 50/50 although lately the odds have definitely improved a lot. DC numbers with DC locations are always your best bet.

When I call, I simply ask right away what is the rate for an hour incall, tell them what I am looking for in a girl specifically very young ( legal age of course ), very petite slender hard tight body blonde or brunette with no BS inhibitions or rules. I then ask what they have that matches up as best possible to that. Now they are selling you. I then ask if any of the girls speak greek for a tip. Now the girls who speak greek are usually willing to BBBJ.
Sometimes, if I think I have a semi honest one on the phone and that she seems to feel comfortable with me, I say that while I certainly expect to wear a raincoat for the main event that a I hate to have to use a translator for my french lessons, will that be OK? So far, I have found a greater percentage who will admit to speaking greek on the phone than will give the OK for BBBJ even in couched terms. I am now at the point that I simply try them out and cross them off the list if they won't. I have had really good luck when arriving there but before handing over the $$ to make it clear that I expect no translation. Sometimes they balk, but I make it clear I'm leaving with my money if they won't do it so they very often give in once they see and smell the $$.
No fool proof, but it can be effective. Hell, there are plenty out there and they know it so if you leave, that's OK, get back on the phone

TrashMan
10-26-02, 08:59
Importer,

What time do you see the girls on the L St run? So far I see nothing up to like 11PM. I did try dropping in to Clicks bar once based on posts a while back regading that place. Interesting place and clearly has possibilities but it was really empty. I can only assume it is a real late night joint. Really cheap drinks that are at least 2 or 3 drinks in one. Lots of corners and back rooms that must get some initial action, kind of wild west place.

I have long thought that the latino sections near where you describe must have some SW action so I have cruised there several times but seen nothing so far that I could identify as SW but then again there are a lot of people out around there and it may just be too difficult to identify them plus I wonder if they cater more to latino men clients as opposed to older white guys.

Anybody ever try the Latin Palace on Florida? I have been really tempted based on price and have talked on the phone several times to them and they sound good on the phone but the parking situation is really bad, especially at night and you are way to visible on a heavily traveled street by citizens and LE. Again, I would stand out like a sore thumb there.

WiseBorn
10-26-02, 12:54
Originally posted by TrashMan
Been busy. Several comments.
Why waste time at any DC AMP that is not FS? I don't get it! What's the point when there are so many that provide great FS.
Tried CPHC a few weeks ago and was very pleasantly surprised. Very clean place with really large rooms. Elisa had me bend over a chair and Asian'ed me like nobody's business, then had me sit and reverse cowgirl'ed me while seated, finally ended with her bent over the chair. Great innovative technique. Of and before she started, she carefully placed the chair next to the towel cabinet that she then spun 180 degrees revealing a big mirror as she grinned wickedly at me. Great fun.
The City Paper continues to be a great source for girls. I tried Laura, a late 20's Russian girl with big tits and a penchant for deep greek. I was a little disapointed though because I had asked specifically for a girl willing to BBBJ and she wouldn't so I made up for it by slamming her ass real good for her.
Found a great little blonde cutie named Shana early 20's for 160 who provided completely unrushed BBBJ deep as you want gag her style with her head hanging off the edge of the table while getting probed to the max in both holes. Unbelievably good action. Really nice safe clean apartment in very safe area.
Spent some time combing through the ads, calling for pricing, locations, attitudes, etc. and have developed a really nice list of girls. A little legwork goes a long way.
Also been doing a little detective work on the DC SW scene. Found that clearly the NY Ave near Texaco seems to still be about the only location I've found and it's really hit or miss. Last night I saw a bunch though and they were blatantly waving at cars like in the old days. All black, but a few were pretty damned cute. I wondered why all the LE were out yet only in bunches at the hotels with their lights on. Turns out they were looking for the sniper guys! Glad I don't drive a Caprice! I always tend to be cautious and look over situations for a while before making a move and I notice on multiple nights a black late model SUV in the parking lot of the Texaco with lights off and a big black dude inside who occaisonally drives off and then returns. I have seen a few girls go over and talk to him. So...is this guy a pimp or LE? I smell LE and don't wanna find out the hard way so I will continue to observe for a while. Anybody got a thought on this?
Also I cruised in the HOJO parking lot on NY Ave looking for girls especially the white cute one mentioned on the board a little while back but so far have seen nothing.
Anybody else got any revelations for SW locations? I get in the mood for a BBBJ and that's all so they are the best bet for that based on my Baltimore experiences.

great post man that dude in the SUV is a pimp there are a few white girls that sometimes walk around Upper West Virgina Ave. and near the hotels past the checkers leading out of the city

WiseBorn
10-26-02, 13:03
Originally posted by TrashMan
Importer,

What time do you see the girls on the L St run? So far I see nothing up to like 11PM. I did try dropping in to Clicks bar once based on posts a while back regading that place. Interesting place and clearly has possibilities but it was really empty. I can only assume it is a real late night joint. Really cheap drinks that are at least 2 or 3 drinks in one. Lots of corners and back rooms that must get some initial action, kind of wild west place.

I have long thought that the latino sections near where you describe must have some SW action so I have cruised there several times but seen nothing so far that I could identify as SW but then again there are a lot of people out around there and it may just be too difficult to identify them plus I wonder if they cater more to latino men clients as opposed to older white guys.

Anybody ever try the Latin Palace on Florida? I have been really tempted based on price and have talked on the phone several times to them and they sound good on the phone but the parking situation is really bad, especially at night and you are way to visible on a heavily traveled street by citizens and LE. Again, I would stand out like a sore thumb there.

the latin palace bsically provides what they say but the girl is usually nt very attractive and won't speak english and no matter how much $$ she simply refuses to speak greek or bbbj. basically although they have ad's in the city paper and a website the chicas seem to basically cater to a spanish clientele. you get waht you pay for in there. In fact you might feel like you've paid too much based on your session

khocnhe
10-26-02, 14:31
Trashman-
Could you please post the contact info of the girls in your post?
Thanks

importer
10-27-02, 01:40
I checked the area around Park Road last night. Like you Trashman, I could not tell if anyone was working. I saw one girl. She looked pretty good. She was just hangin out with two latin dudes wearing big gold chains. They were probably drug dealers and she was one of their girlfriends. So I did not try anything. It was raining really hard last night so no one was really out. I then went to Adams Morgan. After paying ten dollars for parking I went to have a few beers in a couple of the bars hoping the rain would subside. The rain never let up. After getting my buzz on, I cruised Park Road from 14th then took Mt Pleasant. I did not see any CHICAS. So I figured I'd go downtown. I made it to L street about one o clock I saw about twelve to fifteen girls. They were using big ass umbrellas and long raincoats to keep dry. As I made my way down L Street I passed a big black Chevy Tahoe or Suburban SUV with tinted windows parked on the side of the street. There were many girls and a black guy with one of those big puffy type jackets lingering around it. I thought to myself could this be LE because it is the type of SUV you see them in often but it had Maryland plates. Could this be the same dude that was observed at the Texaco? I made my way to thirteenth and then came back around on K. There was a little action on K but much more happenings around the corner on L. I parked on L and turned my lights off but left my car running with the radio on. Within two minutes a fine ass black girl approached me, but I passed. A few minutes later a young looking dirty blonde approached me. She asked if I was looking for a date. I told her I was looking for someone special. She said her name is Angie. Then said how about someone with big tits. Then she asked me if she could get in from the rain. I said OK, but as I was driving off a cruiser came up behind me. I drove a few blocks and turned left on thirteenth. The fuzz kept going straight. I told her that I did not have a good feeling about this and let her out. I also had quite a few beers and was probably over the legal BAC level. My car is also quite distinctive. I have observed plenty of action on L Street and in the downtown area Friday nights after midnight for several weeks. I have not seen anyone getting busted but I have observed a significant LE presence. This leads me to believe that someone is getting paid off or LE is concerned with more important issues. I believe that downtown is where its at right now but some of these girls are trying to take us for all weve got. Ive had girls quoting me as high as $150. These girls are not escorts damn it. They are SWs. We really have got to let them know that we are not paying that much. That is way to inflated. Not even worth it. Is anyone having any good luck in the Downtown area? I want to find a regular I can get her beeper number from so I dont have to deal with all this. Wiseborn, where is the Latin place or could you point me to their website?

