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  1. #5177

    Shifting landscape from the past two decades

    Bottom Line, the scene in Phx keeps getting worse. The "Golden" day's are gone, probably never to return.

    I state this with the following observations over the past two decades:

    In the early 2000's there were names like Desert Divas, TLC, and another I can't remember; Beautiful women and excellent diverse cuisine. LEO shut them down and posted the names of over 5000 men in the local papers.

    In the mid / late 2000's The AMPs, especially the one on Curry, and a group called Arizona Asians introduced us to beautiful Korean cooking, and actually things got better, but only if you were into Asians. But after a few years Arizona Asians fell apart and Curry could not bring In beautiful delicacies of the past. This was due mostly to our countries economic problems, and not LEO related. But LEO were shutting down MPs in Scottsdale and Phoenix. LEO knows, and never goes away.

    Once those places left in the 2010 timeframe they were replaced by Thai. The "Golden" places were the only ones where you could get non-Thai.

    The Thai cuisine dominated for years, and guys who liked cheaper food, which was probably great for many; but eventually LEO sniffed around enough to make this Thai cuisine unavailable around 2-3 years ago.

    Then there was only The "Golden" places. They were making great food for years, seemed to be in kind suburbs of the metro are, so naturally it seemed like they knew what they were doing. The demise of these fine establishments is LEO related. I will not elaborate further, nor through PM.

    LEO has also been involved with running out some independent Asian eateries over the past two years as well. I'm sure non Asian cuisine has been equally diminished, but that's out of my wheelhouse.

    So what does this mean? I don't think anything will come back. I know Asian chefs who won't touch Arizona with a 10 foot pole. We are not perceived as a safe and friendly state.

    And yes, LEO does read these forums. So, the info is all there in the above chronology. And no, there is absolutely nothing any well meaning reader of this forum can do to change the reality of what has happened to the Phoenix scene.

    I'd recommend being a bit more discrete with info you post, or even share in PM. But people will post and PM as they will. Best of luck to all. Stay safe this holiday season.

  2. #5176
    Wow, Cee Cee is still there? I was at this place a couple times. I wouldn't say it's a Golden replacement but it's not bad. I was there a couple times in the summer, first time got a pretty 20 something with great natural boobs. She was not very enthusiastic but was very cute. The next time I got Cee Cee and you are on point with her. She's ok looking but very into her profession. In my dream she begged for the little guy like it had the antidote! I took the BJ only and she was great. I only go FS if they are hot. Is this a Golden replacement, no. Golden's girls were the hottest Asian girls I've seen irl but this place is not bad. I'm going to try the one on Alma School and baseline and toftt soon and report. TBH I don't think we'll find anything like golden or M10 out there right now. If anyone finds anything close please let us know!

    Quote Originally Posted by Boomer700  [View Original Post]
    Had a dream today, went to check this 'Golden replacement' out. In short, awesome. Seems there is no mamason, just whoever is available. I drew Cee Cee (she pronounced it She She). Cute, tiny, barely 5 foot, hard bolt ons, but, fun as hell! Not a knockout but definitely makes up for it in accommodating attitude. What a wild dream, she's a fucking machine!

    Walked in, paid for an hour but she said it would be a 10 minute wait, was actually a 20 min wait. No problem, I was done working for the day. She put a pillow on the table, told me to lay down and relax. I did, face up, no cover, when she did come back in. Tip was on the little table but I really don't think she saw it. We went to the table shower, above average. I keep my fun zone bare, no hair at all (laser hair removal), she seemed to really like that. She said 'you're beautiful!' She washed my fun zone about 4 times. LOL!

    Back to the room, I'm face down, she comes back in, trys a rather lame massage but lots of teasing. Lots of back street ball playing. She did some light butterfly kisses on my back and butt, then I hear some clothing being removed then I feel bare titties on my back and butt, very nice. After about 15 minutes she asks if I want to turn over. Yes, yes I do. Hehe!

    As I flipped I hear the rest of her clothes coming off. Very nice. I just love cute little behinds and hers fit the bill. Here comes the cover and some very sloppy BJ, intentional slurping sounds, I started laughing, couldn't help it. Talk about working it. Need to point out, no discussion of any tip ever took place. I love it that way. Anyway, the cover is on and she's slurping away like it's the last blow pop she will ever have. After a few minutes she climbs up on top for some RCG. God what a view! My dick plowing into that little pussy, made it tough to last very long. Then she starts sitting and grinding on me. A minute before I blow, she clamped down on me, showing some real skills! Wow! This chick knows how! Boom! I'm done. What a wild ride!

