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  1. #7947

    Edsall

    Edsall is definitely no longer NSP. I visited about 2 weeks ago after not having been for several months. The shower and massage were good, but if you previously visited for service that went above and beyond you may be disappointed. There is nothing to set them apart from the standard NoVA experience.

  2. #7946

    Collio2 is F. O. S.

    He's posting for the AMPs. Somebody block him / her. VIP is a loser spa, with one lady.

    Quote Originally Posted by RoaminRoman  [View Original Post]
    Just an observation but, the way your report is written, it seems almost as though you have a vested interest in this place (almost as though you were a provider who is trying to avoid having to post an ad in the USASG Advertisers forum). If you are truly a monger who's trying to pass along useful information, bear in mind the need to be clear in your composition in order that other members won't be confused or uncertain about your post. Just FWIW.

    Roman.

  3. #7945
    Quote Originally Posted by JmSuttr  [View Original Post]
    She wouldn't have given you her number if she didn't want to see you again. Whenever a masseuse gives me her personal cell #, I make it a point to text her right away to tell her what a wonderful time I had and that I would like to see her again. Even if you can't make it up to PA very often, an occasional text keeps that connection active.

    As far as making an appt, send her a text to ask if you can schedule with her or if you should call the MMS. IMHO, she'll appreciate your reaching out but will probably ask you to call MMS because she won't want MMS to know she's communicating directly with clients.
    Thank you everyone for the responses. I should probably give some more details. Unfortunately she speaks almost no English and my Korean is very limited. (Brushing up on it as we speak haha). Despite being super sweet and kind during our session, apparently she's sort of infamous and loves $$. In the past I've heard that she has 5 cell phones, and markets herself to all her clients that she wants to see again. Maybe she's toned it down, or it was exaggerated but I'm guessing that meeting her outside of the spa is out of the question. I messaged her a day after saying I had a good time, nice meeting you etc.

    The language barrier sucks, but I do understand most of what she's saying. I just can't reply back as easily since I don't practice my Korean as much as I should. I asked for her number because she frequently travels and I wanted to be able to see her again in case she moves. Taking her on a "night out of town" didn't cross my mind, though I wouldn't be against it if she expressed interest. She did say that next time I'm in PA she wants to buy me lunch. It sounded sincere when she said it but who knows.

    I think for now, I will take JimSuttr's advice and just try to make an appointment through her, or if she prefers it to be through MMS.

  4. #7944
    Quote Originally Posted by BunkerBuster  [View Original Post]
    He certainly does get around quickly.
    He also is horrifically grammar-challenged. Sounds like it was written by a bot and not a person.

  5. #7943

    Collio2 does come across like a shill

    Quote Originally Posted by JmSuttr  [View Original Post]
    You have 13 posts to your name and every single one is an unqualified positive review of an AMP. In fact, you've given positive reviews to places in Jacksonville, Colorado Springs, Sacramento, Mobile, PG County and Northern VA. And in most of your posts you claim to have received either BJ (including CIM) or FS. Also, in your Sacramento Forum post on 4/23 you claim that it was an account of your very first visit to an AMP. Yet you have five earlier posts detailing other reported AMP visits.

    Don't know what your game is, but my scammer radar is on high alert and I don't believe a word of any of your posts.
    He even calls the girls "staffs" like the ads do. Compare today's review of VIP therapy with his 10/15/13 review of Top Spa.

    Quote Originally Posted by Collio2  [View Original Post]
    After a visit to several different spas I realized that VIP SPA was one of the better ones. With staffs willing to help you relieve your stress for a good cost. These massage experts high standards massage skill and it will treat you well. In an environment pleasant to be in your comfort is not compromised. The drive to Chantily isn't bad at all. But its little hard to find it when you get there. They also have ample parking lot. A spa like VIP is not to be ignored. Located in chantilly (Gallows Road) Come try a visit and you will be surprised.
    Quote Originally Posted by Collio2  [View Original Post]
    After a visit to several different spas I realized that TOP SPA was one of the better ones. With staffs willing to help you relieve your stress for a good cost. These massage experts high standards massage skill and it will treat you well. In an environment pleasant to be in your comfort is not compromised. They also have ample parking lot. A spa like TOP SPA is not to be ignored. Located in Falls church Come try a visit and you will be surprised.
    http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...682&viewfull=1#post1901682.

    I also noticed that he said the 4/23 visit was his first time, but note that he said an 'AAMP' (Asian Apartment), not his first time in an 'AMP'.