TrashMan
10-27-02, 23:17
Wiseborn, thanks for the heads up on Latin Palace. I think I will skip it. No BBBJ is not acceptable to me. Glad you see the guy in the SUV as not LE.

Knoche, I am reluctant to give out detailed info especially to someone new to this board. You can use the classifieds and take your pick using some of the advice I gave. Hang around a bit and you'll catch on. I'd hate to have these girls receive an unwanted LE visit.

On a different note, I got stood up by an incall tonight! Made an appointment for 8:30 with a new girl and was to call when I arrived at her building to get apt #. She never answered. I did note an unmarked LE cruiser across the street so perhaps that made her skittish but I was pissed.

jay_blacksby
10-29-02, 02:20
I've been searching (without any luck) for a kinky, petite, submissive black escort or SW in the DC area for BDSM-style fun. I'm willing to pay a premium to satisfy this fantasy. If anyone on the board has a lead on any girl fitting this description, I'd be much obliged if you would share them with me.

Thanks

Jay

WiseBorn
10-29-02, 20:52
Originally posted by importer
I checked the area around Park Road last night. Like you Trashman, I could not tell if anyone was working. I saw one girl. She looked pretty good. She was just hangin out with two latin dudes wearing big gold chains. They were probably drug dealers and she was one of their girlfriends. So I did not try anything. It was raining really hard last night so no one was really out. I then went to Adams Morgan. After paying ten dollars for parking I went to have a few beers in a couple of the bars hoping the rain would subside. The rain never let up. After getting my buzz on, I cruised Park Road from 14th then took Mt Pleasant. I did not see any CHICAS. So I figured I'd go downtown. I made it to L street about one o clock I saw about twelve to fifteen girls. They were using big ass umbrellas and long raincoats to keep dry. As I made my way down L Street I passed a big black Chevy Tahoe or Suburban SUV with tinted windows parked on the side of the street. There were many girls and a black guy with one of those big puffy type jackets lingering around it. I thought to myself could this be LE because it is the type of SUV you see them in often but it had Maryland plates. Could this be the same dude that was observed at the Texaco? I made my way to thirteenth and then came back around on K. There was a little action on K but much more happenings around the corner on L. I parked on L and turned my lights off but left my car running with the radio on. Within two minutes a fine ass black girl approached me, but I passed. A few minutes later a young looking dirty blonde approached me. She asked if I was looking for a date. I told her I was looking for someone special. She said her name is Angie. Then said how about someone with big tits. Then she asked me if she could get in from the rain. I said OK, but as I was driving off a cruiser came up behind me. I drove a few blocks and turned left on thirteenth. The fuzz kept going straight. I told her that I did not have a good feeling about this and let her out. I also had quite a few beers and was probably over the legal BAC level. My car is also quite distinctive. I have observed plenty of action on L Street and in the downtown area Friday nights after midnight for several weeks. I have not seen anyone getting busted but I have observed a significant LE presence. This leads me to believe that someone is getting paid off or LE is concerned with more important issues. I believe that downtown is where its at right now but some of these girls are trying to take us for all weve got. Ive had girls quoting me as high as $150. These girls are not escorts damn it. They are SWs. We really have got to let them know that we are not paying that much. That is way to inflated. Not even worth it. Is anyone having any good luck in the Downtown area? I want to find a regular I can get her beeper number from so I dont have to deal with all this. Wiseborn, where is the Latin place or could you point me to their website?

http://www.latinpalace.com/ they're on Florida ave. NW they also have a place in the 3500 block of park road prices as low as $30 but they'll try to charge gringo $75. I agree the SW prices are outrageous they're quoting their eros prices don't pay more that $80-100 at the very most.

WiseBorn
10-29-02, 21:01
Originally posted by jay_blacksby
I've been searching (without any luck) for a kinky, petite, submissive black escort or SW in the DC area for BDSM-style fun. I'm willing to pay a premium to satisfy this fantasy. If anyone on the board has a lead on any girl fitting this description, I'd be much obliged if you would share them with me.

Thanks

Jay

go to http://www.DCdreamgirls.com/ ask for either Dream or Deja they'll take care of you.

WiseBorn
10-29-02, 21:06
Originally posted by TrashMan
Wiseborn, thanks for the heads up on Latin Palace. I think I will skip it. No BBBJ is not acceptable to me. Glad you see the guy in the SUV as not LE.

Knoche, I am reluctant to give out detailed info especially to someone new to this board. You can use the classifieds and take your pick using some of the advice I gave. Hang around a bit and you'll catch on. I'd hate to have these girls receive an unwanted LE visit.

On a different note, I got stood up by an incall tonight! Made an appointment for 8:30 with a new girl and was to call when I arrived at her building to get apt #. She never answered. I did note an unmarked LE cruiser across the street so perhaps that made her skittish but I was pissed.


that parking lot is where the pimps go to check up on there girls.

Chip_s
11-01-02, 08:52
What is BBBJ?

Frank Africa
11-01-02, 16:16
BBBJ = Bare-Backed Blow Job, meaning a regular blow job without the girl (or you) putting a condom on your hard dick first. Feels better than a CBJ but there's an increased risk of passing a disease/virus from one side to the other.

as opposed to:

CBJ = Covered Blow Job. Doesn't feel quite as good as a BBBJ but there's virtually no risk of a disease/virus being passed along.

Class dismissed!

importer
11-02-02, 18:49
Went to the downtown on vermont ave last night. All I was able to get was a regular massage. Anyone else had any luck or no luck with them?

Bysshe
11-04-02, 14:35
Um... a review of past posts will clearly show that Downtown has been the source of many erotic delights for me, and other posters as well.

Could your approach have been flawed? I've never had the slightest trouble getting FS at Downtown.

fantasyzfreddy
11-05-02, 02:53
Probably the old saying...

If you look and act like a cop, they won't offer you the goodies.

Another thing that I notice alot from first timers is your attitude sucks. If you are rude and aggressive in any way, they have the right not to serve you all the bells and whistles. First timers usually believe that these women are ****** and prostitutes who deserve to be treated like sex slaves for their private fantasies. Do not go into a session attempting to dominate, intimidate or force yourself on these people. Just because you are paying them money for a service doesn't mean you will receive everything you think you should be receiving. As we are finding out more and more, full service apparently has different meanings for some people depending on the situation.

I find that acting like a shy, quiet, stupid virgin usually gets me alot of good stuff not available to other folks. Or maybe I am just deluding myself by thinking they care, but I usually get the pooty.