    She pulled the cover and cleaned me up with a warm towel. Gave a few minutes more of the not so great massage on my legs then one of you fuckers came in and ruined my dream. LOL!

    All in, 6 for the hour and I think $. 4 fell out of my pocket when I was getting undressed. What a day! Can't wait to see how the next dream goes. 😀.

  3. #5175

    Anti Hobby Probation

    What will you do besides the hobby? Maybe try to become a sovereign citizen at least?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chiksika  [View Original Post]
    Hi Gents,

    Having indulged in many an AMP experience dream, I've had those times where I wake up feeling like the emperor of all known lands, and only a very few where I feel rather ashamed, suckered and in need of a vigorous shower. Unfortunately, this one rendezvous today was the latter.

    Having recently relocated from another sunny state down south, I decided to try my first Phoenix AMP. Scanned BP ads and chose a place on 103 and Coggins, which was convenient at the time (error #1 - RTFF).

    I walk into a large lobby, and am greeted at the typical service window by a cute, young Asian gal, who however looks a bit disheveled and less than fresh, like she had just been tag teamed by two Olympic wrestlers. I pay the 60 for an hour, and am led into a large room. She immediately trys to talk me into a 2 girl session, and won't stop with the sales pitch. I relent for another $40 (error #2 - don't agree on 4 hands at a new place, especially not seeing the gal first).

    She leaves, and I start to undress. I do stop to look over at the table, and see that the sheet on the table is not clean (error #3 - don't get serviced at a place that does not appear hygenic). I point it out and she puts a clean towel over.

    I undress, she comes back in, and girl #2 kind of hides behind the door until I lay on my stomach. That worried me, I turned around to make sure she wasn't hideous, or that she wasn't a dude! After inspection I concluded she was an unattractive black gal.

    They both start rubbing me, with cheap baby oil, we make small talk. At least the Asian gal was hitting some of the right spots, the other gal was rubbing my forearm?

    After at most 5 minutes they ask me to turn over. At this point I made the only smart decision of the experience, and nicely ask the black gal to leave, to minimize monetary damage. She does, and the Asian gal grabs the oil and goes right for the finish. Oh wait, after she negotiates another 80 from me (error #4 - never let the little guy make the financial decisions. Yeah right).

    She works the finish with her hands, with gusto, but no finesse, and finally the massage is over.

    I walk out poorer, ashamed and in need of a hot shower.

    It almost makes a single guy want to break down and get a girlfriend (wait, what am I saying). Anyway, I'm putting myself on no hobby probation until 1/1/18.

    Happy Thanksgiving.

    Chiksika.

  4. #5174

    One that makes me rethink the hobby

    Hi Gents,

    Having indulged in many an AMP experience dream, I've had those times where I wake up feeling like the emperor of all known lands, and only a very few where I feel rather ashamed, suckered and in need of a vigorous shower. Unfortunately, this one rendezvous today was the latter.

    Having recently relocated from another sunny state down south, I decided to try my first Phoenix AMP. Scanned BP ads and chose a place on 103 and Coggins, which was convenient at the time (error #1 - RTFF).

    I walk into a large lobby, and am greeted at the typical service window by a cute, young Asian gal, who however looks a bit disheveled and less than fresh, like she had just been tag teamed by two Olympic wrestlers. I pay the 60 for an hour, and am led into a large room. She immediately trys to talk me into a 2 girl session, and won't stop with the sales pitch. I relent for another $40 (error #2 - don't agree on 4 hands at a new place, especially not seeing the gal first).

    She leaves, and I start to undress. I do stop to look over at the table, and see that the sheet on the table is not clean (error #3 - don't get serviced at a place that does not appear hygenic). I point it out and she puts a clean towel over.

    I undress, she comes back in, and girl #2 kind of hides behind the door until I lay on my stomach. That worried me, I turned around to make sure she wasn't hideous, or that she wasn't a dude! After inspection I concluded she was an unattractive black gal.

    They both start rubbing me, with cheap baby oil, we make small talk. At least the Asian gal was hitting some of the right spots, the other gal was rubbing my forearm?

