One of a kind experience
I have been a long term lurker here on this forum and never had a real reason to post a review of any kind up beofre. I mainly just saw the reviews other guys posted and followed the leads that they had to good escorts and such. I recently met a girl though from CL that changed all that and I think more guys should be aware of her and her services. I was introduced to this girl by a friend of mine who has been seeing her on a regular basis for almost a year now. I myself have seen her 4 times now, once every week and intend to keep seeing her if possible. She is a 30 something very cute BBW who mostly gives BJ's and always swallows. She especially loves sucking off much older guys in the 60's and older, but younger guys are welcome as well. I am only 43 and had no problem getting accepted. She is not exactly an escort though. It is an odd situation which sounds to good to be true at first and I kept looking for the catch in things. Surprisingly, it is just as described to me by both my friend and the girls husband.
Yes, husband. He handles everything for her and pre-screens all of the guys. If you are like me that is an instant red flag and my first reaction was to say no, but under my friends persuassion, I decided to stick things out and see where it went. He spoke very highly of the girls skill and oddly enough of the husband as well. It seems the girl absolutley loves to suck guys off and she always swallows for everyone. No facials or anything like cumming on her tits for her, she insists on swallowing. They even keep a spoon handy in case someone trys something different and misses the mark a bit. The spoon is for the guys to scoop all of their cum in and feed it to her. I haven't got to do this yet, but I want to.
The husband posts ads occasionally on CL looking for additional guys for certain types of what he calls "encounters" or to replace guys who they have lost touch with over time. This keeps her in a steady supply of dicks to suck and cum to swallow, which is what they are looking for mostly. Now at first, I had assumed that the husband was some sort of pimp or manager for this girl which I was not too crazy about, but again under my friends advice I stuck things out and began conversing with this guy. Like I mentioned he handles all of the initial contact, so you will be speaking to him mostly. His initial contact is done by sending you information in emails at first. The first email I got described a little bit about him and his wifes relationship, a brief overview of what she likes to do and what they are looking for exactly. It was a bit long to read, but informative. He then sends you an email containing about 20 questions. At first, I thought it was a bit much, but upon reading through the questions it turns out to be just fairly standard stuff, like ht, wgt, age, endowment size, cut or not, fantasies you might have, a few questions regarding STD's and health, availability, etc. So I decided to reply with my answers to see what happens.
He then sends out a few pictures of her. She is obviously a bigger girl, which he does tell you that from the beginning, so no surprise there. She is very cute, with very beautiful eyes and ncie full lips. I immediately beganthinking how great it would be to have her sucking my cock while looking down into those beautiful eyes of hers. Also included are some tit pics as well. Her tits are huge. Personally I am not a fan big breast. So to me they were just okay. After responding back to him he sends this large, detailed email with all of their information. It includes a brief history of how they got into doing this, her likes, dislikes, house rules, what is acceptable or not, how they get tested regularly, their expectations for the guys to do the same, how they are looking more for long term fwb types more than anyhting else and details about donations. A lot of information.
The husband is very forthcoming about things and about what they expect. I was admittedly intrigued by certain portions of it and knowing this girls history sort of added to my excitement in seeing her. He also sends outadditional emails detailing special sorts of encounters of fantasies they are looking to fulfill for her. Most involved her and a group of guys. I am not into the whole group thing myself, but there are a few of them on the list that did catch my attention and had me thinking about the possibilities.
As for donations, there really wasn't anything set in stone. Again this created a red flag for me instantly. I spoke to my friend about this and he assured me that everything was just like it said in the information. There is no real donations. Only once a year for her birthday in January does the husband ask for anything and then it is only $5 from each person to go toward a single gift for her. That's it. Any other donations are at the discretion of the guys. My friend says he usually gives her 20 each time, but has said there was a couple of times he gave her nothing just to test the waters and he also gave her 60 one time for her birthday. Admittedly, I was surprised by this. Since meeting them I have myself given her 20 the first time, nothing the next two visits and 20 the last time. I tried to give it to the husband the first time and he said no if I wanted to give it to her I had to give it to her myself. In his words it is not about the money. She likes to suck & swallow for other guys. She enjoys it, he enjoys watching her and the guys get a fantastic BJ from a pretty girl who swallows every last drop.