    He certainly does get around quickly (California, Alabama, Florida, and the DC area) within a matter of weeks, and seems to get a lot of BBBJ and FS, but maybe he's just a traveling businessman for some business other than opening new AMPs. LOL.

  6. #7942

    If you're feeling generous

    Quote Originally Posted by TerranCraft  [View Original Post]
    Provider gave me her cell# but not sure what exactly I can do with it, besides find out when she is leaving for / coming back Korea.

    Stay safe.
    Find out if she gave you the number because she's interested in seeing you outside of the spa, or just because she's planning a move and wants to let you know where she ends up.

    Chat with her a bit, then suggest that she come visit you in DC next time she has a few days off. You'll pay for her round-trip bus or train ticket, of course, plus restaurants with scenic views in between sightseeing and a bit of shopping. If she's interested in visiting, pick up the tab for everything, treat her like a lady on the town, and reap the rewards at bedtimes.

    I took a few spa girls around town, then dropped them off at the bus station or airport, and they look and act like normal girls outside the spa. If anyone remembers Shogun spa in Falls Church, the owner (she was one of only 2-3 masseuses there) cooked dinner for me several times, and came back to my place once for a GFE trip to Greece in my shower.

  7. #7941
    Quote Originally Posted by GuidoForLife  [View Original Post]
    Unless you have exclusivity agreement with a provider, if I was to go in and tip her $200, she would now be "accepting" new clients. Glad you found someone that makes you happy, but I doubt anyone else except the most lonely out of shape slob would consider an almost 50 "drop dead gorgeous". Every other year, I go to the high end soapies in Bangkok. There you can get legit 20 yo porn / models for $250 USD.

    Having said that, TCC1 is open part time if you have the number. Someone is there twice a week on the down low.
    Guido, I'm going to "pile on" (just adding on, really) to this discussion, in support of PA.

    First, though, if your preference is for the 20-something hottie / pornstar / model type of provider, then who am I to tell you what you should like? After all, ours is a hobby that is purely one of personal preferences. And, like artwork and scotch, each individual has his own personal tastes that bring him greatest satisfaction. So, in that vein, monger on and enjoy.

    That said, I have to come down on PA's side in that, while a provider in her 40's or 50's is usually no longer the super-flexible spring chicken that you prefer, these more mature providers possess something that most of the younger ones lack or have not yet developed: a sensuality and an instinctive understanding of how to make their time with you satisfying on more than a mere physical level. And until you've experienced it, you won't truly know what PA, JmSuttr, and I (and some others) are talking about.

    When I was in my 30's (I'm "a bit" older, nowadays), I was regularly seeing a provider at a less-advertised and now-defunct Annandale AMP. This provider was actually the owner and MMS, but I always requested her. Unless she needed to ensure that the other girls were getting enough business, she would always take care of me. And take care of me she did. And not just from the physical standpoint, either. She had an indescribable earthy, smoky sensuality about her that made the hour (and sometimes more) that we spent together in one of the rooms seem like a whole afternoon or evening. At any rate, I assumed that she was in her late-40's or early-50's. But, as it turned out when her place eventually closed about 5 years later, she was late-50's / early-60's during the time that I was seeing her. That didn't turn me off at all, but rather confirmed my opinion that a woman can be sensual and exciting at more mature stages of her life. The proof of that was in her ability to get me to "full mast" about 30 seconds after she closed the door to the room. And, even though she was near and at 60 when I was seeing her, she was more than a match for me and I was seldom able to last more than 7 minutes with her once the main event began. It might strike you as strange that I was able to be so fascinated by a lady who was about 25 years my senior, but as I said: it's something you won't be able to understand until you've experienced it for yourself. She is now well out of the business, but I still look back on each and every session I had with that lady (and there were many) with longing and desire. She knew how to keep me coming back in a way that the younger hotties couldn't (although there have also been more than a few young hotties who've held my attention). Throughout my mongering, I've had the pleasure of knowing a few providers who were at least 10 years older than me, and each of them had a certain "something" that younger ones simply didn't have and couldn't offer.

    So, what's the gist of all the above? Basically, if you have the opportunity to develop a relationship (especially a GFE relationship) with an older provider, don't pass up that opportunity too quickly or out-of-hand. You might just find, as JmSuttr and PA and I have found, that they'll expand your "monger horizons" and give you experiences that you've never had before. And, believe it or not, it's not all that hard to establish such a relationship. It's just that their needs and motivations are going to be different than those for a 20-somethiing or 30-something provider, and you have to be able to discern what those needs and motivations are, just as they are able to discern what will keep you on their "short leash".

