PH. Best times
I have had some of the best times at PH. Quality has usually been 8 + and have had FS for not more than 150 several times. The bouncers are friendly and if you stroke the right spot in their minds, they will even make some recommendation. I have always tipped the bouncers to solicit primo info and then go in for the kill. Just love to work it that way. Now I have the bouncer watching out for me to ensure I have the best spot in the VIP and do get disturbed till I walk out of there.
Yes. It's all about the money. Believe it or not. Be upfront and negotiate upfront. The sc scene is the best in the dtw metro area.
As for #3, the VIP strategy, here are my thoughts. Why waste $20 for VIP entrance and another $20-$25 / song for a few songs just to see if there is chemistry between you and a stripper or just to feel them out? The object is not to have a love affair with her. For that price you could already have had a BJ, and even the worst BJ I've ever had is good. I used to beat around the Bush and be shy about asking but not for the past 2 years. I don't let a girl sit down with me I'm not attracted to. If I let a girl sit down with me it's because I want extras from her. I get right to the point after only a few minutes of small talk. These girls have heard it all, they won't be offended. The clubs I go to 90% of the girls do extras so it's not like any of them are offended if you ask. If you wait til you get in the VIP to negotiate, you have lost your negotiating power and your dick takes over for your brain. I always bring cover. The bouncers all know what goes on back there, so who do you think you're kidding? I just come right out and say do you do extras while I'm sitting out at the table. She usually says yes 90% of the time. Then I ask what kind of extras, BJ only, FS, what exactly. Then I negotiate the price. They usually ask for twice what the are willing to settle for in a lot of cases. I end up paying usually $100-$150 tops for FS for the clubs I goto and these are for girls I'd rate an 8. I've got BJ's for as little as $50. Don't beat around the Bush, just come right out and tell them what you want. The end of the shift may be your best time to negotiate if the girl hasn't made enough money. I have been the benefit of that several times.
Thanks! This is what I needed. Yes, that's pretty clear, but just want to make sure. You pay her the negotiated price once you are in the VIP with her but before 'the act'?
I cruise this forum because I can't wait to get back to Detroit!
I was up last year, about this time, stayed at the hotel right across the street from Bazooki's. We were obviously happy to see such an establishment so close as we were on our way to check in. Anyway, we checked it out after dinner and had a great time. Friendly girls, pretty cheap dances with lots of contact (compared to Ohio). But, the best part was some blonde gave me a HJ during the dance; sorry I don't remember her name. She had to be discreet about it because the chair was pretty much out in the open, but that didn't stop her. I tipped her after the dance because we hadn't talked about it before. I wasn't a member of USASG at the time and had no idea of how things worked in detroit. She was looking around a lot to make sure nobody saw. She probably was the exception there, none of the other dancers brought up the topic.
Thanks to everybody for their reports; I'll use the info next time I visit.
The 10 (or 20 or whatever) is a VIP entrance fee you pay on the way to the VIP. The girl will lead you. Then when you're in the VIP you give the girl whatever you negotiated with her, then I don't think anybody cares how many songs as long as you don't take forever. The 100 or 150 or whatever you agreed on is for the service you agreed on, not the time or number of songs. For me it's like 1 or 2 songs because I have no control, but I've read here where others claim to go 10 or 20 minutes. Hope that helps.
You essentially negotiate what you'll give the dancer and for what services at the table. You go back to the VIP, which are private curtained rooms, sometimes with a tax you have to pay the bouncer to go back there, get whatever done by her, and then pay her when done. That's the average in the Detroit clubs, although there are some that are somewhat different. If you're just getting dances, then it's the same, except for, no negotiated price beforehand, the dancer just charges you an amount for how many dances she did in all for you in the back.
Bogart's Night Shift
My two recent trips on nightshift were not good at all. The dayshift talent last Friday was marginal; the nightshift talent was not as good. I returned on Saturday night and received a full court press from BeBe, who I find WAY too annoying to be within 100 yards of. She was rude as hell, ugly, and a space cadet to boot. I left half my drink on the table and walked out. She just wouldn't leave using the conventional methods. I didn't want to be a the* and say "Get the F* away from me!", which might have worked. If she hounds me the next time I'm in, I'll avoid the night shift.
I do not feel that the Inkster, or Dearborn area clubs are very dangerous. I personally would avoid the Detroit clubs on Michigan, or anywhere inside Detroit simply for the reason that I avoid those areas in general, the police will not be arriving for a very long time if they are called.
The only person I know who suffered a stolen car while at a strip club had it stolen out of the valet parking at an 8 mile club. I personally will no longer give my keys to the stranger working the valet parking at a strip joint. This means that I will not go to any club with required valet parking unless someone else is driving me there in their car.
I also remember (years ago) parking on a residential street behind an 8 mile club, then being threatened by a parking attendant that he would see to it that our car would be vandalized for avoiding his fee. Fortunately, he did not see which car on the street was ours.
Thanks for all the info! Much appreciated.