WiseBorn
11-05-02, 20:21
I never had any problems there either and I don't go that much it's gotta be your appoach these people want to take care of you.

importer
11-05-02, 20:40
Well, when I got there I was asked if I've ever been there before. I told her no and was asked for sixty dollars up front and to tip appropriately. Is this the time I should ask for full service? I was given the table shower and massage, but when I tried to ask for more the masseuse acted like she did not know what I was saying. I wasn't rude in any way. I tipped her forty dollars after she helped me put my clothes back on. Maybe it was too late and they were just trying to rush me through. I got there at three o'clock or so. I do have quite a short haircut and probably look like a cop but I dont think that was the problem.

Dr Quiz
11-07-02, 13:34
you need to broach the subject with you hand on her crotch, thya are nude im assuming.
that is sure sign you are not a cop.
200. is going to get you fs probably wouldnt hurt to flash the dough

WiseBorn
11-07-02, 14:08
I don't understand that either usually the routine is that you tell her that you have been there before and a girl washing you up asks you what you want you give hera tip (about 5 jacks) and she takes care of you. next say you've been there before

jeffh30
11-07-02, 19:42
I'm new to the area and not to familier with D.C. , could someone elighten me as to where the SW's are NW, NE,SE,SW and street's....... If not where can I find a good AMP in town......

Bysshe
11-08-02, 09:28
Originally posted by jeffh30
I'm new to the area and not to familier with D.C. , could someone elighten me as to where the SW's are NW, NE,SE,SW and street's....... If not where can I find a good AMP in town......

I don't suppose you might consider reading the other posts in this forum, or maybe checking out the archives? They contain the onformation you're asking about. That's why this forum exists.

Good luck, and if you have any questions after reading the old messages, post away.

Bysshe

Bn
11-08-02, 19:49
Originally posted by DrQuiz

200. is going to get you fs probably wouldnt hurt to flash the dough

Please don't offer that much. It will ruin it for the people that get it for 100.


Bone

D5570
11-10-02, 10:32
Big sting operation last night on the corner of 12th and O in NE. Pretty black girl, short hair, black and white skirt with tall, shiny black boots. She was standing on the corner under the street light and the boys in blue were arresting guys left and right. Be careful.

Ohtommy
11-11-02, 00:16
Can someone give some more precise directions for the latin palace on Florida? Florida is a long street. Thanks

Frank Africa
11-11-02, 10:47
I beleive that the Latina Palace is located around 227 Florida NW, which means it is about two or three blocks west of the intersection of Florida and North Capital Street. You can probably find the exact address in the "Adult Services" section of the free weekly newspaper City Paper.

Good luck with your visit - there have only been a few pstings about this place, most of them mixed or negative reviews. Please write a post of your experiences there, so the rest of us can find out what the latest story is about that place. Thanks!

Dr Quiz
11-11-02, 13:12
Originally posted by Bn
Please don't offer that much. It will ruin it for the people that get it for 100.


Bone
dont worry i have been to dc only handfull of times over the yrs
a georgetown health spa
an amp called the kings castle
and one place i found in the city paper

traveler
11-11-02, 16:00
Ohtommy, the Latina place is at 233 Florida St. Telephone number is 202-387-4971. They have a website. www.dclatina.com. The girls pictured there are never there from what I understand. Also the prices listed are not accurate either. I have been told that it is $75 house fee and you can negotiate the rest with the girl. I have heard that can be for as little as $40.00 on up. I have never been there but have been tempted. I have called a couple of times. Problem is there is no parking and it is not real close to a Metro stop. If you go, please post your experience there. Traveler.

Ohtommy
11-11-02, 16:43
Thanks for all the details guys,
But I found it already thru the city paper. Everything just as advertised. At lunch there seem to be two girls working, and you choose. Both were thin, one brunette, one blonde. Give the hostess $75, you choose, then go to a room. CBJ and CFS (I would insist if she hadn't - I am no lunatic like some of you apparently are, everything w/me is w/condom) - were actually given free but I tipped $40. That may be dumb but I like to tip for enthusiasm. I took the blonde and she was very friendly and really into it, she had a decent bod and beautiful face - 7 to 8 overall. Now I have to warn you that I am decent looking and that usually has something to do with the positive response I get from providers. Hey working girls want a good looking guy just like any girl does. As Charlie Sheen said, we are not paying for the sex, we pay so they'll leave afterward. Anyway, my experience at Latina Palace was positive and I would go back again. And the info about only latin guys there is wrong. The girl told me that there are some houses that cater exclusively to latin guys, but that the Latin Palace advertises in the city paper just so that a larger variety will come in.

Bysshe
11-12-02, 12:02
ohtommy,

Where did you park -- or, if you didn't drive, how did you get there?

Chip_s
11-13-02, 09:24
I went to DCLatina.com (Latina Palace), when it first opened. There was one girl there. She was petite and cute. I gave the guy the $75.00 house fee. The girl went and I went to the room. She removed her panties. After I undressed she got down on her knees, got me hard, put on a condom and started giving me head. When I indicated I wanted to fuck she layed down and spread her legs. She was nice and tight and very wet. When we were finished I gave her 20 bucks, which she was most grateful for. I will definitely go back again. I would love to try the two girl show.

WiseBorn
11-13-02, 13:41
when i was there there was usually only one girl but they may add another for the lunch rush.

traveler
11-13-02, 18:11
Chip_s, I have the same question as Bysshe. How did you get there. If you drove, where did you park. Traveler.

Chip_s
11-14-02, 10:25
Originally posted by traveler
Chip_s, I have the same question as Bysshe. How did you get there. If you drove, where did you park. Traveler.

I drove and parked on the street.
It was mid-afternoon.

Bysshe
11-14-02, 13:36
Chip:

When you say you parked on the street, do you mean on Florida Ave? On the same side as the establishment, or on the opposite side? Or did you park on some side street?

I ask because I've driven by the place several times, and it's not clear to me that parking is even permitted on Florida Ave on that side of the street - if it is, I'm not sanguine about the safety of a car left there, even during a brightly sunny mid-day excursion.

Bysshe

TrashMan
11-16-02, 10:40
Guys, I had posted the post below on the Baltimore Board but realize that some of you may not read that board although you should being as that area is so close and so fun. I did want to see if this night was merely an anomaly, so I went out a few more nights and can report that the same conditions applied more or less. I also went to Clicks Bar where I have gone before without much success and can report that it is a shadow of it's former self according to the folks who run it but there is still action to be arranged as the girls do come in and out. The booze is incredibly cheap too. Like the rest of this area really late night is when it lights up. Prior to midnight it's deserted. At midnight, not girls on the streets. At 12:30am, I spot one or two. By 1:00am it's like they crawled out from hiding places and were everywhere. By 1:30am 50% were picked up and gone, with the primo ones obviously getting snatched ( no pun intended! ) up first. Unfortunately, when you're an old fart like me, 1:00am is pretty late so eat your Wheaties.

