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  1. #3433
    Quote Originally Posted by Ceasar160  [View Original Post]
    She caught my eye as well. Just not sure I want to drive from CLE to take one for the team.
    She lives in a public housing building where you have to sign in with security. He was the only white guy in the hallways. He had a good visit, but would not return because of the location.

  2. #3432
    Quote Originally Posted by Erusdnats  [View Original Post]
    ERs. General doesn't have a lockdown -- she got up and left. City doesn't. Western Reserve doesn't -- PD actually "released" her to there.

    The places with lockdown units don't have ERs.

    Many places can transfer a medically stable patient to a lockdown, but care of HIPAA, if a conscious patient leaves AMA, the hospital cannot call the police.

    If there is someplace with an ER that also has lockdown in Summit County, please share -- odds are good that it'll be needed.
    ACH has a specific lockdown section in their ER for psychiatric. If these patients are "pink slipped," by a doctor, they cannot leave, they're deemed psychologically incapable of making a rational decision and leaving AMA is a no go. I believe it has six separate rooms. The only way in and out of this unit is with a keycard and ACH police are stationed about 20 feet away. Once they go through everything here, which can sometimes take a day or two, and doctors decide they need further help, they are transported, still pink slipped, to another facility. Typically St. Thomas (if it's open) or Portage Path Emergency Services. Other times it can be do facilities in Cleveland, Portage, Massillon, or Canton. Sometimes even Youngstown and Columbus if absolutely necessary.

    AGMC also has 2 lockdown units. 6th floor. One side is psychiatric and the other is "stress management," whatever that is.

    Western reserve doesn't have shit. They were stupid to take her there.

    If you have more questions or whatever, message me. I don't want to keep clogging the forum with this.

  3. #3431
    Quote Originally Posted by Ceasar160  [View Original Post]
    She caught my eye as well. Just not sure I want to drive from CLE to take one for the team.
    Near downtown Akron.

  4. #3430

    What he said.

    She caught my eye as well. Just not sure I want to drive from CLE to take one for the team.


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  6. #3428

    Which have both ERs and lockdowns?

    Quote Originally Posted by JasonDono  [View Original Post]
    I was pretty much going to stay out of this, but that isn't remotely true. I know that one hospital, does in fact have a lock down unit in their ER, and a few others have a version of lock downs. As well as lock down rooms for psychiatric patients suffering severe medical issues. They will keep a patient in that locked down room if needed until medically stable, and then ship them over to the specialized lockdown unit of that ER for psych evaluation and decide what facility they will send them to. Psychiatric UNITS (wards) will not accept a patient who are having any type medical issues. That portion of this ER acts just like the psych ward lock downs. During this time, as long as a doctor deems it medically necessary, they cannot leave AMA. So she was either not considered psychiatric and she was able to leave AMA, or this story is missing something.
    ERs. General doesn't have a lockdown -- she got up and left. City doesn't. Western Reserve doesn't -- PD actually "released" her to there.

    The places with lockdown units don't have ERs.

    Many places can transfer a medically stable patient to a lockdown, but care of HIPAA, if a conscious patient leaves AMA, the hospital cannot call the police.

    If there is someplace with an ER that also has lockdown in Summit County, please share -- odds are good that it'll be needed.

  7. #3427
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    Quote Originally Posted by TSoprano  [View Original Post]
    When they're not guests of the county, they often times live on our (taxpayers) dime in the " projects " .

    T.
    And without them we all would be spending more time jacking off.

  8. #3426

    Just a follow up

    Quote Originally Posted by FigureRingLyle  [View Original Post]
    Well that's why we have jobs, income and houses what have you and can afford our hobby, and they have to live by the skin of their teeth.
    When they're not guests of the county, they often times live on our (taxpayers) dime in the " projects " .

    T.

  9. #3425
    Quote Originally Posted by Streetwize  [View Original Post]
    These girls seem to do that. I get texts every week from some girl out of the blue "can you come see me now"? No. I have a life. That's why I schedule appointments. I suggest you try keeping them and conduct yourself as a business.
    Well that's why we have jobs, income and houses what have you and can afford our hobby, and they have to live by the skin of their teeth.

  10. #3424
    Quote Originally Posted by Erusdnats  [View Original Post]
    The hospitals say this is SOP for LEO in Summit County. No hospital with an ER has a true lock-down unit. The hospitals with lock down units won't accept an emergency patient. Non lock down hospitals (I. E. Places without psych wards) will not take a patient suffering from an emergency.
    I was pretty much going to stay out of this, but that isn't remotely true. I know that one hospital, does in fact have a lock down unit in their ER, and a few others have a version of lock downs. As well as lock down rooms for psychiatric patients suffering severe medical issues. They will keep a patient in that locked down room if needed until medically stable, and then ship them over to the specialized lockdown unit of that ER for psych evaluation and decide what facility they will send them to. Psychiatric UNITS (wards) will not accept a patient who are having any type medical issues. That portion of this ER acts just like the psych ward lock downs. During this time, as long as a doctor deems it medically necessary, they cannot leave AMA. So she was either not considered psychiatric and she was able to leave AMA, or this story is missing something.