I'm still not completely getting the VIP thing. Are you saying you can go back and do a VIP for just $20 or is this a couch dance for $20 and if I like the girl go back in the VIP? In Indy, well at the club I go to the most. There is the couch dance room (open area with couches). Price is $20 per song. And then there are VIP rooms in the back (more like small closets) that cost $150 for a half hour. These are the standard prices with typically no negotiating. But there's no negotiating because extras never happen (okay, maybe I've had some a couple of times. But very rare and random).
With the couch dances you pay when you're done. With the VIP they HAVE to have the money upfront. It's a rule there. I'm thinking with the negotiating that goes on in Detroit clubs is the etiquette to pay after the 'deed' is done or before and trust that you're getting what you paid for?
Suppose this is the same Heidi that used to dance at Henrys North?
I had a few hours to kill early this afternoon so I decided to head over to Club Venus and watch some titties bouce around up on stage. I got in there and sat down and short time later this cute little waitress came over and took my order. It was too early for alcohol so I just ordered a water and sat back and watched the talent up on stage. A short time later this nice looking blonde came over and introduced herself. She said her name was Heidi. She sat down next to me and we watched the girls dance up on stage then we talked for a bit. I decided I'd make today my first hot stripper / escort type experience of the year. I let it be know to her that I was looking to spend some time in the VIP area if extras were available. I ended up negotiating some pussy in the VIP for a Franklin. Before we could go to the back room she had to take her turn up on stage. I was glad I was able to sit back and watch this girl up on stage before I fucker her. She had the nice long blonde hair, tight spinner type body and all I could think about when she was up on stage was, damn, I'm going to hit that in a minute. When she was done on stage she came back over to the table then we made our way over to the VIP. We got back there and I got comfortable then she came over and sat on my lap. She just started rubbing on my dick and it didn't take it long to become hard as a rock. I pulled her shirt down and started sucking on her titties and finally she was like, are you ready to fuck Heidi's pussy. I was like yeah. She unzipped my fly and pulled my dick out then went into her purse and pulled out a condom. (I know, but it was a must with her). She put the condom on my dick then hopped on and started riding my dick backward. After about ten minutes I turned her around so I could see those titties jiggle arourd while she rode my dick. She had a nice tight pussy, and it took me a while because of the condom, but I finally nutted. After our time together in the VIP we went back over to the table and I ordered her a drink. She sat at the table and had two drinks with me while we watched the girls up on stage. I think all total between drinks and VIP I ended up spending about one twenty. Thats is a little more than I like spending for about an hour and a half of company but I had nothing else to do. Why not fuck a nice looking stripper. I think I would repeat with this girl. I think the only negative about this girl is she always speaks about herself in the third person. Do you want to fuck Heidi's pussy. You want Heidi's this, or Heidi wants that. Got a little annoying after a while.
Explorer 46 and others give some good info. The Detroit clubs are safe if you use the valet-personally, I'd not park on the street at a Detroit club no matter how expensive the valet is. I stay away from La Chambre and Chapeau Vert on Telegraph-they are dumps IMO, and the neighborhoods nearby are not good. I would say the same about H8N-that place is a dump too (again IMO) , and the neighborhood sucks. The bar is right in a residential area of Inkster. Bogart's (no valet) and FC (valet) are kind of isolated from residential areas. Dearborn (or Southgate) is ok pretty much wherever you are. On street or public lot parking is generally safe.
Safe Travels, and Regards,
Or you can keep your coat on at BTs. Coat check is optional there, unlike other joints.
You will be ok
Like the other guy said the area of Dearborn and Inkster are safe for the most part. I happen to prefer the fc over all other bars. Its a bit pricier but worth it in my oppinion. I always use the valet as it assures your car will be safe while you play. Also be sure to watch speed limits in the Inkster and Dearborn area. They write alot of tickets in these areas for speeding. Have fun and ask for Monica at the fc.
Arrived late afternoon so I missed the lunch crowd which means the place was dead. Sat at the bar one stool away from two gals playing with there phones. Didn't even have my drink when a Choco. Started talking and caressing me (to much to soon). She does offer extra's, average gal with a "big butt". Politely turned her away.
Two gals one stool away talking and playing with their phones engaged me with some convo. That centered on the tip out and who they had to pay. The brunette was Jackie and the other was a taller blond with big bolt ons who complained about not making any money today yet never tried to sell a dance.
The best looking girl in the place was Miranda, the shot girl who never made any rounds in over two hours. In fact, I talked to her and she told me she hates to push drinks LOL. Then I thought maybe she had something else going on on but didn't pick up vibes on that.
Talked to another Choco. Who said she was new. The interesting part was she didn't want to play in the Club but said she would see me OTC is I wanted. Digits provided.
As it was time for shift change I stayed to see if something enticing would appear. At this time I buddied with another guy at the bar exchanging war stories. A sharp looking gal sat next to him (night shift). When she went to dance he said she was also intelligent but no extra's.
I don't think I've ever been to a Club on a Monday and didn't expect much. The second string was on the field.
Oh, I called Tycoons asking about a gal and was told they eliminated the 20 VIP tax. I'll have to go down there and find out the details as I'm sure Management just re-arranged the green.