The husband does watch, but not in the way you would think. When I first read this portion of the e-mail I was instantly on the phone with my friend and asking him WTF? The husband doesn't just sit and watch you. He actually films you. He does this so he can watch things later after everyone has left and they have their private time together. He does tell you about this in the e-mail exchanges and is very upfront about it. I was completely against the idea, until my friend explained it in more detail. Even then I was still freaked out by it during our first time together. Now it doesn't really bother me, but it does take a bit of getting used to. The way the husband has it set up is that you enter this curtained off area where she does the BJ's. He has his cameras set up to only take closeups of her face while she is sucking you off and once she finishes she turns to the camera flicks the cum around in her mouth then turns back to you doing the same thing and swallows it all down before licking you clean. Sometimes he will hand you a camera or a cell phone and ask you to either take pics or video of her while she sucking you off. Personally, I enjoyed this. I got to direct her while she sucked me off. Telling her to look up at me, to go down deep, to use her tongue in a specific way, etc. It was a turn on for me at least. Everything about the visits with them are a bit surreal. He sits at the computer and plays a mix of music during the encounters and keeps an eye on things via the camera. He has it hooked up so that he can watch things as they are being filmed. This allows you to see it as well. He mostly just glances at the tv once in a while I imagine to see how things are progressing and I am sure to make sure she is alright and that no one is mistreating her. This is especially true when there is more than one person present. He spends most of his time bouncing between the computer and chatting with those waiting their turns to really take in what is happening behind the curtain, but he does look out for her without being intrusive. From what I have been told they erase most of the videos after they have had a chance to watch them. He admittedly keeps a few of the better ones in safe storage. They do not post the videos, sale them, distribute them, trade them or publish them in any manner. I actually offered to buy one from them after my second visit and I was told no. They do not want to take the chance of any of the videos or pics getting out on the internet since it is her face that is on them and it shows her sucking guy after guy off and swallowing for them. As they explained it they are afraid her family, friends, co-workers or employers would find out and it would destroy her. Since it is only the guys cock that is visible, I can understand this and am okay with the filming now. It took me a couple of visits to get by the cameras, but once you do and relax a bit more, things get even better.
The husband usually trys to schedule the guys in groups. Again I am not very fond of group scenes of any sort myself and he knew this before our first meeting. He tried to accomadate me and still does as per my preference, but it does overlap with other guys at times. The first time I was the only one there with her. I sucked and played with her tits for about ten minutes after talking to her for a few minutes and was back in the curtained off area with her giving me one of the best BJ's I have ever had when another guy decided to show up early. It was a bit of a wood killer for me at first, but within a few minutes she had me forgetting all about the other guy being there and it wasn't long after that I flooded her mouth with a nice big load that I had been saving up for about a week. She swallowed it all down like a champ. Afterwards, the other gentleman took his turn and I proceeded to get dressed. The husband sat and talked to me a bit and asked me if I thought I could take an additional turn. I said maybe. We sat and conversed about a variety of things all while his wife was displayed on the television in front of us and sitting in the curtained off area not 20 ft away sucking this other guy off like her life depended on it.
Again it was very surreal and despite my dislike of the whole group thing found myself getting aroused again by watching her. Once the other gentleman finished, she once again showed the camera what she had in her mouth and swallowed it all down. She came out of the curtained area with him and we all sat down for a few minutes and chatted. The gentleman who had just came said his goodbyes, said he would see them next week and left. After a few minutes chatting with her, she asked if I wanted to go again and I said sure. She gave me a second BJ and swallowed again with the same gusto she had on the first one. Another gentleman had shown up just before I had finished and while I was getting dressed another showed up as well. The husband sat and chatted with everyone while his wife once again sucked off another guy only a few feet away. I was amazed at the whole situation. The husband was very casual in regards to everything and I found myself enjoying the conversation with him as well. He was not an asshole about anything and kept the guys company whowas waiting their turns. I ended up staying for a bit and watching his wife swallow for the third guy and begin sucking on the fourth guy. The guy who just finished sat in the buff while we chatted and was waiting for his next turn. It was like watching a porn movie, with the added benefit of experiencing the action myself. While I still do not like the group sessions as much as my private times with her, I have come to accept them and donot mind them as much as I did previously. Since seeing them I have had two complete private times with her and two groups with her. The last group was all scheduled at the same time so there was like 6 guys waiting there just as I finished my second turn with her. Even though I was asked if I wanted to go again for a third turn, I decided that twice was enough for me, asI did not want to overstay my welcome.