    Monger on, amigo. And, as PA always counsels, "Be nice to the ladies".

    Roamin' Roman.

  8. #7940

    Monger or Provider?

    Quote Originally Posted by Collio2  [View Original Post]
    After a visit to several different spas I realized that VIP SPA was one of the better ones. With staffs willing to help you relieve your stress for a good cost. These massage experts high standards massage skill and it will treat you well. In an environment pleasant to be in your comfort is not compromised. The drive to Chantily isn't bad at all. But its little hard to find it when you get there. They also have ample parking lot. A spa like VIP is not to be ignored. Located in chantilly (Gallows Road) Come try a visit and you will be surprised.
    Just an observation but, the way your report is written, it seems almost as though you have a vested interest in this place (almost as though you were a provider who is trying to avoid having to post an ad in the USASG Advertisers forum). If you are truly a monger who's trying to pass along useful information, bear in mind the need to be clear in your composition in order that other members won't be confused or uncertain about your post. Just FWIW.

    Roman.

  9. #7939

    VIP Therapy

    After a visit to several different spas I realized that VIP SPA was one of the better ones. With staffs willing to help you relieve your stress for a good cost. These massage experts high standards massage skill and it will treat you well. In an environment pleasant to be in your comfort is not compromised. The drive to Chantily isn't bad at all. But its little hard to find it when you get there. They also have ample parking lot. A spa like VIP is not to be ignored. Located in chantilly (Gallows Road) Come try a visit and you will be surprised.

  10. #7938

    Number

    Quote Originally Posted by TerranCraft  [View Original Post]
    After giving up on the AMP scene here in NoVA I decided to make the trip to PA for a popular KMP. Those guys have it great, true GFE experience with a legit low 20's spinner. TS, ST, DFK, etc. It was a long drive but definitely worth it. I can't see myself ever considering going to a place around here anymore.

    Quick question for you guys, are all appointments always to be made through MMS? Provider gave me her cell# but not sure what exactly I can do with it, besides find out when she is leaving for / coming back Korea.

    Stay safe.
    If she gives you her number that means she's willing to see you outside of the AMP. Good luck with that because you may have hit the jackpot. If I were you, I'd text / call her immediately to stay in contact or at least make another visit, this time without the middle MMS.

    Feel free to PM with details if possible, thanks!

  11. #7937

    If she gave you her digits, give them a try

    Quote Originally Posted by TerranCraft  [View Original Post]
    After giving up on the AMP scene here in NoVA I decided to make the trip to PA for a popular KMP. Those guys have it great, true GFE experience with a legit low 20's spinner. TS, ST, DFK, etc. It was a long drive but definitely worth it. I can't see myself ever considering going to a place around here anymore.

    Quick question for you guys, are all appointments always to be made through MMS? Provider gave me her cell# but not sure what exactly I can do with it, besides find out when she is leaving for / coming back Korea.

    Stay safe.
    She wouldn't have given you her number if she didn't want to see you again. Whenever a masseuse gives me her personal cell #, I make it a point to text her right away to tell her what a wonderful time I had and that I would like to see her again. Even if you can't make it up to PA very often, an occasional text keeps that connection active.

    As far as making an appt, send her a text to ask if you can schedule with her or if you should call the MMS. IMHO, she'll appreciate your reaching out but will probably ask you to call MMS because she won't want MMS to know she's communicating directly with clients.

  12. #7936
    Quote Originally Posted by GuidoForLife  [View Original Post]
    Unless you have exclusivity agreement with a provider, if I was to go in and tip her $200, she would now be "accepting" new clients. Glad you found someone that makes you happy, but I doubt anyone else except the most lonely out of shape slob would consider an almost 50 "drop dead gorgeous". Every other year, I go to the high end soapies in Bangkok. There you can get legit 20 yo porn / models for $250 USD.

    Having said that, TCC1 is open part time if you have the number. Someone is there twice a week on the down low.
    When you've been in this game a while you start to realize an experienced 40 something K-lady is an asset not a liability. If she still looks great, offers availability and a menu to your liking, that's a home run. Most of the younger ones offer a mechanical and standard play book. Besides, a K-lady in her forties is still about 20 years my junior.

