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  1. #18732

    Need the License First

    Quote Originally Posted by Apd30  [View Original Post]
    The word is that AKA P. Water is going to reopen sometime in June. Have not heard about what is going to happen to Canal.
    Same former owner, Kimo (no longer licensee of those two defunct establishments). I guess if can settle the liens and can get one able-bodied partner who can get one liquor license, maybe can open. One day at a time.

  2. #18731

    All KBs the Same

    Quote Originally Posted by Lefty808  [View Original Post]
    I guess it can only be a food establishment. If anyone else knows the liquor licensing laws, please let me know as I'm not 100% sure.
    Try check out the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC); it governs corporations; liquor licensing is specific to dispensing the stuff. Anyway, that's where the corruption in the KBs is and how they play musical chairs with KB establishments, making money on leasing same (illegal).

  3. #18730
    Quote Originally Posted by Lefty808  [View Original Post]
    Regarding the 3 closed Kalihi bars, two of them Canal and AKA P. Water are owned by a corporation (same corporation) and thus the liquor license is owned by the corporation. So I think if you lease these bars, they won't have a liquor license. I guess it can only be a food establishment. If anyone else knows the liquor licensing laws, please let me know as I'm not 100% sure.
    The word is that AKA P. Water is going to reopen sometime in June. Have not heard about what is going to happen to Canal.

  4. #18729

    Closed Kalihi bars

    Regarding the 3 closed Kalihi bars, two of them Canal and AKA P. Water are owned by a corporation (same corporation) and thus the liquor license is owned by the corporation. So I think if you lease these bars, they won't have a liquor license. I guess it can only be a food establishment. If anyone else knows the liquor licensing laws, please let me know as I'm not 100% sure.

  5. #18728
    Quote Originally Posted by ExitOnly  [View Original Post]
    Don't they have AMP back in the day also? I always thought the older generation enjoyed the Korean bar scene and it wasn't as ripoffs as now.
    Yes, however the total amount of MPs back then was just a fraction of what is available today.

  6. #18727
    Quote Originally Posted by KeepGoing  [View Original Post]
    Yup, industry is slowly dying. IMHO, many like myself no longer see the value of paying $20/$40 drink or $100 soju or $300 /$400 champagne anymore. My guess is that the increased popularity of the MP took the allure away from the KB. Why go to the KB and spend $300 just for a tease when you can go straight to thw MP to get action.
    Don't they have AMP back in the day also? I always thought the older generation enjoyed the Korean bar scene and it wasn't as ripoffs as now.

  7. #18726
    Quote Originally Posted by KeepGoing  [View Original Post]
    Yup, industry is slowly dying. IMHO, many like myself no longer see the value of paying $20/$40 drink or $100 soju or $300 /$400 champagne anymore. My guess is that the increased popularity of the MP took the allure away from the KB. Why go to the KB and spend $300 just for a tease when you can go straight to thw MP to get action.
    You nailed it.

  8. #18725

    No real love connection

    The reason why some of these older folks still hanging around cause they are thinking there is real love connection at KBs. Hate to say there is none. Ask yourself If the cash flow to your " honey" is cut off. Do you think your " Honey" still be around?

    Younger generation is pretty smart these days. They are not going to buy into these BS. They would rather go Waikiki night clubs in search of their real love.

    Kapiolani bars are dying. Kalihi bars will survive for a while. But don't bet your money they are going to stay for a long haul. Remember 3 of the closed Kalihi bars still with the padlock on it. It does not seem like anyone is interested to open it back up again soon.

    Quote Originally Posted by OldIslandBoy  [View Original Post]
    I've posted the same thought myself, but a little more direct: "Once the older generation move on" - which means, as the old guys die off, which is already happening. I'm one of those guys, but I am on the "younger" side of old.

    Once we're gone though, the industry here in Hawaii will fold. We are the customers for these places, our demographic are the patronizers, the youngsters do not care for these bars, "they are for old people".

  9. #18724
    Quote Originally Posted by OldIslandBoy  [View Original Post]
    I've posted the same thought myself, but a little more direct: "Once the older generation move on" - which means, as the old guys die off, which is already happening. I'm one of those guys, but I am on the "younger" side of old.

    Once we're gone though, the industry here in Hawaii will fold. We are the customers for these places, our demographic are the patronizers, the youngsters do not care for these bars, "they are for old people".
    Yup, industry is slowly dying. IMHO, many like myself no longer see the value of paying $20/$40 drink or $100 soju or $300 /$400 champagne anymore. My guess is that the increased popularity of the MP took the allure away from the KB. Why go to the KB and spend $300 just for a tease when you can go straight to thw MP to get action.

  10. #18723
    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorForLife  [View Original Post]
    Bars would never go busy like it once was. Too much drama and BS. Too expansive to drink.

    Look at how Summit and Camelot once was. Busy nitely and now it is almost empty at most nights.

    Once the older generation move on. The KBs will die. It is just a matter when.
    I've posted the same thought myself, but a little more direct: "Once the older generation move on" - which means, as the old guys die off, which is already happening. I'm one of those guys, but I am on the "younger" side of old.

    Once we're gone though, the industry here in Hawaii will fold. We are the customers for these places, our demographic are the patronizers, the youngsters do not care for these bars, "they are for old people".

  11. #18722

    Same Wa'a

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnRoss  [View Original Post]
    I really hope the bars start picking up again. It has been slow, so my gf has been home since April. I'm a prisoner in my own home because when I go out, she wants to go with me. LOL. I'm living my life through your experiences nowdays.
    I'm in the same boat JR! For past year no can! If things start pick up again, maybe my SO go back to work and give me some freedom. Upside is I've dried out, saved a lot of money, and stopped paying other guys house payments!

  12. #18721
    Quote Originally Posted by Esk808  [View Original Post]
    On the Diamond Head side of Yamato's was the "Gion Room" then "Club Ruby" and then "Sada Restaurant". I think Club Casino was next to Sada.

    Wasn't Club Ruby the old Denver Grill? Denver Grill was before my time.

    Towards Ewa from Yamato's was a Japanese bar called "Schontti" and later called "Club Eriko".
    I think you are right about Denver Grill. Damn you have good memory. Thanks for the 411. Much Mahalo. After all sooner or later there will be no more Kapiolani KB'S and the only thing left will be the memories and all the fun times.
    Last edited by Lualualei808; 05-23-17 at 10:35. Reason: Spelling

  13. #18720

    Sorry to say

    Bars would never go busy like it once was. Too much drama and BS. Too expansive to drink.

    Look at how Summit and Camelot once was. Busy nitely and now it is almost empty at most nights.

    Once the older generation move on. The KBs will die. It is just a matter when.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnRoss  [View Original Post]
    I really hope the bars start picking up again. It has been slow, so my gf has been home since April. I'm a prisoner in my own home because when I go out, she wants to go with me. LOL. I'm living my life through your experiences nowdays.

  14. #18719
    I really hope the bars start picking up again. It has been slow, so my gf has been home since April. I'm a prisoner in my own home because when I go out, she wants to go with me. LOL. I'm living my life through your experiences nowdays.

  15. #18718
    Quote Originally Posted by Lualualei808  [View Original Post]
    Yes, it was on Makaloa. Good place to drink with good food. Was close to Sada's. Too bad she passed, and Kurobara also had great food.
    I, for one, like to reminisce about the old days, but isn't the blog "Thread: Rememba the Gud Ole Dazs" more appropriate for our comments?

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