{Went prowling last night through the usual spots in Baltimore. Again, saw very few girls out, but tons of marked LE all over the place in PP area. Went over at about midnight to Brooklyn and saw several girls that looked pretty good and very little LE...or so I thought. I had pulled over for a slender blonde with curly hair. She walks up, leans in the passenger window and proceeds to make small talk, making no move at all to get in or ask the usual questions. My antenna went up so when she finally asked if I had stopped for her, I said no. She left and I went down the road, turned around and when I came back not 3 minutes later, at that same spot were now two LE cruisers with lights flashing and a spot light on a car with some poor slob alone in it. Gee, do ya think she was a decoy? Hmm?
That was enough for me so I headed back to DC area. On a whim, decided to check DC SW action although I have lamented about lack thereof here in the past.
First spot as you come in to DC on New York Ave, the traditional SW spot was completely empty. Drove on in to check out the
L Street stretch between 17th and 13th that I had seen reports on but never had seen the girls. Before reaching that spot, I swung off NY onto Mass Ave and K st area off 7th and immediately saw not one but several groups of between 3 and 8 girls! Holy shit! Drove past them down to L Street and Holy Shit! again, they were all over the place! Between those two areas there must have been over 50 girls out. It was like the old days when they would yell and wave at the cars. Plus, they were all dressed in the traditional hooker outfits with huge high heeled boots thigh high with a top that only covered the top 3rd of the asses! Lots of open tops with tits all over the place and full slease makeup and hair. It was like an international smorgasbord with black, white, latino, and asian girls in equal numbers and none were less than a 6 with most at least 7 or 8. A few big booties that the brothers like, but lots of slender ones too.
I thought I was seeing things and went nuts!
Now, in equal numbers in the L street area were LE cruisers all over the p place, but there were so many girls moving all around that the LE was pretty ineffective. Additionally, there were a fair amount of guys cruising pretty aggressively whipping U Turns in the middle of the streets, pulling over and taking off that the whole scene was surreal like a sex rodeo. It was almost comical and resembled a sharke feeding frenzy.
I looked over the whole thing pretty well and decided that all I had to do was stay away from the circling cruisers who, by the way, never pulled anyone over and were pulling up and talking and joking with several of the girls. At first I thought that meant those girls were decoys, but then I would see the cruiser pull away to circle again and some guy would pull in right behind and the girl would jump in and off they'd go. I waited until the street area seemed pretty clear of LE and pretty soon a gorgeous little brunette came around the corner with two friends. I pulled up and they came over and merely asked which girl I wanted. Naturally I went with the young brunette! She was no more than 18 - 20 and really cute. We drove off, she asked if I was LE, I asked to see her body and she showed it all without hesitation.
I had decided to test the waters with only a BJ so I took her to a less lit and traveled area a few blocks away while telling her what I wanted that night. She said no problem. I asked how much, she played dumb and asked how much I was willing to part with. I told her 20, she said no, 40. That meant the price was 30 and within 5 seconds the price was agreed upon. She started to pull out a condom and I said no, no, no condom honey. She asked the scientific question was I clean? Of course I said yes, which I am, but the CBJ to BBBJ agreement took like another 5 seconds at most. She was very talented and I took full advantage of feeling up her young little body any way I liked which accelerated the ending, but was well worth it. As I was getting pretty close, I told her swallowing would get her another 10. What good little swallowing girl she proved to be!
She got her 10 and I took her back to the area I found her out she hopped 40 richer.
Sorry this was so long, but I thought that some of you Baltimore regular cruisers would appreciate the report on what would appear to be happy well stocked hunting grounds as I have appreciated the advice received on Baltimore when DC was dead.}

Chip_s
11-16-02, 13:36
Originally posted by Bysshe
Chip:

When you say you parked on the street, do you mean on Florida Ave? On the same side as the establishment, or on the opposite side? Or did you park on some side street?

I ask because I've driven by the place several times, and it's not clear to me that parking is even permitted on Florida Ave on that side of the street - if it is, I'm not sanguine about the safety of a car left there, even during a brightly sunny mid-day excursion.

Bysshe

I don't remember for sure. It's been awhile. I parked where there was an open spot.

kraft22
11-17-02, 01:42
Trashman,

Very nice post on the DC SW action. I have always been afraid of pursuing any of that action due to the fact I don't want to get busted.
Can you provide any advice on picking up a SW and going back to a room? It might sound like a stupid question, but I have zero experience dealing with SW's and I have heard that if you get busted LE can impound your vehicle. If I were to spot a lady that I was interested in do they generally have a room close by where they conduct business? Even for just a CBJ or BBBJ I would prefer to go somewhere other than the front seat of my car.
The prices seem to be much cheaper than the AMP's and I would certainly like to play as much as possible. Some of the SW's are very fine. If a CBJ is about 40 what can FS be had for ?
Just a thought, with winter approaching soon, are these ladies still out and about in the colder season or is there a local gathering spot they hangout at?
Many years ago there was a bar called Peggy's Place that was on L St and lots of the girls use to be in that area. I don't even think it is still open.
Any input is welcome.

TrashMan
11-17-02, 13:55
Krafty,
Exercise extreme caution when playing in the SW playground. Getting busted is the lesser of possible unpleasantries you may encounter. Getting a knife in your gut or the crap beat out of you by an SW "friend" are distinct possibilities. On a lower scale of problems is getting robbed of either money, wallet, or even your cell phone etc. And of course the disease risk rises dramatically with these girls, including Aids HIV.
Having said all that, it is far less expensive and somehow exhilarating as well. I think the lower cost is the least important criteria and your personal level of risk tolerance is of more importance when deciding to take this route and in evaluating a particular girl or situation. Frankly, with my heart condition being what it is, I'm on borrowed or at least pretty short time anyway so my level of risk tolerance has risen dramatically. On the other hand if you're married with little kiddies and a nice house in the burbs like I used to be, the risk tolerance is much lower, you can't afford to have problems. Evaluate your own situation, but be honest with yourself.
Having said all that, some practical advice. First of all, take your time and look over the whole situation really well. Park and observe for a while. Learn the girls from appearance that are obvious regulars. You mentioned some are good looking. The best looking are often LE decoys. The others look good from a short distance but up close are often not really so hot. They know how to camaflage pretty well. The key is when you see one you like the looks of and you've decided that the streets look relatively safe enough to try a pickup, make your move quickly otherwise she will get snapped up right before your very eyes. Every time that happens, you become less discriminating and less cautious because you're horny and impatient.
Pull over as close to her as possible and let her approach the car. If she does not approach the car, don't hassle her! Sometimes it's not an SW! Sometimes she has spotted LE and won't approach. Take the hint! Circle around and try again. If it still isn't happening, take a pass. On that same note, don't send too much time in one area circling around and around. Your car becomes very noticable!
Once she approaches, let her lean in the window and she will ask if you are dating or some such question. Nod and let her get in. Under no circumstances ask her any questions related to sex or money at this point. If she doesn'y get in or wants to talk sex or money or is acting coy from outside the car, pass on her immediately! Once she gets in, drive off and let her make the next move. She will generally ask if you're LE and may then grab your dick. I usually wait until they do all that and have satisfied themselves and then tell them to show me some tits and ass. No show equals out the door. All this while be observant out the back and to your sides to determine if you think anyone either LE or her pimp is following you. Get off the main streets and away from the action but NEVER let yourself get on a one way dead end street so pay attention. Now that you're convinced that she's not LE and dosn't have a dick or really bad odor, etc. you can decide what you want. At this point I usually tell them that I am not really interested in parking and doing it in the car. They will try and convince you that it's safe and that they know a good spot, etc. My advice, don't do it! What I have done several times with success is to tell her all I want is a BJ and that she can do it while I drive. Once you're off the main drag, I think that's relatively safe. Do NOT pull down your pants! Just unzip and pull him out. Obviously, wear suitably loose clothing. A long shirt untucked works well if you have to cover up your johnson right quick. These girls are all very accomplished pick pockets so don't leave your wallet and money in your pants. Put them away out of sight and where they won't get them. Keep only enough money in a shirt breast pocket to do your deed. Speaking of which, it's all negotiable. Be prepared and look prepared to walk if they get too greedy pricewise, but don't be cheap by the same token. There is a limit to negotiations. Also get the rules clear up front. If you want a BBBJ spell it out. I have found that an extra 10 spot works to get them to swallow if that's your thing. They do get kind of pissed if you come in their mouth and then go "Whoops!"
As far as hotels ae concerned, I usually reserve them for FS which goes for 50 - 100 depending on the girl and your negotiation abilities. Some will try for 150 - 200 but most wil go for 100.
Again, I like to control the situation so I try to have a preconceived notion of where to go and not let them pick the hotel. I would strongly advise against going to "their" room. You might be walking into a real problem situation. Instead, you can ask if she can recommend a hotel and ask for a couple of places and choose one. Do a little homework on the internet and find a few places sort of close but not too close to the action and know the price and deal with it that way. Now, I will usually try to get the girl to register for the room. That avoids your name on the records whenever possible. You don't want to get a letter f thanking you for your recent stay arriving in your mail and precipitating questions from the wife. Tough to answer!
Usually you have to show ID so there's not a lot of point to registering as John Smith unless they don't require ID, most do.
Often the girls are skilled at negotiating "short term " rates. Decide if you're going to stay all night after you're done with her. Or are you really adventerous and have youthful stamina and going to go out and get another one! Even better is to decide on staying out and get a room in advance armed with all your favorite toys and booze, etc and then go out "shopping". That way, you eliminate all discussion and indecision and time taken to deal with a hotel once you've found your playmate. Much smoother and simpler as far as I am concerned. A few last words of advice. In the hotel with the girl, hide your valuables and keys well! Do NOT take a shower before hand with her in the room! Do take one well before hand so you're not stinky. Do try to get her to take a shower before hand so she's not stinky, or worse, slimy. Finally NEVER EVER fall alseep with her in the room! You will wake up without your valuables or car keys if she can find them and maybe with your throat slit!
In a word, all the way through, be careful, these girls can be dangerous or delightful.

