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  1. #1008
    Quote Originally Posted by Hungryeye  [View Original Post]
    My play time is usually during office hours so I'm limited. When she is late an hour I've lost an hour pay so my date just cost me double. I respect a girls time and will bust my ass to be on time I fully expect treated the same. IF I'm late I accept the fact I've fucked up her schedule and will take a short date at my expense.

    I seldom have a problem with regulars once they know I'm serious about time.

    However there are some that don't care about your time, I never book them again.
    After being stood up on a couple of occasions (and after waiting for 25-30 minutes), I've decided that I'm only giving them 10 minutes and then I leave.

  2. #1007
    Quote Originally Posted by FishHooks  [View Original Post]
    Maybe you could tell us which provider? Geesh.
    Holly. It was at her new location. Richie just posted a review on the backpage section of run ins with her neighbors as well.

  3. #1006
    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeFanatic  [View Original Post]
    Anyone had any confrontations with a neighbor as you were leaving a provider's incall? I just recently had a run in with one. I was leaving the incall, and I noticed someone was following me from their house (not the provider's, but the neighbor's), back to my car. They were far enough back that I deemed they weren't a threat, and I was able to safely get into my car. As I was leaving, they were standing in the middle of the street and I had to drive around them to get by. I drove by, and the dude picks up something that looked like an empty snapple jar or an empty 40, and heaves it at my car as I'm driving away. The thing shattered against my back windshield, luckily it didn't break anything (other than the jar, so their was glass everywhere). I kept driving, as I didn't want to escalate the situation, but I wondered if anyone had any similar stories?
    Maybe you could tell us which provider? Geesh.

  4. #1005

    Time limits. Incall

    My play time is usually during office hours so I'm limited. When she is late an hour I've lost an hour pay so my date just cost me double. I respect a girls time and will bust my ass to be on time I fully expect treated the same. IF I'm late I accept the fact I've fucked up her schedule and will take a short date at my expense.

    I seldom have a problem with regulars once they know I'm serious about time.

    However there are some that don't care about your time, I never book them again.

  5. #1004

    Angry Neighbors

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeFanatic  [View Original Post]
    Anyone had any confrontations with a neighbor as you were leaving a provider's incall? I just recently had a run in with one. I was leaving the incall, and I noticed someone was following me from their house (not the provider's, but the neighbor's), back to my car. They were far enough back that I deemed they weren't a threat, and I was able to safely get into my car. As I was leaving, they were standing in the middle of the street and I had to drive around them to get by. I drove by, and the dude picks up something that looked like an empty snapple jar or an empty 40, and heaves it at my car as I'm driving away. The thing shattered against my back windshield, luckily it didn't break anything (other than the jar, so their was glass everywhere). I kept driving, as I didn't want to escalate the situation, but I wondered if anyone had any similar stories?
    I know man. Yep. Happened to me. I was at the location about 9:30 pm ish.

  6. #1003
    Anyone had any confrontations with a neighbor as you were leaving a provider's incall? I just recently had a run in with one. I was leaving the incall, and I noticed someone was following me from their house (not the provider's, but the neighbor's), back to my car. They were far enough back that I deemed they weren't a threat, and I was able to safely get into my car. As I was leaving, they were standing in the middle of the street and I had to drive around them to get by. I drove by, and the dude picks up something that looked like an empty snapple jar or an empty 40, and heaves it at my car as I'm driving away. The thing shattered against my back windshield, luckily it didn't break anything (other than the jar, so their was glass everywhere). I kept driving, as I didn't want to escalate the situation, but I wondered if anyone had any similar stories?

