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  1. #1055
    BTW, if you can get out of the city and are ok with more average women, you can definitely find some that aren't very active. One said that she hasn't met any guys because they all treat her like a prostitute and talk to her for a week and disappear. But I think I like having these non-pros to get together with. Less likely they will be burned out and drugged out. And I do like helping them with some cash, because many are students or just need to pay the bills. They probably try harder in bed and don't hate men from all the asshole mongers that they encounter every day.

    And the average women aren't worth a 90 min drive but if you like to travel and take overnight or weekend trips anyway, then just a great way to spice up your adventures. Damn I wish I would have thought of this a few months ago when I was on a long road trip. . just didn't occur to me though.

  2. #1054
    Quote Originally Posted by Leep12  [View Original Post]
    Lot of girls just term a meeting an "arrangement" , the term "meeting" is probably alright also. Different men are after different things as are the women. I never discuss money unless they bring it up and if it seems like all they want to talk about and are looking at monthly $ then I ditch them. The key is to be personable and cool and funny and get them to like you and have confidence in you. These are usually girls wanting real men not boys, you need to take the lead. Seems like they all know the normal rates are 2-300. The most any girl asked me for was 400 per meet.

    In 3 of the 10 chicks I have bagged from SA in the past 3 months we didn't even discuss money and I gave them what I wanted after the session and I was fair with them. I never asked them for their number but if we had a bit of chat going I would offer my direct burner#, sometimes they would then leave me their number to contact. These girls are not pros and nothing like escorts or BP girls.

    The key for me was to get them to dinner then they have some skin in the game and figure they might as well get laid and get some cash. If you go into it willing to pay 2-3 plus the room you will be fine. I couple of my girls can host, but most do not.
    Thanks for the info. That is very surprising that 3 out of 10 didn't even bring it up. I figure I should get it out of the way, so they won't have to worry about it during the session and also so I won't risk upsetting some psychobitch who expects five hundy. I asked one who was new to it what she thought was appropriate and she said "$400. Or whatever you are ok with". So I cut that in half really quick. But now thinking I should just bring up a reasonable number first. And I'm not trying to lowball, them and I honestly offer what I think they are worth, both to me and on the SA market. A 21 why / o piece of ass gets a different offer than a 45 why / o chunky gal. So far, only one out of five rejected my offer, outright. I also am trying to offer Amazon gift cards, sometimes instead of cash. But I get if their rent is due and they need $$.

    And I think "visit" is the way to go with the terminology. I said "meeting" one time and a woman thought I wanted to pay for our first public meeting and I said no way. I don't plan to take any to dinner, but I will meet in public. I'm just a bit in odd in that I have never enjoyed eating out that much, so not going to bother with that. I figure can meet in public and exchange some pleasantries and go back to my room. I've only had a couple of women bail after I've done this in the past. And talking regular dating site women. With that $ carrot on the stick, very few are going to get cold feet in this case, especially after they've seen my pics (from far away and a few years ago) and texted with me a good bit. More likely, they will take one for the team and get some cash to buy their kids some shoes. Or buy some perfume or whatever.

    I'm just using a textnow.com number and I get their # and message them that way. I'll definitely use a burner phone for any voicecalls though. And of course being careful with my wording during negotiations and make it clear that I'm offering them a gift to help them in return for hanging out with me. Not in return for any sexual favors. Of course.

    I have a couple of them lined up for this week if it works out. Out of state, but not that far where I wanted to visit anyway. I just spent a few hours messaging scores of SA ladies in probably 50 mile radius from where I will be. In the past, I've taken these trips and done 2 or 3 in one day and there really is diminishing returns. The first one is great and then just a dropoff in excitement for the others. One a day is best, although sometimes just got to monger to excess. I have some decent metro ATL prospects as well.

    Anyway, I know from experience that many of these women flake out, so not congratulating myself yet. But could be some fun times ahead.

  3. #1053

    SA protocol

    Quote Originally Posted by PeterJohnson  [View Original Post]
    Ok new to SA, but been mongering for many years, so just trying to figure out what is normal etiquette in this new SD realm. When you guys are moving things forward, at what point do you ask how much they want for a session? And is it called a "meeting" or I forget the proper term.

    And do you ask this on SA chat or do you do that via text with burner phone, etc? I'm not sure if I should bother getting their # if they are asking more than I want to help them out with, but then again, maybe not great to be discussing $$$ on SA. Then again, as long as no sex is mentioned, the not sure if it matters.

    Thanks for the help and I need to read that entire Richmond thread and read this one from the beginning for some additional tips.
    Lot of girls just term a meeting an "arrangement" , the term "meeting" is probably alright also. Different men are after different things as are the women. I never discuss money unless they bring it up and if it seems like all they want to talk about and are looking at monthly $ then I ditch them. The key is to be personable and cool and funny and get them to like you and have confidence in you. These are usually girls wanting real men not boys, you need to take the lead. Seems like they all know the normal rates are 2-300. The most any girl asked me for was 400 per meet.

