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  1. #2053

    1/2 way agree with you

    The harem is definitely a great place to have fun but I think the girls at cheeks are much better looking and many are open to the idea of getting out of there and pursuing alternate money making opportunities. I am into the spinner type and the majority of dancers at cheeks are just that. I have had luck at the harem more regularly though. I like the VIP area there, not 100% private but good place to hold a conversation and have a little more fun. Cheeks has a much better couch dance area, at least in the back left corner. Many nights of playing with these girls have gone on because it is just small enough seats where nothing can be seen. I have personally fucked a chick back there with someone sitting in the couch next to me and they had no clue. Either that or they just wanted to talk while they were getting a dance LOL. Anyhow, my trick when it comes to paying for dances is to sit there and wait for the right one to come along. The one who doesn't just come up and say, "you want a dance?" Many times they will sit down and talk. Then I hit them with, "how much for a couple dances from you?" They now know I want more than 1 and they are willing to make a deal. I spent over an hour in the couch room doing nothing but 2 for 1's or 4 for $20. Get to know the girls and they will treat you right.

    Quote Originally Posted by NdayGuy  [View Original Post]
    I "KNOW" one of my dancer friends will be reading this (Samantha) and probably kick my ass next time she sees me.

    Dance prices at the Harem are set by the dancers and range from 2 for $20 up to 2 for $40. Some dancers try to set the base prices at 2 for $30. I have had rare occurrences late at night where I have been offered 4 for $20 close to closing time. "Management" tells the new girls that dances should be $20 each or higher, but supply and demand always kicks in.

    ... ... Don't go for "list prices" as you risk inflating the prices for all of us.

    Last week I actually timed some of the dances and for a while the songs went from 3:50 UP TO 4:40. This is because the house does not take a cut of each dance, hence, no financial incentive to squeeze more dances in. ALSO. I usually take girls that I know in the back shortly after one song starts, and insist we start on the NEXT song. They all agree and many of them are itching to get started and finish the song in progress as a "startup bonus" so I get and extra 75% of a song, or at least good private conversation. I see girls I like on a regular basis so they make it up on frequency and consistency. .

  2. #2052
    Quote Originally Posted by NdayGuy  [View Original Post]
    Them's the good ol' days. These days making a few hundred is high. I know a few who make under $100 and leave happy.
    Dated 1 dancer from Cheeks that said she usually made $300-$500 a night but she was exceptionally GFE. Couple others said if they clear $100 after all fees, they were happy. 15 minute VIP = $125- dancer pockets $100. Evidently Cheeks keeps entire 1st 2/1 for house and then $5 for each one after that. On tap of that, dancers are expected to tip DJ $10. So if a young lass works 5 days a week and averages $100 take home = $500 per week for 20-25 hours. To take home $500 per week without an education they would have to work about 70-75 hours to bring home same money. Nobody's getting rich, stripping in Dayton.

  3. #2051
    Quote Originally Posted by PleasureGiver  [View Original Post]
    I've dated several dancers in the distant past from both Flamingo's and Mr. Lee's, LOL.

    It wasn't hard for them to make a $1000 at those clubs on a Friday / Saturday Night and that was back in the 90's.
    Them's the good ol' days. These days making a few hundred is high. I know a few who make under $100 and leave happy.

  4. #2050

    Dated.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bdirect  [View Original Post]
    I never paid over 2 for 20. And if they want more,. Go to somebody else,. I am not bill Gates,. Sometime I got better deals. 20 is 20. Most factory are under 20 per hour,. Years ago I got BBBJ for 40 there. With no song count,. I heard a dancer say they make from 250 up to 1000 per day there,. But some girls there can hustle you and not do what they promise in the dancers room,. So the most you lost is a Jackson. So it is a safe way to avoid the rip off girls,. And if you find a great grinder,. You can always continue the 2 for 20 ,. For more fun. cowboy in lexington are 5 per song at the table. great laps too. So 4 for 20 is reasonable. any some girl take that offer at harmen. a 20 is a 20 for 15 minutes of dancing,. thank you nday for sharing your info.
    I've dated several dancers in the distant past from both Flamingo's and Mr. Lee's, LOL.

    It wasn't hard for them to make a $1000 at those clubs on a Friday / Saturday Night and that was back in the 90's.

  5. #2049

    Looking for cheap lap dances

    Quote Originally Posted by NdayGuy  [View Original Post]
    I "KNOW" one of my dancer friends will be reading this (Samantha) and probably kick my ass next time she sees me.

    Dance prices at the Harem are set by the dancers and range from 2 for $20 up to 2 for $40. Some dancers try to set the base prices at 2 for $30. I have had rare occurrences late at night where I have been offered 4 for $20 close to closing time. "Management" tells the new girls that dances should be $20 each or higher, but supply and demand always kicks in.

    ... ... Don't go for "list prices" as you risk inflating the prices for all of us.

    Last week I actually timed some of the dances and for a while the songs went from 3:50 UP TO 4:40. This is because the house does not take a cut of each dance, hence, no financial incentive to squeeze more dances in. ALSO. I usually take girls that I know in the back shortly after one song starts, and insist we start on the NEXT song. They all agree and many of them are itching to get started and finish the song in progress as a "startup bonus" so I get and extra 75% of a song, or at least good private conversation. I see girls I like on a regular basis so they make it up on frequency and consistency.