    After at most 5 minutes they ask me to turn over. At this point I made the only smart decision of the experience, and nicely ask the black gal to leave, to minimize monetary damage. She does, and the Asian gal grabs the oil and goes right for the finish. Oh wait, after she negotiates another 80 from me (error #4 - never let the little guy make the financial decisions. Yeah right).

    She works the finish with her hands, with gusto, but no finesse, and finally the massage is over.

    I walk out poorer, ashamed and in need of a hot shower.

    It almost makes a single guy want to break down and get a girlfriend (wait, what am I saying). Anyway, I'm putting myself on no hobby probation until 1/1/18.

    Happy Thanksgiving.

    Chiksika.

  5. #5173

    Baseline & Extension. Cee Cee

    Had a dream today, went to check this 'Golden replacement' out. In short, awesome. Seems there is no mamason, just whoever is available. I drew Cee Cee (she pronounced it She She). Cute, tiny, barely 5 foot, hard bolt ons, but, fun as hell! Not a knockout but definitely makes up for it in accommodating attitude. What a wild dream, she's a fucking machine!

    Walked in, paid for an hour but she said it would be a 10 minute wait, was actually a 20 min wait. No problem, I was done working for the day. She put a pillow on the table, told me to lay down and relax. I did, face up, no cover, when she did come back in. Tip was on the little table but I really don't think she saw it. We went to the table shower, above average. I keep my fun zone bare, no hair at all (laser hair removal), she seemed to really like that. She said 'you're beautiful!' She washed my fun zone about 4 times. LOL!

    Back to the room, I'm face down, she comes back in, trys a rather lame massage but lots of teasing. Lots of back street ball playing. She did some light butterfly kisses on my back and butt, then I hear some clothing being removed then I feel bare titties on my back and butt, very nice. After about 15 minutes she asks if I want to turn over. Yes, yes I do. Hehe!

    As I flipped I hear the rest of her clothes coming off. Very nice. I just love cute little behinds and hers fit the bill. Here comes the cover and some very sloppy BJ, intentional slurping sounds, I started laughing, couldn't help it. Talk about working it. Need to point out, no discussion of any tip ever took place. I love it that way. Anyway, the cover is on and she's slurping away like it's the last blow pop she will ever have. After a few minutes she climbs up on top for some RCG. God what a view! My dick plowing into that little pussy, made it tough to last very long. Then she starts sitting and grinding on me. A minute before I blow, she clamped down on me, showing some real skills! Wow! This chick knows how! Boom! I'm done. What a wild ride!

    She pulled the cover and cleaned me up with a warm towel. Gave a few minutes more of the not so great massage on my legs then one of you fuckers came in and ruined my dream. LOL!

    All in, 6 for the hour and I think $. 4 fell out of my pocket when I was getting undressed. What a day! Can't wait to see how the next dream goes. 😀.

  6. #5172

    Baseline AMP

    Quote Originally Posted by AsianLoverMan  [View Original Post]
    I checked out AMP on Baseline (Nellie). They had BP ads on W4 M as well as Massage. Two good looking Chinese girls. I didn't get the better looking one, but the one I got, Sam, was pretty good. Paid. 6 house. Better than average TS, very good attitude. Pretty good, but short massage ending with extended playing with the boys. Offered $. 2 for everything but she settled for $. 4.

    She was very enthusiastic and offered multiple p*tions. Will certainly go back and hope to get to try the other one.
    What was the name of the place? Several AMP's on Baseline advertising on Backpage. Thanks!!

  7. #5171

    Clarification

    Quote Originally Posted by AsianLoverMan  [View Original Post]
    I checked out AMP on Baseline (Nellie). They had BP ads on W4 M as well as Massage. Two good looking Chinese girls. I didn't get the better looking one, but the one I got, Sam, was pretty good. Paid. 6 house. Better than average TS, very good attitude. Pretty good, but short massage ending with extended playing with the boys. Offered $. 2 for everything but she settled for $. 4.

    She was very enthusiastic and offered multiple p*tions. Will certainly go back and hope to get to try the other one.
    This place is no longer called Nellie Spa. 832.

  8. #5170

    Had good luck at a non AMP

    Realized everyone is discussing AMP but had good body rubs at Just Relax near 103 ave and Coggins. Though I dreamt is was kind of pricey: 50 door fee, a pleasant nude happy ending for $. 5, or covered FS for $$. Seem to remember sweet dreams with Alexa, Vivian, and Leah. No GFE, Alexa was talkative and dreamt of extensive time with her, Vivian was nutty in a fun way, and Leah was very pleasant too. Only problem was the long drive home when woke up in Sun City.