    In 3 of the 10 chicks I have bagged from SA in the past 3 months we didn't even discuss money and I gave them what I wanted after the session and I was fair with them. I never asked them for their number but if we had a bit of chat going I would offer my direct burner#, sometimes they would then leave me their number to contact. These girls are not pros and nothing like escorts or BP girls.

    The key for me was to get them to dinner then they have some skin in the game and figure they might as well get laid and get some cash. If you go into it willing to pay 2-3 plus the room you will be fine. I couple of my girls can host, but most do not.

  4. #1052
    Quote Originally Posted by AtlCobra98  [View Original Post]
    Slasha is a BBW who needs a little love and attention (and help). Great personality. Likes to kiss. Really works hard to please. If you don't mind a girl with some extra padding then look her up. She is not a pro by any stretch of the imagination.

    I gave her 125 and was there an hour and had multiple shots on goal.

    https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...4-802ab9d77d76
    Thanks as well for the info. BTW, is there any way you could clear some of your messages from your inbox on here. I lost your email so was trying to message you. We traded a few a couple of years ago. Thanks and sorry to everyone else for the off topic message.

    I just signed up for SA and have some good prospects lined up and will hopefully be contributing some intel at some point, before long.

  5. #1051
    Quote Originally Posted by Ripvan12  [View Original Post]
    Appreciate the intel Cobra. Slasha is a cool chic from Alabama who has fallen on hard times. Had a similar experience. She has a lot of cushion in her stomach. 36 C breasts. Couple of tattoos that aren't distracting. Good BBBJ and then she rolled over awaiting me to enter for mish. She had no protection and was going to let me plow BBFS. But I didn't take her up on her offer so just continued BBBJNQNS until completion. $1. 2. As always YMMV. Ripper.
    Sounds like a good one. I have been debating some of these larger and older women on SA, because I could probably get that caliber on a dating site for "free". BUT it is a lot of time and effort in that case and you don't even know if they are going to do the deed in the end. And time is money so getting together with one of these older ones can be worth it if the price is right. $1. 2 sounds reasonable, but got to get BBBJ for sure. Thanks for the info though and may have to hit her up.

  6. #1050

    Thanks for the Intel

    Quote Originally Posted by AtlCobra98  [View Original Post]
    Slasha is a BBW who needs a little love and attention (and help). Great personality. Likes to kiss. Really works hard to please. If you don't mind a girl with some extra padding then look her up. She is not a pro by any stretch of the imagination.

    I gave her 125 and was there an hour and had multiple shots on goal.

    https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...4-802ab9d77d76
    Appreciate the intel Cobra. Slasha is a cool chic from Alabama who has fallen on hard times. Had a similar experience. She has a lot of cushion in her stomach. 36 C breasts. Couple of tattoos that aren't distracting. Good BBBJ and then she rolled over awaiting me to enter for mish. She had no protection and was going to let me plow BBFS. But I didn't take her up on her offer so just continued BBBJNQNS until completion. $1. 2. As always YMMV. Ripper.

  7. #1049

    Thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerFan72  [View Original Post]
    I've been noticing terrible lag on the site for a few weeks. I noticed it a few days before my premium expired, as well as after it expired. Its not always laggy, but it happens a lot.
    Thanks for the input mine is working fine now. I've been a member of SA for years and yes sometimes there is problems like any site. However this lasted a week for me and I just renewed my membership and was getting annoying.

    Quote Originally Posted by PConnoisseur  [View Original Post]
    I travel to Birmingham on business and have had very good success on SA there. Last week I was there and banged 4 women while I was there (the 5th woman was very young and beautiful but was not getting intimate on first meet). The best was VanessaAL on seeking arrangements. Very beautiful face but was bigger than her pictures revealed on the site. As soon as she walked in my hotel room her tongue was in my mouth and we did a great round of DFK. She was all about pleasing and she did! She had a look about her that was very sultry and definitely made my motor run. Her pussy was very wet after our DFK and the clothes came off. She was very responsive and had the first orgasm from foreplay. Her nipples are very sensitive and that helped the orgasm come prior to penetration. The sex was we, t hot and wild. If you are ok with a tall, bigger and really beautiful woman then she is perfect for you. On the other end of the spectrum I met with Haleylake from SA as well that week. She is a very small thin spinner. Not as pretty as Vanessa but her body was rockin. Nice set of enhanced boobs and her pussy was small and tasty. She sat on my face and guided her pussy on my mouth and tongue to her pleasure spots and was shaking and convulsing in no time. She then put on a hat and was on my cock without hesitation. She really takes it well. Her down sides are no kissing (until she gets to know you LOL) and was not very snuggly. She seemed to be mechanical in the that department. The condom requirement was a bit of a turn off for me. I struggle with condoms and have had great success on SA with BBFS. All in all great sex but no real closeness. Allowance was right at 200. Will definitely repeat when I return to Birmingham though. I get the sense with repeat meetings and maybe a little extra allowance the hat requirement can be waived.