    One dancer offered me 6 for $20 at closing a few months back. I took her up on it but gave her a tip - I couldn't do 6 for $20 and live with myself. I asked her why so low. She laughed and told me she works as a server at a local restaurant and makes under $4 per hour plus tips. Sometimes her tips don't even get her to $15 per hour and she works hard putting up with rude customers, delivering heavy food plates, cleaning up after slobs and kids etc. So dancing for 30 minutes (6 songs) for $20 doesn't sound to bad to her. She told me she only does it SOMETIMES to her last customer of the evening to get an extra $20 before she goes home to sleep before her day-job.

    I find the HAREM has much better mileage than Cheeks.
    I never paid over 2 for 20. And if they want more,. Go to somebody else,. I am not bill Gates,. Sometime I got better deals. 20 is 20. Most factory are under 20 per hour,. Years ago I got BBBJ for 40 there. With no song count,. I heard a dancer say they make from 250 up to 1000 per day there,. But some girls there can hustle you and not do what they promise in the dancers room,. So the most you lost is a Jackson. So it is a safe way to avoid the rip off girls,. And if you find a great grinder,. You can always continue the 2 for 20 ,. For more fun. cowboy in lexington are 5 per song at the table. great laps too. So 4 for 20 is reasonable. any some girl take that offer at harmen. a 20 is a 20 for 15 minutes of dancing,. thank you nday for sharing your info.

  6. #2048

    And the Harem

    I "KNOW" one of my dancer friends will be reading this (Samantha) and probably kick my ass next time she sees me.

    Dance prices at the Harem are set by the dancers and range from 2 for $20 up to 2 for $40. Some dancers try to set the base prices at 2 for $30. I have had rare occurrences late at night where I have been offered 4 for $20 close to closing time. "Management" tells the new girls that dances should be $20 each or higher, but supply and demand always kicks in.

    ... ... Don't go for "list prices" as you risk inflating the prices for all of us.

    Last week I actually timed some of the dances and for a while the songs went from 3:50 UP TO 4:40. This is because the house does not take a cut of each dance, hence, no financial incentive to squeeze more dances in. ALSO. I usually take girls that I know in the back shortly after one song starts, and insist we start on the NEXT song. They all agree and many of them are itching to get started and finish the song in progress as a "startup bonus" so I get and extra 75% of a song, or at least good private conversation. I see girls I like on a regular basis so they make it up on frequency and consistency.

    One dancer offered me 6 for $20 at closing a few months back. I took her up on it but gave her a tip - I couldn't do 6 for $20 and live with myself. I asked her why so low. She laughed and told me she works as a server at a local restaurant and makes under $4 per hour plus tips. Sometimes her tips don't even get her to $15 per hour and she works hard putting up with rude customers, delivering heavy food plates, cleaning up after slobs and kids etc. So dancing for 30 minutes (6 songs) for $20 doesn't sound to bad to her. She told me she only does it SOMETIMES to her last customer of the evening to get an extra $20 before she goes home to sleep before her day-job.

    I find the HAREM has much better mileage than Cheeks.

  7. #2047

    Cheeks Dance Math

    Agreed. Cheeks average song length is 3. 5-4 min long. Longer songs do get shorted but at that same time mark or a little after. Depends on DJ that night. Only long song they actually play consistently is the 2 for 1 theme.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cincitoo  [View Original Post]
    So the math is a place to start, but the one variable is the song clipping. In my experience at Cheeks, the house plays with the length of songs. Really long songs get clipped. DJ is there to optimize the house. Like any business there is a way to put your "thumb on the scale. " Dancers at one time had their playlists. And I would give them a 5 to ask the DJ for songs. LONG ONES. Just to observe the clip. But, my math and timer gets compromised when the lower brain has a clit on it. Add to that boobs in your face, too!

    Just saying,

    Stay thirsty my friend.

    C2.

  8. #2046

    Cheeks Dance Math

    So the math is a place to start, but the one variable is the song clipping. In my experience at Cheeks, the house plays with the length of songs. Really long songs get clipped. DJ is there to optimize the house. Like any business there is a way to put your "thumb on the scale. " Dancers at one time had their playlists. And I would give them a 5 to ask the DJ for songs. LONG ONES. Just to observe the clip. But, my math and timer gets compromised when the lower brain has a clit on it. Add to that boobs in your face, too!

    Just saying,

    Stay thirsty my friend.

    C2.

    Quote Originally Posted by WanderingAbout  [View Original Post]
    Cheeks dance card.

    Single dance:

    Total $25. House cut $5. Dancer cut $20. Guy cost per dance: $25. Dance time: 4 min.

    Two for 1:

    Total $25. House cut $5. Dancer cut $20. Guy cost per dance: $12.50. Dance time: 8 min. Dancers can offer two 2 fers to a customer unless its a slow night for club then club may have spontaneous two for one night.