kraft22
11-18-02, 00:10
Trashman,

WOW ... I am very grateful for the advice. I had no idea how dangerous picking up a SW could be. I have much to learn.
I am rethinking even messing around with SW's altogether.
For now I am sticking to the AMP's ... I have a weakness for Asian women, but on my limited budget I can't visit them as much as I would like to.
I have never tried any of the DC AMP's that I have seen posts about (Downtown, Supra, Mirage, etc). I have been having good luck with HWC in N VA.
Many thanks for the lesson. I appreciate it.

jd1
11-19-02, 20:42
Trashman,

thank you for all the great advice. i have seen your reviews on other review sites and info on this site. u are an asset to the community (done brown nosing). are u gonna throw down at the baltimore block again like last summer? thanks agian for all the info.

TonydaSnake
11-20-02, 10:07
trashman, your post rules

I have never had any major problem (good luck for sure) with the SW scene in DC but it is dangerous and you have to have to be fully alert at all times...thus the thrill.

I would add a couple of small details to trashman's prodigious post. Anytime you come in contact with a man in the SW scene, whether he is offering help finding ladies, hanging out near an area you want to park, or in or near a hotel or other room you arer going to, JUST WALK AWAY from the deal no matter how the lady might protest. Any interaction with a dude can only be bad news.

In my opinion the ultimate wisdom of the SW scene that almost everyone ignores is that you don't have to just frequent the most popular SW beats. THese areas have great ho's but also the lions share of con artist, muggers, and men in blue. Give yourself some time and approach the main areas slowly, and drive around some first. Sometimes you can find some hot chicks, in much more mellow neighborhoods and avoid most of the predators and scavengers.

For those who have the bucks, just go to the AMPS! But please be firm with the mamasan about what you want and have tip in hand to prove you are serious. Way to many whoremongers are getting ripped off in these places since they are learning that they can get $100. from you and keep their clothes on. Good for them bad for us. If it doesn't feel right it's not, so walk out.

Mighty Spearsman
11-22-02, 11:24
Directions and a report on the Downtown AMP in DC:

1) Directions: the Downtown Spa is located at 1018 Vermont Ave, N.W. Washington, DC, 20005-4973, between K and L, on the left-hand (west) side. I noticed that a couple of WSG posters had complained about not being able to find the place. I dropped by there earlier this week and now I understand why: there is no sign anywhere for this place. This AMP is located on the 4th floor of an old 4-story building crammed between two taller new office buildings. On the ground floor there is nothing except "1018" on the glass front door and some partially scaped-off gold leaf lettering for an "herb n spice" restaurant that is now closed. There is also a neon sign hanging inside the window to the left of the front door, but the front of the sign is missing and there's no writing to read. The ground floor lobby inside is also empty, except for a small mailbox that says "4th Floor" - that's the mailbox for the AMP.

Walking up the stairs is a surreal experience, as you feel as if you're in an abandoned building. There is nothing on the second floor landing except a boarded-up door. On the 3rd floor landing is the door to the herb n spice restaurant, but it is also padlocked and boarded-up. Finally you walk up the stairs to the 4th floor, where you find a wooden door with lots of little credit card stickers on it and a peephole, but no sign, nothing to indicate where you are. Ring the doorbell, and they'll let you in.

2) Report: I've been patronizing AMPs regularly since 1989, and my visit to Downtown this week was quite possibly the best session I've ever had at an AMP. I paid $60 to a 40-ish lady after I got into the place. She asked me if I had been there before and I said yes, and that I had been there a year ago and had gotten a $150 special. The woman put a finger to her lips and said "I only collect the $60, you'll have to ask the girl" but winked while she said it.

Then a Korean girl named Cindy walked in - very attractive face, brown hair with reddish streaks, no more than 22, thin and relatively tall with nice legs, and small but perky tits (no implants). I did not tip up front. After the usual table shower and massage in the room, she asked if I required anything else, to which I replied "let me get my wallet for a tip" and laid a $100 bill on the bedside table. I then proceeded to have the best sex session I've had in a long time, a real GFE, with ass-rimming, CBJ and her on top for the finale. I will definitely be back here again soon.

TrashMan
11-22-02, 13:42
Spearsman, Next time you go to Downtown, ask for Paula.

WiseBorn
11-26-02, 16:15
Originally posted by The E
Anyone ever pick up any Ethiopians? Been with a few that I have dated and the sex is out of this world.

really i never heard about that how did you meet them?

Mighty Spearsman
12-02-02, 16:28
Dear wiseborn and The E:

There are lots of hot Ethiopian ladies in DC, but as far as I know, all of them are only available as regular girlfriends - I've yet to meet an Ethiopian in DC who was in the sex provider business (although there might be one or two working as independent escorts).

And yes, the one Ethiopian girl who I dated back in 1996 and 1997 was hot, hot, hot!!! and loved to f--- like a rabbit. Unfortunately she wanted to get married, and I didn't, so like most good things, that came to an end.

WiseBorn
12-02-02, 22:21
thanks Spearsman I expected that to be the case. nothing seems to be happening on the streets lately it seems that many ladies are working out of hotels in the college park area for some reason. My question is why college park are the girls Terps fans or something?

BootyLover
12-03-02, 20:56
I'll be in the area beginning of the year.In fact, I won't be able to chase downtown (I don't drive & the weather will be bad at this time). Any info for low price service in the Reston, Va area?

kraft22
12-04-02, 01:05
BootyLover,

I can't personally recommend this one, but she is in the Reston area. I found her ad in the city paper. Called her once for a massage (maybe that is all you get ??), but she was all booked up and I never got to sample her services.
Call Athena today for info and appointments. 703/508-4148.