There is no real time limit set, but they do ask, especially in the groups if you can try to keep it between 10 - 20 minutes per BJ. Honestly I had a hard time lasting ten minutes with her. As do most of the other guys I have seen her with. As the husband explained to me the faster everyone cums, the more turns everyone gets, which works out for those of us that can go 2 or 3 times in a relatively short space of time. He encourages those who cannot go more than once to extend things out a bit by talking to her, asking her to go slower if needed, asking to suck / play with her tits or worse case scenario just asking her to stop for a minute. She is perfectly happy if you last 2 minutes or 20. Beyond that though the husband confided in me that she tends to start getting tired, feels like she is doing something wrong and starts feeling a bit frustrated if the guy takes longer than 20 minutes. If you are in a group or there is other guys waiting for their turns and you have not cum in 30 minutes the husband will ask you to take a break so someone else can take their turn. I personally have not seen this myself, but my friend has and both he and the husband told me about it. The trick is to relax and enjoy it without really holding back. Let her do her thing and enjoy it. So far I have got 2 full BJ's each visit. Each BJ lasts about 10 - 15 minutes and I get to cum twice and watch her swallow twice. That is not counting the time spent playing with her tits, watching her suck someone else off while I am recuperating or chatting with them. My visits are usually between 45 minutes to an hour or so. I could stay longer if I wished, but personally I feel that I have imposed enough on their time after so long, especially after receiving two of the best blowjobs you can imagine. She is a true cumslut and seems to really enjoy swallowing all that cum from everyone and I find that I am more than happy to oblige her in being one of the lucky guys able to feed her.
The husband will exchange numbers with you and voice verify with you prior to meeting. He will even arrange for you to speak to her if you want. The husband insists on meeting everyone before hand at a public place and then they follow him back to their house. Upon meeting the wife, I was both pleasantly surprised and disappointed at the same time. She is a bit bigger than I had imagined, but she is most definitely the girl in the pics and she is still very cute. Her tits, as I mentioned before are huge. Not being a fan of large breast, my perosnal opinion of them were they were just okay. A little saggy, but if you like large breasts then you will havea fun time. Fucking, fingering her, daty is done at her discretion only and from what the husband has told me she is extremely particular on who gets to do that. He said only like 3-4 other guys have got to fuck her. The other stuff like daty slightly more, but again very limited number. Anal is completely off the table unless you happen to be very small endowed. The husband is actually looking for someone who is an older gentleman (60+), with a small thin penis to anally train her for him. The idea being she will get used to the smaller guy and move up to something a bit bigger until he himself can fuck her in the as as well. I naturally volunteered for this, but it was determined that I was too big for what she was looking for. They do offer some group encounters with the opportunity to fuck her, but they require a certain number of guys to be present. Which from what he told me has not panned out as of yet, since he cannot find enough suitable guys who he can arrange at the same time for them.
Overall it is worth it just for the BJ's. She is great. She loves to use her tongue, particularly around the head and is very enthusiastic about pleasing the guys. Add in the fact she always swallows and uses her tongue to clean you up after is perfect. The donations for the service is descretionary and would be 50-80 anywhere else, but here it is 20 and everyones happy. Like I said before though you don't have to donate at all, but I honestly felt bad not doing so. There is no difference in the encounters if you don't donate, but I honestly believe she deserves it for the services she provides.
1) Great, top quality BBBJCIM + she always swallows.
2) Multiple BJ's per visit for those who want them.
3) Little to no cost for the services.
4) She loves what she does which makes it that much better of an experience.
5) It is a safe & secure environment for everyone involved.
6) The girl matches the pics and is very cute, considering her larger size.
7) The husband seems to go out of his way to make you feel as comfortable as possible.
8) A very unique & surreal experience overall.
9) The girl is intelligent, very friendly & likes to chat with the guys afterwards.
10) The husband is quite intelligent himself, very easy going & easy to talk to.
11) They offer a wide range of possible choices for the types of encounters. Most are groups scenarios, but there is something for everyone it seems.
12) Everything is how it is described to you. No hidden agendas or surprises.
13) When you do get stuck as part of a group it is like watching a porn while you are waiting for your turn, so it is still entertaining.
14) Both of them are super nice, try their best to make you feel comfortable in their home & do their best to accomadate for each specific persons needs.
15) Nice big tits, which are there for the taking upon each visit. If you like big tits then you will love it.
16) They are both tested on a monthly basis and ask the other guys to do so as well.
17) Conveniently located in East Central Phoenix and very easy to schedule appointments with them.
1) She is a bit bigger than I had imagined, but still cute.
2) They have two dogs, both are friendly, but the little one barks anytime someone comes in or leaves, which gets a bit annoying.
3) Most of the encounters are done in groups or your time may overlap with another guys visit.
4) Being filmed. I was not too crazy about this & even though I fully understand his reasons for doing it, the lights and cameras are a bit of a distraction until you get used to it.