  11. #3423

    Out of the blue

    Quote Originally Posted by JasonDono  [View Original Post]
    http://akron-canton.skipthegames.com...a/770944268591

    I don't remember seeing anything about her, Anyone know anything? I contacted her a few days ago, we both exchanged two texts each and then she went dark. So I went on about my life and I just got a text from her from a different number (It's been, like a week) that is attached to her real name and I facebooked it. It was real and the pics from her ad and FB match. She said she had gotten a room and wanted to see if I wanted to meet. Completely out of the blue. I declined as I have shit to do but wondered if anyone knew anything.
    These girls seem to do that. I get texts every week from some girl out of the blue "can you come see me now"? No. I have a life. That's why I schedule appointments. I suggest you try keeping them and conduct yourself as a business.

  12. #3422

    Truth is so much stranger than fiction

    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyManziel  [View Original Post]
    Pretty much read my mind.
    The full narrative would make your head spin even more.

    I simply pray that I am never arrested for anything and experience a severe medical issue.

    Here's why.

    "(Knock on the door) We arrested X on a warrant. X had a medical emergency. We _released_ (not took -- released) X to why hospital. She had medical POA paperwork on her or on file. You should go to Y hospital to handle things. If you do go, which you should because you're X's authorized agent, and she wakes and is discharged or tries to leave and you allow or assist her, we'll charge you with aiding and abetting. ".

    In hindsight, I can see the liability logic from LEO in a situation like this.

    The hospitals say this is SOP for LEO in Summit County. No hospital with an ER has a true lock-down unit. The hospitals with lock down units won't accept an emergency patient. Non lock down hospitals (I. E. Places without psych wards) will not take a patient suffering from an emergency.

    I have been told via text and email from my team that many people with experience being arrested for substance abuse know this "loop hole" and exploit it to escape after being arrested.

    It's mind-numbing.
    Last edited by Erusdnats; 02-18-18 at 09:55. Reason: spelling

  13. #3421
    Quote Originally Posted by Gunner3201  [View Original Post]
    Saw an ad for Envy on STG. Has anybody given her a show? Half hour rates don't look terrible, looks cute, and was able to match her number to her facebook profile. May have to try this weekend if I get a chance.

    http://akron-canton.skipthegames.com...g/988113303227
    I haven't but talked to her briefly on SA.

  14. #3420
    Quote Originally Posted by Ddave1939  [View Original Post]
    I'm glad I wasn't alone with this sentiment. He says she's her emergency contact and vice versa, but if she had a seizure in the cruiser, how does he know? If she's in the hospital, how does he know? How does he know she's unresponsive (even to pain)? Does she have a card in her purse that says to call him? They let him in to see her? A stranger?

    He's only seen that non-response in OD patients. If it quacks like a duck.

    Also, she was apparently indicted or had pending charges. So she was jailed, released, went to rehab voluntarily, charges were officially pressed, but because rehab they couldn't arrest her? So a warrant was issued and she was arrested upon release?

    I'm not calling op a liar, but I am saying this story is a wild ride and it would be depressing to find out OP is writing fiction to get his jollies off when these situations actually happen.
    You bring up some good points. I don't think he's lying he just doesn't have the full story and appears to not know how junkies work. Even the "good ones," good people in every other aspect of their lives, will lie through their teeth about their use and to protect their dealer(s). I suspect she had scored and either swallowed or absorbed fentanyl through her vagene while in custody. If she was in a cell it may have taken time to figure out what was going on.

  15. #3419

    K

    Quote Originally Posted by Ddave1939  [View Original Post]
    I'm glad I wasn't alone with this sentiment. He says she's her emergency contact and vice versa, but if she had a seizure in the cruiser, how does he know? If she's in the hospital, how does he know? How does he know she's unresponsive (even to pain)? Does she have a card in her purse that says to call him? They let him in to see her? A stranger?

    He's only seen that non-response in OD patients. If it quacks like a duck.

    Also, she was apparently indicted or had pending charges. So she was jailed, released, went to rehab voluntarily, charges were officially pressed, but because rehab they couldn't arrest her? So a warrant was issued and she was arrested upon release?

    I'm not calling op a liar, but I am saying this story is a wild ride and it would be depressing to find out OP is writing fiction to get his jollies off when these situations actually happen.
    Check your inbox.

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