Anyway, that is all I know about in that area other than the Herndon Spa.

Happy hunting and let us know if check her out.

alphafield
12-05-02, 01:37
Hey guys. I gave a friend directions for Downtown, but he says the door has been locked everytime he tries it. Anyone else having this problem? Maybe he's at the wrong door? Anyone know their hours?

-Af-

visiting_dc
12-05-02, 21:03
Any info on reliable and reasonably priced outcall/delivery providers would be appreciated. headed to wash dc next week on business.

TrashMan
12-05-02, 21:15
Downtown hours are variable, but I've been there at noon and I've been there at midnight. The door on the street is adjacent to a now closed restaurant and appears that you are entering an abandoned building. Immediately after you enter the foyer, there is a set of stairs to your left. They are on the 3rd or 4th floor and as you walk up it is an experience to say the least as someone else posted once it's surreal because it appears to be an abandoned crack building with boarded up doors on the way up. At the top is a door which requires you ring the bell to gain entrance. If this is the door your friend is referring to then either they are closed at that time or they think he's LE. Trust me, they know when you enter the building!

Clix
12-05-02, 23:00
Read on another board that Downtown was closed for extended duration (over a day) probably due to Health Department or other minor business violations.....it is expected to reopen shortly, according to other boards...

Mikey
12-06-02, 19:47
I was at the Downtown just last week...I have always had a great experience there, staff is always friendly and the place always seem very clean...only problem is making up those flights of stairs! Last week I met Heidi, who said she had only been here a week - in from California. Fantastic. I have always paid the 60 to the mamasan (who's actually pretty cute herself, maybe in her 30's) and then given 5 jacksons up front, asking "are you going to take really good care of me?" - with a big smile of course.

WiseBorn
12-10-02, 01:20
that's the way you do it

Hunters
12-11-02, 14:49
Howdy folks. Just back from a serene and amusing downtown DC AMP where, in a moment of extreme weakness, I allowed Her Majesty to perform a BBBJ. Now I'm wondering as to the health aspects of this situation, as delightful as it was from my end. Do those of you who do this with any frequency come down with some kind of STD? Should I worry? As Dan Rather was asked, what is the frequency? Any comments, advice or wisdom much appreciated.

TrashMan
12-12-02, 23:56
Hells bells! Do want to live forever? Just tell us which place as best you can and which girl gave you the BBBJ so I can go see her! In my experience all the AMP girls toy with a little BBBJ tease and slip on the cover asian technique style.

TonydaSnake
12-13-02, 14:24
trashman...too many people want to live forever, that is why the world is full of wimps (I would use a stronger word but for the decency of this forum!).

hunters...there is so much info on the internet, check it out for your piece of mind. I have found a concensus of infomation that allow it is possible to get about anything from oral, but statistically uncommon and difficult. Sores and cuts in your mouth, or hers (and poor health) during oral increase chances of STD.

In the end I agree with trashman; just do it and be thankful...there are times at amps that with eyes closed I am 100% convinced I am getting bareback, but I look and see it is skillfull technique of blowing, touching and maybe a little tongue. Amazing! This is NOT saying i doubt you got the real thing...

SWCruiser
12-16-02, 14:05
Anyone have sugestions on where to find SW in DC during daylight hours - early to mid afternoon? I'm lookin for some quick lunchtime head, aside from the full amp experience. (That being said Hunters, please do share the info on where you got this BBBJ.)

Bysshe
12-16-02, 15:56
For anyone who's interested: the table shower at ICM (M Street) is now working. This adds a bit to the overall experience.

It's still rub and tug only, of course.

Bysshe

TrashMan
12-16-02, 23:06
SW Cruiser,

DC as I'm sure you know is not like Baltimore where you can semi-easily find a girl mid day as they tend to all emerge at once very late at night in just a few concentrated areas. However, I have seen girls infrequently out along New york Ave by the Texaco and back to the right in that section behind the Texaco but they are pretty rough and all black girls if that's an issue for you.

I'm sure that you can find a stray girl or two down near the river area in Anacostia and SWest sections but you may not be made to feel very welcome in those areas depending on your race.

Let us know if you discover anything different.

WiseBorn
12-17-02, 02:18
if you have time you can go to the Louis Rouge and get some number from them to party in the daytime most are down for that.

WiseBorn
12-18-02, 00:48
West Virginia ave. near Galludet University is the closest thing to a 24 hour track in the area

Globetrotter
12-19-02, 02:37
Wiseborn

What and where is the Louis Rouge?

Vagringo
12-19-02, 03:34
Iwent by lrouge tonite it looks like abc notices are on the door maybe cloced for a while. this strip club is near mci around 4th street

Vagringo
12-19-02, 03:40
hey this might be the same cindy from 520she is one not to forget very well worth it . va gringo here from va and peru post pretty good on the strip club and amp scene in metro area

marypair
12-20-02, 12:15
I'm looking for a massage parlor that provides full-service (at least BJ) that is in a safe place (safe from busts and scary situations) and is relatively affordable with good-looking girls. Anybody know of a safe, clean incall where the girls are fun in the DC area that is open around lunch?

Looking forward to a response.

TonydaSnake
12-22-02, 02:57
Went to 7th street and Ney York tonight after striking out at two NoVa amps earlier in the day. One amp was busy and one must have been busted since there used to be four or five girls, but one today and I couldn't see her before paying. No thanks.

Anyways, went to 7th early(9pm) not expecting much action until later. Saw nothing happening and was ready to move on when I saw a reasonably cute black girl walking with man, maybe pimp. She gave me secong look and came over and the dude kept walking. I told her it was a bit early in the night, but how much for everything including anal. $25 she says so I was immediately suspicious (tranny?, crack ho, diseased?); but she was friendly, seemed wholesome so I went for it. We parked in my car and she delivered the goods! She has big tits, large nipples, and really good ass (bit of a gut though). Extremely friendly, took plenty of time, I almost came from the BJ, but poke her in the butt to finish. Intelligent lady, and one of those "good" experiences that happen sometime with the SW scene. Got her pager#, gave her$40., and view her as an excellent contingency hump for dog days to come...

kraft22
12-22-02, 16:08
Tony,

Which AMP are you referring to below with just one girl?
I don't want to waste my time here.

From earlier post:
"One amp was busy and one must have been busted since there used to be four or five girls, but one today and I couldn't see her before paying"

MSJ44
12-22-02, 17:06
Tonydasnake:

Sounds like a great find! Did you get a sense if she is out much? Would love to hook-up w/ that? Could you back channel the pager # to me? I at marcsj444@yahoo.com.

Any future contact number that i get that are worthy, I will gladly pass your way.

Thanks.

MJ



Originally posted by tonydasnake
Went to 7th street and Ney York tonight after striking out at two NoVa amps earlier in the day. One amp was busy and one must have been busted since there used to be four or five girls, but one today and I couldn't see her before paying. No thanks.

Anyways, went to 7th early(9pm) not expecting much action until later. Saw nothing happening and was ready to move on when I saw a reasonably cute black girl walking with man, maybe pimp. She gave me secong look and came over and the dude kept walking. I told her it was a bit early in the night, but how much for everything including anal. $25 she says so I was immediately suspicious (tranny?, crack ho, diseased?); but she was friendly, seemed wholesome so I went for it. We parked in my car and she delivered the goods! She has big tits, large nipples, and really good ass (bit of a gut though). Extremely friendly, took plenty of time, I almost came from the BJ, but poke her in the butt to finish. Intelligent lady, and one of those "good" experiences that happen sometime with the SW scene. Got her pager#, gave her$40., and view her as an excellent contingency hump for dog days to come...