5) The husband smokes. Sometimes inside the house, but usually he tries to keep it outside as much as possible.
6) The fact they are only available on Saturdays once a week between 1 pm & 5 pm and the occasional Sunday afternoon.
7) Group encounters tend to take precedence over individual ones. They will try to work you in, but the groups do come first it seems.
Overall, I can honestly say that I am quite happy that my friend invited me to try this. The girls enthusiasm and oral skills are top notch. The fact she alway swallows is a huge plus. She is very cute and loves what she does. The cost is very little and honestly I believe she deserves much more than she gets. The good things far outweigh the bad and I encourage anyone who is tired of all the bs scammers, rip offs, fakes, price hikers, over priced services, etc to give this girl a chance. It is not for everybody, but to those who can appreciate a great BJ, some nice companionship without all the stress and drama then this could be perfect for you. If you like group scenes with one girl sucking and swallowing for a bunch of guys multiple times then this is definitely for you. He tends to base the results of his pre-screening based a lot on the persons personality, so if you are an asshole he will most likely not accept you. If you are 60+ years of age or have friends who you can invite along with you for your visits then you will most likely receive preferential treatment, since this is what they are looking for the most. I mentioned this site to the husband and asked him if they were part of it and he said no. I asked him if I could write a review of them and include a couple of pics and their contact information and he said that was okay, as long as I did not post their names or contact information directly on the forum. So I am including a face pic of her that was approved by him and a pic of her tits. He said I could share the contact info if anyone here wants it. Just send me a pm and I will get back to you as soon as I can.
I have been trolling the Craigslist ads the past several weeks and reporting on some finds. Been looking under the causal encounters section. Since a lot of these ads either get flagged or removed there are no links. Responded to the pic of the blonde ad. She says in ad that she will start massage on massage table and end up in her bed. The pic is her but old. She has put on some poundage since. No curves, more like the shape of a minion! Tells me what to expect before start. Says she will give me a thorough masage for an hour and after things will get fun. Keeps to her word. Massage back and front for an hour but no teasing. After the hour she asks me if I would like to continue. We continue. She slowly takes her time as she starts to tease me. She touches me where she had not before. She works her way around the table and pulls her top down. It might of been better if she left it up as I was not impress with her boobs whatsoever! She strokes me occasionally and puts her face close to my rising member. I am wondering where this is leading to! She is doing a good job teasing but no pleasing. After about 10 minutes of this she starts a very slow BBBJ. She takes her time and does not rush it. After about 10 minutes of this really good BJ I cim. She goes to bathroom to spit it out. Well worth the price of admission! She did not meet my needs on look but the service was good!
I didn't realize there was this background on this topic. The last time I tried something like this was 3+ yrs ago. Results weren't good, only spam responses. My hobby phone recently crapped out on me, I need to get a new one and try this. I did have some luck a while back on an ATF which loved to screw and oftentimes didn't want any gifts. But she quit the biz to have kids, etc. Bummer. It's been hit or miss ever since. Seeing posts like this gives me hope.
Santa did his homework LOL.
That write up was a beautiful thing.
As for ad flagging, yeah, it's bad. You have to use very innocuous terms while trying to get your gist across. It's definitely been more difficult, but still possible.
How are you able to post without getting flagged? Seems like every post I put up is getting flagged this month.
How are you able to post on CL without getting flagged? Seems like every time I post something, it gets flagged no matter what I do to change it up. This month has been one of the worst for flagging.
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There are a lot of actionable takeaways in the posts above.
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People on this forum are usually very helpful and there is a lot of information here if you, Rocknroll702, are interested.
Moloch2233 has apparently had success and wrote:
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Not to speak for Foundation but I think his success at this point is not luck but based upon his determination (and willingness to try new things) which leads to increasing skill. He's been posting CL ads at least a year and half and he's mentioned testing them to see if they got his desired results. He has shared some clues in his older posts (excerpts below):
"Maybe if she knew who I was, but I use Pinger to chat and fake gmail accounts." - Post 2383
"I've been having a little more luck on CL too. No visits yet, but have settled into a method that seems to work and 4 ladies I have vetted a bit." - Post 2395
"On a side note she was in some offbeat pageant, the 2012 Michigan Miss Fillipino or something. She is a stunner and a nympho. If only I could feel safe with her and talk her into accepting $. Ah well. This one has played out." - Post 2394
"So after months of trying CL sporadically with varying ads I got a hit on an ad requesting a sugar baby or FWB. I posted the ad nothing special and a week or so later I got a response from a beautiful, 22 yo, blonde, blue eyed, girl next door nympho." - Post 2351
"I found if I am the one to respond to ads I get scams and fakes. It takes a long time and really goes feast or famine it seems. Right now I am in a feast. Once I have one on the hook, I have them send me a pic of their kitty with the name I am using somewhere in the pic." - Post 2397
From these we can see he:
"So I met this baby on CL through an ad I posted. We some going back and forth and I told her I do not pay for sex, but looking for a baby to spend time with and help with allowance or whatnot. She initially said no, because she is looking for gifts. Ok, well I persuade her that is exactly what I was interested and we exchange some pics, texts, chatsnaps, and texts (through Pinger for me)." - Quoted in Post 2365
* Doesn't use his real name in the ads.