  9. #5169

    That's a bummer.

    Quote Originally Posted by HeadBanger  [View Original Post]
    I would've thought other members knowing the situation would've posted at least something innocuous to let everyone know that it's highly unlikely these places will be back. I'll share that I found out through a worker that they are relocating out of Arizona, and are unlikely to return.
    Enjoyed my experience there. In regards to the password, my first name and DOB was taken down with a Korean character written down for the password. Fortunately, told the truth when over the phone was asked if ever been there before, usually lie. Well that is too bad about closing though noticed in was in the same complex as a charter school, other massage businesses so in a why not a surprised it closed.

  10. #5168
    That the one near Extension? That one is not bad.

    Quote Originally Posted by AsianLoverMan  [View Original Post]
    I checked out AMP on Baseline (Nellie). They had BP ads on W4 M as well as Massage. Two good looking Chinese girls. I didn't get the better looking one, but the one I got, Sam, was pretty good. Paid. 6 house. Better than average TS, very good attitude. Pretty good, but short massage ending with extended playing with the boys. Offered $. 2 for everything but she settled for $. 4.

    She was very enthusiastic and offered multiple p*tions. Will certainly go back and hope to get to try the other one.

  11. #5167

    Mesa AMP, this one will not disappoint Golden boys

    I checked out AMP on Baseline (Nellie). They had BP ads on W4 M as well as Massage. Two good looking Chinese girls. I didn't get the better looking one, but the one I got, Sam, was pretty good. Paid. 6 house. Better than average TS, very good attitude. Pretty good, but short massage ending with extended playing with the boys. Offered $. 2 for everything but she settled for $. 4.

    She was very enthusiastic and offered multiple p*tions. Will certainly go back and hope to get to try the other one.

  12. #5166
    Quote Originally Posted by AsianLoverMan  [View Original Post]
    I haven't been to this place in a long time. In the past, it wasn't the best, but always reliable. I noticed they have a new glitzy ad on BP, and since Golden and M10, decided to give it a shot. A really hot looking spinner gave me table shower, so I was anticipating a lot. However, massage was entirely through a towel and only about ten minutes. On flip, offered HJ or BJ for $. 2, but I said I only give $. 2 for everything. Eventually, she relented, but it was horrible. Don't waste your time at this place.
    Thanks for the update, had been there years ago and was not memorable but do remember being shorted on time. Also the location, around the corner from Fry's and next to a coin laundry, a lot of traffic, if discretion is what you want not here.

  13. #5165

    Don't waste your time 5812, Glendale

    I haven't been to this place in a long time. In the past, it wasn't the best, but always reliable. I noticed they have a new glitzy ad on BP, and since Golden and M10, decided to give it a shot. A really hot looking spinner gave me table shower, so I was anticipating a lot. However, massage was entirely through a towel and only about ten minutes. On flip, offered HJ or BJ for $. 2, but I said I only give $. 2 for everything. Eventually, she relented, but it was horrible. Don't waste your time at this place.

  14. #5164
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike2018  [View Original Post]
    Hi guys,

    I've been reading this site for awhile and decided to finally post. What I'm really looking for is a really good massage with potential extras. I'd prefer someone that isn't part of a business if possible but I could do that. Preferably on the West side. It takes me about an hour to get to the East. I've seen Latina with the right touch but no luck there. I've tried places like relax station west side, Asian massage west side, 90210 and a few others. Tried the "other" places but I always feel like it is a rush and I do really like the build up of a good 90 minute massage. It always feels like a little foreplay to me but there should be a finale! Any assistance would be helpful. I'd try to give you guys some good leads but they just haven't been working for me but haven't been too much into the m10 type places. Thanks for your help!
    I have had good luck with The Great Spa 59 and Peoria I am not sure if they do 90 min but usually you get what you pay for.

  15. #5163
    Quote Originally Posted by DkPersonal  [View Original Post]
    I had a chance to stop by a few weeks ago and same mamasan that had been there the first time I went, this time she didn't even let me get a massage, she kept saying that I needed to go away. Like literally, told me to leave, I had no idea why and she started asking me if I had a membership number. I don't know what she was talking about. It was a really strange.
    I had a membership number at Golden. First name and DOB. Seemed to work, as the mamasan remembered me on return visits.

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