TrashMan
12-22-02, 23:35
Went prowling last night, starting in Baltimore Block where I got seriously shitfaced but managed to make it back to DC. By that time, I had sobered up sufficiently to realize that it was time to go get laid. Picked up a copy of the City Paper and scanned for any fresh meat. Saw a few and decided to try them. Got one in Silver Spring and we arranged to meet at her place at 9pm. Arrived and keyed her number into the buzzer for entrance and she told me she was running behind, could I come back in 30 minutes. I went back to the car and scanned the ads some more and picked out another as backup, called and set up for 10pm in DC. By this time 30 minutes had passed so I went back in and this time went to her apartment. Now by all this time, I had to take a wicked piss so the first thing I did upon entering was ask for the bathroom. I went in, closed the door and while pissing a long glorious piss, took stock of the situation. There was a dog in the place, barking it's ass off annoyingly and upon retrospect, I felt that if the old broad that answered the door expected me to pay to fuck her, she was sadly mistaken! Finshed my piss, and went down the hallway to the bedroom where she was sitting expectantly on the bed. I said to her " So, uh, are you it? " She responds affirmatively to which I replied that this wasn't gonna work for me and I was leaving, sorry. She was kinda pissed and says as I am unlocking and opening the door " Oh yeah, just come in and use my bathroom and leave! " I told her thanks for the bathroom and split. Had to laugh going down the elevator about the whole thing.
So...off to 10PM rendevous in DC. Arrived 10 minutes late to Embassy Suites hotel at 22nd and M and went up to the room number she had given me, knocked, and she answers the door in a slip opening the door just a crack and tells me she's still in the middle of a session. Now, reight away i think to myself, man, if I was that dude, I'd be pissed and / or paranoid and I also thought to myself, if she's in the middle of a session, what's she got clothes on for? She says come back in 30 minutes. I left, knowing that based on what I saw and she was too old as well, that I would definitely not be back, not even if I had to piss again!

OK, onward, I figured what the fuck, I'll just slide over to Downtown AMP on Vermont. Wrong! They're closed. Shit! OK...I'll just go to Supra Spa on Connecticut, they're always dependable.
Do you think I could find a place to park to save my ass? Nope.

Double shit on a stick!

It was getting late so I decided to see if any of the SW's had crawled out from under their rocks yet and cruised L street. To my surprise there were a couple. Went around to make another pass and as I was going down K street side lane to make another loop, I spot a really cute very young girl with bright red and I mean like Kool Aid red hair. Wasn't sure she was working because she was just walking and she wasn't dressed like a street HO. She had on a long denim coat to her heels, but as I passed her, our eyes met and she pulled open the coat a little, revealing a white miniskirt that left nothing to the imagination and a see through top. Oh yeah, says I, she's workin'! Pulled over in in she jumps and we're off with her feeling my dick and putting my hand on her pussy sans panties!. Now that we'd been properly introduced she asked what I wanted and I just said "Hotel". Ok so off we went to her hotel, Marriot no less where we had a real good time, after which I dropped her back off at 13th and K.
I guess it just goes to show that if at first ya don't succeed, try, try again.

TonydaSnake
12-23-02, 00:15
Kraft22,

AMP with one girl is at 5105m Backlick road (KWP therapeudic). Went by tonight to check adress and sign on door says "closed for renvations." I had a couple good experiences there three months ago, and now it's gone!

to msj44,

I'll email you the girl's pager since she was very willing I send folks her way. Maybe we can exchange info down the road as you said...!

Vagringo
12-23-02, 05:35
damn trash you got alot of patience. if all else fails 520 is always open great girls allmost 9--10-but you always seem to get laid no matter what.

Mighty Spearsman
12-23-02, 14:26
Dear TrashMan:

Thanks for your great post! I'm glad to read that you ended up with a happy ending to the evening.

Reading your post inspired me to make a report on a bad experience about a month ago. While in DC for a business trip, my work day finished early (1 p.m.) so I picked up the City Paper to check out the ads for a lunchtime special. Found an ad that advertised incall featuring "Swedish Massage, prostate massage, etc." by someone named Loretta. Called the number, which was answered by someone who spoke English with a sexy European accent. I assumed that she was one of the young Russian cuties who were doing business in DC, so I asked for her address and was told to go to the M Street Apartments, corner of 12th & M, N.W.

Walked over, got buzzed in, up the elevator to the door and knocked when who opened the door but AAAAAH!!!!! someone my grandmother's age, all white hair, fat, in skimpy lingerie showing more than I ever wanted to see. Luckily I was smart enough to say "oops, I don't have enough money, I forgot to go to the ATM" then ran back down the hall and out of the building. The afternoon was saved by walking over to Downtown Spa for a great afternoon session.

It's amazing that someone that age would even consider working in the sex trade, or that she'd have any customers. Who knows, maybe she changes her City Paper Ad each week to lure in new suckers. I'm just glad that this misadventure didn't cost me anything except some time wasted.

So guys, if you're told to go to 12th & M, beware!!!

kraft22
12-23-02, 19:09
Mighty Spearsman / Trashman,

What am I missing in the city paper?
I normally look through it online in the Health & Wellness classifieds.
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/class/health_and_wellness.html
There are normally a few ads for massage. Is this the section I should be hunting in ?

Thanks in advance.

TonydaSnake
12-23-02, 21:41
kraft22,

you want a section of the city paper called "adult entertainment" (I believe) which list amps as well as pimp services and freelancers-maybe 40-50 entries on average...

everybody, let's try to give maximum detail in our post so we can maximize the effectiveness of the forum. I am weak in this regard myself so this is self critisizm as well!

lets give address, names and numbers when appropriate, so we can go out there and improve our chances without first posting to ask others when, where, how and why?

Thanks everyone!

balabon38
12-23-02, 21:57
there is also AMP block in SPORT section of the Wash Post every day except Sun. In City Paper see also ads on the side of the page where is Adult services printed. There is new AMP ad in the last issue at 10 R str. NE Wash DC

TrashMan
12-24-02, 02:02
Yes indeedy, I am picky so I am patient! All good things come to he who waits. She was so cute, firm, young and slender and, oh yes...a good little ****!

Vagringo...what is 520? I assume an amp and that's the address?
Please let me know. I have always gotten the extra goods from Paula at Downtown and have always been pleased with any of the Supra girls. Late at night I tend to head over to Accufitness on MacArthur for a nice quiet sort of close to home session.
The 1oth street shops have always been good but less consistent and not so great for late night.

Kraft...you will not find the info you seek reading City Paper online. Pick one up for free at most downtown bookstores and even in the burbs and look toward the back under Adult Services

Vagringo
12-24-02, 11:06
hey trash man I think its on 9th near hard rock I usta go after watching games at mci ..been a dozen times

Vagringo
12-25-02, 00:21
hey its royal on 10th went today older lady in 40s but not bad f/s but it usualyhot younger kor girls was suprised I started in dumfries va new place opened in nov reg massage and hand job later vagringo

SWCruiser
12-25-02, 02:56
Tonydasnake:

Thanks for your contris to this board!

Like MSJ44, I'm also interested in getting this girls pager #, and will be happy to share any scores I find. Back channel me at swcruiser@hotmail.com.

Thanks.

Cruis

traveler
12-26-02, 17:39
[QUOTE]Originally posted by TrashMan
[i]Yes indeedy, I am picky so I am patient! All good things come to he who waits. She was so cute, firm, young and slender and, oh yes...a good little ****!