  7. #1002

    Time limits

    Each of us seems to have reached a similar strategy by a slightly different route. I now have a 10 minutes rule. I generally tell them that upfront. My time is very valuable and in short supply. A 15 minute delay on their end can jeopardize the entire enterprise. If they start with the excuses. Phone, car, roommate bullshit. I generally pull the plug. Sometimes I make exceptions but I try to adhere to the regime. I also make it clear, if you're late, no tip. That provides an incentive. My regulars have learned that I value promptness. I see a few providers who have a reputation for making guys wait for over an hour; they never do it with me because I drive away / cancel the appointment. I've been cursed out a number of times, but to my way of thinking, the guy is paying for good service and shouldn't have to tolerate such disrespect for his time. If you don't ever let it start, then it tends to stay on a good track. Again I have to be flexible with these girls. Nonetheless, my experience is that their poor time management skills often bleed over into performance in bed. Not always; there are some exceptions. But over the years I've detected a correlation between a good start to the party and a stellar ending. I'd rather miss out on the entire experience than begin the situation with a bumpy road.

  8. #1001

    Time

    Quote Originally Posted by Twisted36  [View Original Post]
    So I just wanted to get some other opinions from mongers on how long they are willing to give a provider to show up for outcall or how long you will wait on incall.
    I agree that context is everything. For out, as long as they communicate well with me, and I have other tasks to keep me occupied, I'll wait indefinitely. But if they are unclear, flaky, and don't answer straight questions with good answers, forget about it. I may try to turn things around if they play games, like, "It sounds like you're having a rough day, hon. I wouldn't want you to get in a rush and drive all stressed out to get to me. Why don't we try another time when you have a bit less going on?" without defining when and where that time will be.

    For in, they're good if they communicate well and get to me before I get in the car or leave to get there. Once I have arrived, they have 10-20 minutes to respond max, depending on the situation. I will be upfront with them about this if it sounds like it may be a potential problem.

    If at anytime they are rude, flaky, manipulative, or non-responsive within a reasonable amount of time, forget about it. I owe them nothing. I am an extremely patient person, and when I start to feel impatient, that's usually a sign that most people would have cancelled a long time ago. I don't dwell on it and move on, I won't allow it to get to the point where it ruins my day (and especially, my sleep). And I report it here, concisely.

  9. #1000
    Quote Originally Posted by GentleGiant43  [View Original Post]
    A reg or newbie. 30 minutes tops!

    And that's with communication. Unless it's a reg that I really trust (few and far between) with a legitimate excuse. We've all heard the same BS my phone died, I fell asleep, blah, blah, blah, usually that means someone else hit me up for incall or outcall and I try to slip in a QV before I came to see you or the dope made me nod off and I don't fall for any of it. I don't deal with addicts, they get cut off real quick and I don't deal with those who try to slip one in before they come see me. I actually had two Regs try that with me. I'm not an idiot I called them out on it and eventually they both admitted it. I stop that s* and cut them off real quick. Some of you guys don't care but I do. I let them know that when we meet from the very beginning. We have a date, you meet me when we schedule and I don't give a s* who calls you, how much they offer you. If you are a reg with me you meet me when we agree. One guy offering you double my money for a one-time qv, or me for a visit every weekend for months. Which is more important? Most of these girls have no business sense. Most of these girls want to take the quick money. So you have to cut them off. How else will they ever learn.
    The same for me they have a 30 minute window to arrive on an Outcall after they have texted or called me and say on their way. Granted that fluctuates a little if their further away than 30, but you get the gist. If they text me with some story I just politely let them know maybe another time which in my language means probably will not be calling her again. For me it is about respecting my time, needs and my importance in her rounds as it kind of turns my engine off if I get a vibe that another mongers cash is better than mine TBH if so than let him pick up more tabs if his wallet is more important than mine haha.