    VIP dance:

    Total $250. House cut $50. Dancer cut $200. Guy cost per dance: about $30. Dance time: 30 min.

  9. #2045

    A point of clarification.

    I have only know a few stripper, but those that I've know will fuck you for a buck. That may not be a big enough sample, I get that, but I am inclined to believe that strippers are a subset of the larger social group of females colloquially referred to as wh0 res. I do know this for a fact: wh0 res lie. Now if you buy my logic, "strippers lie" because they are a part of the larger group all of which lie. Perhaps this is unnecessarily splitting a hair. Or perhaps I'm just wrong. But then again, who the fvck really cares!

  10. #2044

    Strippers Lie

    Quote Originally Posted by NdayGuy  [View Original Post]
    You forget #8. Strippers Lie.
    😜128540;128540;128540; I have got to know probably 15-20 of these young ladies and the majority are not bad young ladies, just either have messed up lives, loser magnets or the profession hardened them. My mistake was in trying to rescue a Lady from herself and her life. There are a few that actually have there life together and know this is a way to pay the bills while they work towards something else. I have dated 6-8 girls (dinner, etc) and have heard just about every story. The bottom line is this. If it seems too good to be true, it probably is. After original post, I stopped in Cheeks. Met someone new, she thought I was very handsome and funny. I think THIS ONE is telling the truth 😂128514;128514;128514;.

  11. #2043
    Quote Originally Posted by NotANewbie  [View Original Post]
    After a little over a year of being a "Cheeks Regular" it's becoming time to shut this area of life down. As a humanitarian, I'd like to offer a few tidbits and findings😁 1- Strippers Lie- I know this is shocking😡 But sadly this is true. 2- if you are decently attractive guy and go there long enough while treating dancers well, there is NOTHING that isn't on the table, trust me, I've been offered everything 3- The new chef at Cheeks is fantastic! Stopped in last night, had his chicken alfredo, 1-2/1 dance with the amazing London (no extras / classy) and left. 4. Strippers Lie 5. Avoid the VIP's! More cameras there than some couch areas. 6. You are not that incredible, good looking and witty (refer to points 1 and 4😜 7. 95 % of strippers have really screwed up lives.
    You forget #8. Strippers Lie.

  12. #2042

    Well said

    Good post. All true.

    Quote Originally Posted by NotANewbie  [View Original Post]
    After a little over a year of being a "Cheeks Regular" it's becoming time to shut this area of life down. As a humanitarian, I'd like to offer a few tidbits and findings😁 1- Strippers Lie- I know this is shocking😡 But sadly this is true. 2- if you are decently attractive guy and go there long enough while treating dancers well, there is NOTHING that isn't on the table, trust me, I've been offered everything 3- The new chef at Cheeks is fantastic! Stopped in last night, had his chicken alfredo, 1-2/1 dance with the amazing London (no extras / classy) and left. 4. Strippers Lie 5. Avoid the VIP's! More cameras there than some couch areas. 6. You are not that incredible, good looking and witty (refer to points 1 and 4😜 7. 95 % of strippers have really screwed up lives.

  13. #2041

    Cheeks Facts

    After a little over a year of being a "Cheeks Regular" it's becoming time to shut this area of life down. As a humanitarian, I'd like to offer a few tidbits and findings😁 1- Strippers Lie- I know this is shocking😡 But sadly this is true. 2- if you are decently attractive guy and go there long enough while treating dancers well, there is NOTHING that isn't on the table, trust me, I've been offered everything 3- The new chef at Cheeks is fantastic! Stopped in last night, had his chicken alfredo, 1-2/1 dance with the amazing London (no extras / classy) and left. 4. Strippers Lie 5. Avoid the VIP's! More cameras there than some couch areas. 6. You are not that incredible, good looking and witty (refer to points 1 and 4😜 7. 95 % of strippers have really screwed up lives.

  14. #2040

    Cheeks

    Quote Originally Posted by WanderingAbout  [View Original Post]
    Cheeks dance card.

    Single dance:

    Total $25. House cut $5. Dancer cut $20. Guy cost per dance: $25. Dance time: 4 min.

    Two for 1:

    Total $25. House cut $5. Dancer cut $20. Guy cost per dance: $12.50. Dance time: 8 min. Dancers can offer two 2 fers to a customer unless its a slow night for club then club may have spontaneous two for one night.

    VIP dance:

    Total $250. House cut $50. Dancer cut $200. Guy cost per dance: about $30. Dance time: 30 min.
    I go to cheeks. Some girls are good looking. Some are friendly to talk to. I tried VIP once, waste of money. Not worth it. 2 for 1's are worth it.

  15. #2039

    Dance Money Math

    Cheeks dance card.

    Single dance:

    Total $25. House cut $5. Dancer cut $20. Guy cost per dance: $25. Dance time: 4 min.

    Two for 1:

    Total $25. House cut $5. Dancer cut $20. Guy cost per dance: $12.50. Dance time: 8 min. Dancers can offer two 2 fers to a customer unless its a slow night for club then club may have spontaneous two for one night.

    VIP dance:

    Total $250. House cut $50. Dancer cut $200. Guy cost per dance: about $30. Dance time: 30 min.

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