Trashman, shame on you. You had your chance to bring a little joy into the world for someone and you passed up the opportunity. You know that the ugly ones appreciate it more. Why, I've even had them get up and thank me! I bet that cute little pooty didn't say thanks! Traveler.

TrashMan
12-26-02, 17:46
Traveler, you continue to impress me with your wisdom. You are right, the cute little pootie did not thank me properly as you point out and I have had some shall we say less than Playboy quality girls in my time who were much more appreciative.
It wasn't looks as much in this case that kept me hunting, it was llack of looks combined with age greater than half my own which is a violation of a solemn oath of old male sluts everywhere.

traveler
12-26-02, 20:22
Trashman, an "age greater than half my own" is definitely an OLD woman. But I would bet that the looks was the greater of the combination that sent you searching. I've had some good looking "older" women who could knock your socks off. But you're right, Old AND ugly just doesn't hack it. But remember, we need to share our sluttyness from time to time with those in need. Traveler

Randy Farang
12-26-02, 22:22
To quote an older gentleman, who would have undoubtedly been an ardent member of this board, "I prefer the older ones because they don't yell, they don't swell, they don't tell, and they're grateful as hell" (Ben Franklin - 1785) A Happy New Year to All. Randy

Phantom44
12-27-02, 02:36
Well Boys, the SW were out in force tonight in DC. Finally some fine looking white girls, and even found an Asian. I picked her up off of K between 15th and CT ave. and we did our thing she was the best I've had ever. She said there are bunch of girls from NJ, and some from Boston working the weekends in DC. They charge too much though, ever girl I saw was between 7-9, which you all know for DC is way high. They are younger than before too, late teens early twenties.

I also drove around 10th, 11th and 12th streets NW, saw one girl who looked great real girl next door, but was too slow. I've noticed a small group of girls in that area who are younger and aren't cracked, or heroined out, which is a plus.


For my first trip back into the DC SW scene in about 3 months, i give it an 8.

Phantom44
12-27-02, 02:42
To all the Veterans out there...does anyone know about the cat houses that used to be out in suburban MD and rural VA? Do they still exist? If they do I would love to find one...

Globetrotter
12-27-02, 12:07
Phantom,

What time of the day did you get lucky with the Asian girl and how much did it cost you? Did you get any contact info on her that you could share with us. Where on 10th, 11th and 12th Streets did you spot those other girls you mentioned?

Anyone know if there's anything worthwhile going on during the daytime with SW in DC that would make the trip worthwhile?

Phantom44
12-27-02, 19:01
I picked her up around 10:00-11:00 pm just before the midnight change over of LE. The girls next door are above m and below rhode island, around where the crack heads used to be...


the asian girls name is Lee

202-246-7222

she really knows how to shake her ass, she has a big rack, and nice round ass...

TrashMan
12-27-02, 23:28
Feeling horny and lazy, I decided to opt for a sure thing and drop in for a little massage therapy at CPHC. Never a disapointment and always something pleasantly unexpected, I got a girl named Sue or Soo, whatever the spelling, she was just fine. About an 8 in looks and body probably mid to late 20's. Nice relaxing shower with lots of giggles and squeezes of my hard on while soaping and drying off. Took a pass as usual on the sauna, waste of time and too hot for me. Back the room for a pretty fair and relaxing massage for a little bit until I made it abundantly clear I wanted more now, not later. She grinned and zipped out for the "everything?" package and was back in a flash, stripping as she went. Up onto the table for a really sensuous nipple and tongue bath my whole length before burrowing her tongue deep in my asshole for a great asian delight session while stroking my cock and balls with both hands. I performed the flip and sat up and sucked her nipples and fingered her and then lay down for more of her attentions. She went right to work on my cock with great deep throat action that she alternated with sucking my toes! Totally unexpected but very sensual. Had her spin around so I could eat her while she sucked and we had some great 69 fun. Finally I decided to fuck her and she climbed up for a little cowgirl while I sucked her nipples and neck. I got up and she laid on her back but I knew that their tables were just the right height and wide enough for stand up slammin' so I spun her sideways, hauled her legs stright up and put them on my shoulders and buried deep and stood there ball slappin' her ass like crazy until I came really good.

Vagringo
12-29-02, 07:54
while in dc driving from. club i saw a red head sw with redhair and red plattform heels whats her deal around 14 and k very hot

TrashMan
01-03-03, 02:15
If her hair was really red like Kool Aid red and she was pretty young with very white skin, that's the little red head I picked up and did in her hotel room a few weeks back that I posted on.

WiseBorn
01-05-03, 19:34
Originally posted by vagringo
hey trash man I think its on 9th near hard rock I usta go after watching games at mci ..been a dozen times

yup been there many times myself pretty well run place

WiseBorn
01-05-03, 19:36
Originally posted by TrashMan
If her hair was really red like Kool Aid red and she was pretty young with very white skin, that's the little red head I picked up and did in her hotel room a few weeks back that I posted on.

since the weather's been shitty the SW have been workin out of the usual hotels near the tracks they have a understanding with the cops at the super eight

TrashMan
01-08-03, 00:53
Wise,

Is that the one on the right a half block back as you head out NY Ave? I have passed by there many times and it looks ripe for SW's and I often see a lot of foot traffic in the area. Are they the same type girls I mentioned seeing and doing in the downtown L street area? I have never seen many girls and only black girls at the Texaco area farther out NY ave. Sorry, but I like white chicks and latinas better.

WiseBorn
01-08-03, 01:22
Originally posted by TrashMan
Wise,

Is that the one on the right a half block back as you head out NY Ave? I have passed by there many times and it looks ripe for SW's and I often see a lot of foot traffic in the area. Are they the same type girls I mentioned seeing and doing in the downtown L street area? I have never seen many girls and only black girls at the Texaco area farther out NY ave. Sorry, but I like white chicks and latinas better.

yup that's where most of the Downtown girls head to when the cops move them off the track, if you drive in there with a SW who has a room there you'll have no problems if you go straight to the room and don't linger or you can walk in a pick out any SW that happens to be there you're right the majority are Black or Latina but there's occasionally a white girl there. here's the number of a white chick Mystery although I a have never seen her on the track and she conducts herself like an escort make no mistake pay the track price Mystery (571) 330-2761 fellas don't mess this up by overpaying

WiseBorn
01-08-03, 01:30
One more thing the city paper internet, outcall agencies, etc are being used by former and current SW looking to get off the track and charge higher prices. nowadays most SW's have a cellphone# and they using to communicate with dates to tell exactly where they are at the time

TrashMan
01-08-03, 23:56
Wise my friend, thanks for the info. It confirms what I suspected. Have you had any luck with simply cruising ear the hotel along those back streets when the girls have been chased inside?

Also what time have you sen them?

You're right about the City Paper ads being a transition ground for some SW's trying to take it off the street and up a notch but I think very few successfuly make that transition. Take the red head young thing I mentioned recently. She was definitely what I call escort quality but yet out on the streets. Why? Because she's doing drugs. That's what most of the SW's have in common and why they are not inside is because they're junkies too bad and have to keep hustling too hard and stay on the move and as such don't tend to really look for or obtain quality regular customers.
I do see one girl that I have mentioned here Shanna who does whatever I want the way I want it and is fun and charges me discount rates because I'm one of her regulars, but she's a user you can tell just not so bad yet that she can't hold it together but she'll get there you can bet on that they all do unfortunately