  10. #999

    It was a UTR's friend

    Quote Originally Posted by Bowtie  [View Original Post]
    Max an hour only with regular that gave text or call updates. Newbie Allie I gave 25 min since she gave me several text updates. She Wes in the car 23 min after agreed time. Explained that won't happen again. In curious who it was twisted. Care to pm?
    It was a friend of a UTR that I have been seeing for off and on for a couple years. I have done a couple of duo dates and her friend hit me up and wanted to do a solo date. Quickly agreed on time and all of the other details. About a half hour before the agreed upon time she texts and says she is on her way. Then silence. I send a couple of texts and still silence. So I just write it off as she decided not to come. So about 90 minutes later I get a text from her that she is about ten minutes away. So this is about 3 am and we were supposed to meet up at midnight. I respond with "whatever". Literally, that was my entire response. So I roll over and go back to sleep. About an hour later I get another text from her saying she is 10 minutes away. My response this time is forget it, you are 4 hours late and I am no longer in the mood to see you. I told her that she wasted enough of my time that she should compensate me for wasting my time. Then she launched into a sob story of my phone this, my car that, my text app this and she needs this and it goes on and on. Finally I just told her that being on time and honest is an important part of business and that there was no way I was seeing her that morning. After a few more angry texts from her I turned my ringer off and went back to sleeping. So my UTR then asked me what happened a couple days later and I told her the whole story. Of course my version and her friends version were vastly different. I told her she was welcome to come read every text message from our first to last and she could see every time stamp to prove her friend was totally lying about how it went down. Needless to say her friend had inadvertently deleted our entire exchange. So that was my Friday night and Saturday morning a couple of weeks back. It was quite a shame as the girl is really good in bed and is a true tight spinner. But no way was I going to let her get away with some BS like that. This happened to me with another far more well known provider recently as well. She was more understanding of my cancelling on her after a few hours of being late. The more well known provider was one of the 2 sisters that have been discussed on her numerous times.

  11. #998

    How long

    Quote Originally Posted by Twisted36  [View Original Post]
    So I just wanted to get some other opinions from mongers on how long they are willing to give a provider to show up for outcall or how long you will wait on incall. I had a provider the other day get all kinds of pissed off when I told her I was cancelling on her when she was over 4 hours past the time she originally said she would be to me. To be honest after hour 3 I just thought she had decided to blow me off. So she sends me a text at about 4 am when our original meet time was midnight. I told her in a polite manner that I was no longer interested in seeing her and man did she go off. She couldn't fathom how I could be so mean and heartless. I told her to buy a watch and learn to be on time or at least close to it and if she was going to be late a reasonable explanation and a text or 2 along the way would do wonders. What are your thoughts?
    A reg or newbie. 30 minutes tops!

    And that's with communication. Unless it's a reg that I really trust (few and far between) with a legitimate excuse. We've all heard the same BS my phone died, I fell asleep, blah, blah, blah, usually that means someone else hit me up for incall or outcall and I try to slip in a QV before I came to see you or the dope made me nod off and I don't fall for any of it. I don't deal with addicts, they get cut off real quick and I don't deal with those who try to slip one in before they come see me. I actually had two Regs try that with me. I'm not an idiot I called them out on it and eventually they both admitted it. I stop that s* and cut them off real quick. Some of you guys don't care but I do. I let them know that when we meet from the very beginning. We have a date, you meet me when we schedule and I don't give a s* who calls you, how much they offer you. If you are a reg with me you meet me when we agree. One guy offering you double my money for a one-time qv, or me for a visit every weekend for months. Which is more important? Most of these girls have no business sense. Most of these girls want to take the quick money. So you have to cut them off. How else will they ever learn.

  12. #997

    4 hours?

    Max an hour only with regular that gave text or call updates. Newbie Allie I gave 25 min since she gave me several text updates. She Wes in the car 23 min after agreed time. Explained that won't happen again. In curious who it was twisted. Care to pm?

    Quote Originally Posted by Twisted36  [View Original Post]
    So I just wanted to get some other opinions from mongers on how long they are willing to give a provider to show up for outcall or how long you will wait on incall. I had a provider the other day get all kinds of pissed off when I told her I was cancelling on her when she was over 4 hours past the time she originally said she would be to me. To be honest after hour 3 I just thought she had decided to blow me off. So she sends me a text at about 4 am when our original meet time was midnight. I told her in a polite manner that I was no longer interested in seeing her and man did she go off. She couldn't fathom how I could be so mean and heartless. I told her to buy a watch and learn to be on time or at least close to it and if she was going to be late a reasonable explanation and a text or 2 along the way would do wonders. What are your thoughts?