    PC.
    I can vouch for VenessaAL as well being from Birmingham. Great GFE and certainly worth a visit if you're in town. Contrary to her profile she has been a member of SA for about 5 years and with different names so this is not her first rodeo. She has a gorgeous face IMO but I'm a sucker for brunettes. She is thick and she has steadily gotten heavier over the past 5 years. Should have seen her curvy body 5 years ago before adding weight. Very tall close to 6' and I'm 5'6.

    Very sweet, GFE.

    Haleylake. I've never met but sent a message a while back and after reading her first message I knew we would not click. To business like with rules so I wrote her off.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeterJohnson  [View Original Post]
    Very nice and I was thinking of doing similar with some of the cities around ATL. I used to get a few women lined up from CL and do 3 or 4 in a day sometimes (I didn't get off until the last one). But most were non-pros and some were free, some were not....good times and wish I still had that libido from a few years ago.

    So when you say "allowance" are you giving them $200 a week or is that just the amount for that session / meeting?

    How much did you give VanessaAL? She sounds excellent and thanks for sharing your experiences with both of these?
    VanessaAL I paid $300 a visit. However we went out to dinners and what not before dessert alone. Great deal for me but I know not everyone looks for that. Not sure if she is flexible but it never hurts to ask.

    Anyone else that travels to Bham / AL need info just get in touch with me and I will let you know if I have any info.

  8. #1048

    At least she is honest.

    Saw this profile pop up on SA yesterday. Reached out to her to see what she would be willing to accept as an arrangement. Then I noticed her occupation. I will report back if it goes anywhere.

    https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...1-4320650d12e5

  9. #1047

    When and where to ask how much they want for a session?

    Ok new to SA, but been mongering for many years, so just trying to figure out what is normal etiquette in this new SD realm. When you guys are moving things forward, at what point do you ask how much they want for a session? And is it called a "meeting" or I forget the proper term.

    And do you ask this on SA chat or do you do that via text with burner phone, etc? I'm not sure if I should bother getting their # if they are asking more than I want to help them out with, but then again, maybe not great to be discussing $$$ on SA. Then again, as long as no sex is mentioned, the not sure if it matters.

    Thanks for the help and I need to read that entire Richmond thread and read this one from the beginning for some additional tips.

  10. #1046
    Quote Originally Posted by PConnoisseur  [View Original Post]
    I travel to Birmingham on business and have had very good success on SA there. Last week I was there and banged 4 women while I was there (the 5th woman was very young and beautiful but was not getting intimate on first meet). The best was VanessaAL on seeking arrangements. Very beautiful face but was bigger than her pictures revealed on the site. As soon as she walked in my hotel room her tongue was in my mouth and we did a great round of DFK. She was all about pleasing and she did! She had a look about her that was very sultry and definitely made my motor run. Her pussy was very wet after our DFK and the clothes came off. She was very responsive and had the first orgasm from foreplay. Her nipples are very sensitive and that helped the orgasm come prior to penetration. The sex was we, t hot and wild. If you are ok with a tall, bigger and really beautiful woman then she is perfect for you. On the other end of the spectrum I met with Haleylake from SA as well that week. She is a very small thin spinner. Not as pretty as Vanessa but her body was rockin. Nice set of enhanced boobs and her pussy was small and tasty. She sat on my face and guided her pussy on my mouth and tongue to her pleasure spots and was shaking and convulsing in no time. She then put on a hat and was on my cock without hesitation. She really takes it well. Her down sides are no kissing (until she gets to know you LOL) and was not very snuggly. She seemed to be mechanical in the that department. The condom requirement was a bit of a turn off for me. I struggle with condoms and have had great success on SA with BBFS. All in all great sex but no real closeness. Allowance was right at 200. Will definitely repeat when I return to Birmingham though. I get the sense with repeat meetings and maybe a little extra allowance the hat requirement can be waived.

    PC.
    Very nice and I was thinking of doing similar with some of the cities around ATL. I used to get a few women lined up from CL and do 3 or 4 in a day sometimes (I didn't get off until the last one). But most were non-pros and some were free, some were not....good times and wish I still had that libido from a few years ago.

    So when you say "allowance" are you giving them $200 a week or is that just the amount for that session / meeting?

    How much did you give VanessaAL? She sounds excellent and thanks for sharing your experiences with both of these?

  11. #1045

    A new tactic?