  13. #7935
    After giving up on the AMP scene here in NoVA I decided to make the trip to PA for a popular KMP. Those guys have it great, true GFE experience with a legit low 20's spinner. TS, ST, DFK, etc. It was a long drive but definitely worth it. I can't see myself ever considering going to a place around here anymore.

    Quick question for you guys, are all appointments always to be made through MMS? Provider gave me her cell# but not sure what exactly I can do with it, besides find out when she is leaving for / coming back Korea.

    Stay safe.

  14. #7934

    IMHO, you've demonstrated PA's essential point

    Quote Originally Posted by GuidoForLife  [View Original Post]
    Unless you have exclusivity agreement with a provider, if I was to go in and tip her $200, she would now be "accepting" new clients. Glad you found someone that makes you happy, but I doubt anyone else except the most lonely out of shape slob would consider an almost 50 "drop dead gorgeous". Every other year, I go to the high end soapies in Bangkok. There you can get legit 20 yo porn / models for $250 USD.

    Having said that, TCC1 is open part time if you have the number. Someone is there twice a week on the down low.
    When PA posted about a "generational shift" my thoughts were that it applies equally to providers and hobbyists. You obviously prefer 20 yo porn-pretenders (that's my name for them because most of them do way too much fake moaning for my taste) while PA prefers a more mature experience. There's plenty of room in the hobby for both viewpoints and each one is equally valid to those who hold them.

    And while money generally talks, it doesn't necessarily follow that flashing cash will get you immediate access to all providers (especially UTR ones). My sense from PA's post is that he has gone the extra mile to develop a relationship with his ATF such that she is willing to do for him what she might not do for someone with whom she does not have that level of comfort or trust, no matter how much $ is offered.

    BTW, I've seen plenty of asian women in their 40's and 50's who would qualify as DDG in just about anyone's eyes. They age much better than most other races and, if you haven't had the pleasure of meeting one yet, that's unfortunate because they have a combination of looks, experience and authenticity that can take your breath away.

    So good luck on your next trip to Thailand and I sincerely hope your $250 USD (about 8,000+ baht) is for multiple hours because there are plenty of websites with young hotties offering 2+ hours and multiple pops for around 6000 baht.

  15. #7933
    Quote Originally Posted by PilotAviator  [View Original Post]
    Generational shift -- the 20-year olds are all of the internet generation (from the time of their birth, they had email, high-speed internet, I-tunes, etc. -- they do not know what a vinyl record, VHS-tape, or a standard music CD is for).

    They are more mobile and a bit more independent and are easily found on CL, BP and other listings, frequently working from "a convenient, upscale in-call near you. ".

    I know a few -- and I have visited a few of the convenient in-calls (not particularly up-scale in my experience) - and, FWIW, I prefer my ATF AMP and ATF provider.

    The AMP is fairly typical for NoVA -- one of about 10 or so within three miles of the exit I use to depart from the 395-corridor to my residence.

    My ATF-provider maintains the body of a 20-years-young vixen (what is it about some of these Asian women and their lack of body fat! If you look casually her face appears to be one you would expect to see on a young thirties -- look closer, and then you can see she is well over 40. And still drop-dead gorgeous. She has a work-ethic that I have learned is not-atypical of an independent K-girl and a sensual-spirit that the "young-uns" can't match. She is incredibly good (I would say gifted) as a massage technician, and admittedly, she is in this business for the money (tips).

    When I compare her qualities and superb service to other providers I wonder: a) why do I even look for other locations to try (answer because I am a monger. Sigh); and b) whether I am stingy because I tip others at "standard rates" and tip her at a level that is only one-notch above standard rates (and her superb service is "off-scale high".

    For those that decry NoVA for old providers and poor service. You are right to move-on to other locations or other hobbies.

    Whatever you decide, please remember to always be nice to the ladies.

    PA.

    P.S. My ATF is UTR, is not looking for additional clients. The AMP regularly advertises in all the usual outlets.
    Unless you have exclusivity agreement with a provider, if I was to go in and tip her $200, she would now be "accepting" new clients. Glad you found someone that makes you happy, but I doubt anyone else except the most lonely out of shape slob would consider an almost 50 "drop dead gorgeous". Every other year, I go to the high end soapies in Bangkok. There you can get legit 20 yo porn / models for $250 USD.

    Having said that, TCC1 is open part time if you have the number. Someone is there twice a week on the down low.

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