  13. #996

    How Long to wait

    Your more patient than I. 20 to 30 if they are really hot, 10 to 20 if they are average. This is out call times. May extend if they text or call.

    In call 10 to 15 min. May be extended If they call or text. I'm not sitting in the car too long. Depends on the area. If they are more than that probably overbooked and I don't want to see the guy that just finished. May extend a little with a somewhat believable text or call.

    As long as we mongers allow this golden pussy syndrome they will never be required to provide good customer service. If we would all stick to our guns this would stop.

    Be polite and courteous to the ladies but my time is valuable. Who wags the tail, the dog or the tail? Just my thoughts though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Twisted36  [View Original Post]
    So I just wanted to get some other opinions from mongers on how long they are willing to give a provider to show up for outcall or how long you will wait on incall. I had a provider the other day get all kinds of pissed off when I told her I was cancelling on her when she was over 4 hours past the time she originally said she would be to me. To be honest after hour 3 I just thought she had decided to blow me off. So she sends me a text at about 4 am when our original meet time was midnight. I told her in a polite manner that I was no longer interested in seeing her and man did she go off. She couldn't fathom how I could be so mean and heartless. I told her to buy a watch and learn to be on time or at least close to it and if she was going to be late a reasonable explanation and a text or 2 along the way would do wonders. What are your thoughts?

  14. #995
    Quote Originally Posted by Twisted36  [View Original Post]
    So I just wanted to get some other opinions from mongers on how long they are willing to give a provider to show up for outcall or how long you will wait on incall. I had a provider the other day get all kinds of pissed off when I told her I was cancelling on her when she was over 4 hours past the time she originally said she would be to me. To be honest after hour 3 I just thought she had decided to blow me off. So she sends me a text at about 4 am when our original meet time was midnight. I told her in a polite manner that I was no longer interested in seeing her and man did she go off. She couldn't fathom how I could be so mean and heartless. I told her to buy a watch and learn to be on time or at least close to it and if she was going to be late a reasonable explanation and a text or 2 along the way would do wonders. What are your thoughts?
    The context is important. If she's being communicative with me and at least bothering to make excuses I'm very flexible. I understand the chaotic nature of this stuff. If she's seeing a half a dozen clients while working her way to my side of town? Fuck that, totally unacceptable. If I've seen her before and she flakes I'm pretty understanding, but I also tend to not see someone repeatedly if they're super flaky. I'd much rather have a provider show up 3 hours late and take their time and be accommodating than show up promptly and rush job me too.

  15. #994

    Patience is not always a virture

    Personally, I don't do alot of outcalls but I say wait about 1 hour, unless I know them. Then I text to get another eta. If no response, or over another hour. I pass, with one text. Sorry, but I am going to pass. Incalls I only wait 15 minutes. Text a? IF no response within 5 minutes. I pass and send the text. Sorry, I am going to pass. No need to get into an argument. You will probably upset them and they may cut you off. Oh well. On to the next one.

    A lot of providers schedule back to back appointments. Min-Max thing. As we get things set up, I usually have a discussion about I don't play around, I hope they don't either. No BS, please. Some days when I try to do incalls I have jumped around to 3 different providers. Just to have them contact me hours later and say something like where are you? I just let them know I came, I call, no answer. I left.

    Quote Originally Posted by Twisted36  [View Original Post]
    So I just wanted to get some other opinions from mongers on how long they are willing to give a provider to show up for outcall or how long you will wait on incall. I had a provider the other day get all kinds of pissed off when I told her I was cancelling on her when she was over 4 hours past the time she originally said she would be to me. To be honest after hour 3 I just thought she had decided to blow me off. So she sends me a text at about 4 am when our original meet time was midnight. I told her in a polite manner that I was no longer interested in seeing her and man did she go off. She couldn't fathom how I could be so mean and heartless. I told her to buy a watch and learn to be on time or at least close to it and if she was going to be late a reasonable explanation and a text or 2 along the way would do wonders. What are your thoughts?

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