    How many have experienced this?:

    I am now getting women that send you permission to view their private pics WITHOUT me asking. One woman did that, there was no way I'd have requested them (don't want to be rude, but certainly wasn't my type) and I responded by saying thanks, did not realize I had requested.

    I guess it's one way to get you to look at their page.

  12. #1044

    Birmingham

    I travel to Birmingham on business and have had very good success on SA there. Last week I was there and banged 4 women while I was there (the 5th woman was very young and beautiful but was not getting intimate on first meet). The best was VanessaAL on seeking arrangements. Very beautiful face but was bigger than her pictures revealed on the site. As soon as she walked in my hotel room her tongue was in my mouth and we did a great round of DFK. She was all about pleasing and she did! She had a look about her that was very sultry and definitely made my motor run. Her pussy was very wet after our DFK and the clothes came off. She was very responsive and had the first orgasm from foreplay. Her nipples are very sensitive and that helped the orgasm come prior to penetration. The sex was we, t hot and wild. If you are ok with a tall, bigger and really beautiful woman then she is perfect for you. On the other end of the spectrum I met with Haleylake from SA as well that week. She is a very small thin spinner. Not as pretty as Vanessa but her body was rockin. Nice set of enhanced boobs and her pussy was small and tasty. She sat on my face and guided her pussy on my mouth and tongue to her pleasure spots and was shaking and convulsing in no time. She then put on a hat and was on my cock without hesitation. She really takes it well. Her down sides are no kissing (until she gets to know you LOL) and was not very snuggly. She seemed to be mechanical in the that department. The condom requirement was a bit of a turn off for me. I struggle with condoms and have had great success on SA with BBFS. All in all great sex but no real closeness. Allowance was right at 200. Will definitely repeat when I return to Birmingham though. I get the sense with repeat meetings and maybe a little extra allowance the hat requirement can be waived.

    PC.

    Quote Originally Posted by MansRuin  [View Original Post]
    Hey all I'm from Birmingham, but thought I would post my question here since ATL has an active SB group. Is anyone else experiencing problems with SA? For the past week I cannot get message or use the search function. I have not noticed any mention of this and we curious. Oddly I had a friend that has a account but an expired membership log into his account from my device and it loads just fine. I've emailed SA with no response. Just wondering if I'm the oddball here? BTW I envy you Atlanta guys with your goldmine of ladies SB and escorts. Thanks a lot.

  13. #1043

    Richmond

    Quote Originally Posted by Harley32  [View Original Post]
    I share your worry about sharing pics, etc. I suggest finding a pic (google, etc) that's similar to yours and using that instead. That way you're preserving your privacy without catfishing someone. You can set it up on your profile as a private pic which you have to give someone permission to see. As far as contacts, If you're using a burner phone and a texting app, you're as safe as reasonably possible. It's hard enough getting someone to give you any way to contact them that you shouldn't make it too hard on them. Check out the Kik app as well.
    That's my one word for you. The Richmond sugar thread is the archive (even a separate archive!) of how to do this safely. You Atlanta guys just need to read that for about 3 days straight. IDK about VPN, I do all my communication on the Tor browser. Note the headers on emails include the IP address of the originating node.

  14. #1042

    Help

    I've been a contributor on Massage Reports and had a stupid question about this forum, perhaps.

    I signed up for Secret Benefits. (the one that pops up every time you click on this site).

    Why are they're no post about the girls on that site? Anyone else use that site? What are the differences in the two?

    I've met one girl and it didn't go all that well.

    I'm thinking I signed up for the wrong site.

  15. #1041

    Pic Advice

    Quote Originally Posted by PeterJohnson  [View Original Post]
    So I have plenty of experience with CL and BP girls, etc, but new to this SD site. I used a prepaid card to sign up on SeekingArrangement so no personal info there and also connect with a VPN.

    I am not really into uploading a pic of me on there. It just seems like a bad idea and are many of these women really not going to respond if they don't see a pic? I figure I can always text them one, but maybe they wouldn't want to give out their number without seeing one.

    And of course going to use a burner phone or textnow / google voice acct, but I wonder how many of them would be cool with installing Signal? That is encrypted texting with no paper trail and you can have the messages auto destruct. I don't want them to get weirded out by any of that, but both the right wing and left wing is going after all manner of consensual sex between adults, so may not hurt to be extra careful.
    I share your worry about sharing pics, etc. I suggest finding a pic (google, etc) that's similar to yours and using that instead. That way you're preserving your privacy without catfishing someone. You can set it up on your profile as a private pic which you have to give someone permission to see. As far as contacts, If you're using a burner phone and a texting app, you're as safe as reasonably possible. It's hard enough getting someone to give you any way to contact them that you shouldn't make it too hard on them. Check out the Kik app as well.

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