* Realized that if he responds to ads he doesn't have any luck.
* "Refined" some method that has increasingly brought him success.
* Uses "varying" ads. (instead of one or two and hoping for the best).
* Tried "sporadically" for months. (instead of trying once or twice and giving up).
* Makes them send a pic of their kitty and his name. (Possibly demonstrating that he takes charge, means what he says, and won't flake).
* Vetts the ladies. (I'm guessing that instead of feeling like they are doing him the favor he has a vibe of it being equally beneficial).
* If a girl says "No" he starts persuading instead of giving up. (I'm also guessing he doesn't get angry and call them names or accuse them of wasting his time).
* Used one that possibly was looking for a "Sugar Baby or FWB" (perhaps there is some positive psychological effect here by offering to donate OR just have fun?
* Mentioned that in his experience the availability of the girls is cyclical (letting you know to persist and try again later as you may just be the low part of the cycle).
* Uses fake email but also Pinger which is a "free texting and calling app by Pinger. Get a real number so you can text and call anyone, even if they don't have the app. ".
* He doesn't come of as needy. (She can be a hot nympho but he still puts his safety and $ above the kitty. This probably makes him seem really chill so the girl doesn't think he'll fall in love with them or stalk them).
* Says he won't pay for sex but wants a Sugar Baby to spend time with and help with allowance. [I'm guessing he doesn't usually say he does pay for sex which would be an issue if LEO was on the other end of the communication).
* Gets them hooked somehow. (I have no idea how but he mentioned in a post smoking out with a chic and most "smokers" I know are really non-judgmental and relaxed and so that could be arousing and comforting to a girl especially if she is the one contacting you through the ad).
While I fully understand that my thoughts on why something might have worked or what he does are very likely wrong, I feel he gave good information on how to increase ads-to-sex conversions.
Man, she looks hot! Nice score. I've never lucked out on finding a non-pro setup like that. I'm tempted to try seeking arrangement and other places like that, but it looks too scripted and fake to me for them to be real non-pros.
Both are non-pro, average chics just looking for supplemental income. Trial and error is what really works. I've tried responding to ads, but I have never in two years received a legit response. Her is some pics of the married chic.
What's your secret?!
Are you putting up ads? I'd love to learn how you're finding these gems. What's that chica's contact info? As long as you're not bb, should be all good.
Last 9 months or so.
I've had great luck in the last 9 months or so. Met a young 21 yo, very beautiful spinner that looks white, mexican, maybe a splash of native american. We were meeting at least once a month for a 2 hour session or so at $. 6. GFE, dfk, all positions, but a little reserved. About 3 month ago condom fails and we end up doing it bb from there on until I find out she is married and has a chasing the dragon problem. Been doing regular std testing and clean so far.
Put another ad up and got interest from a very pretty black girl. 19 yo, perfect ass, small waist, and perky natural ddds. It has been heaven with her. I've never had sex like this in my life! She'll turn music on and sing to me while gazing into my eyes and it just makes me crazy with lust. We spent 5 hours together Friday night in a jacuzzi suite and it was magical. 4 nuts and probably had another in me but she was getting sore, so we ended up cuddling and talking the last 2 hours. I can't stop thinking about her. I think I am in deep this time.
CL ad posted today asking for help. A bit curvier than I normally go for, but I figured I'd investigate. All done thru txt. Said her name is Karen. Can't host, no car, so she needed a ride to / from 48th&McDowell. Asked her what the damage would be, and she said $ FH. I laughed and wrote her off. She texted back OBO. Ok fine, this could be interesting, so I decide to TOFTT. She says to meet at the Jack on the corner. I drive by, she isn't outside, but a couple shady characters are, not unusual for the area. Drive up the street, wait a couple, swing back, see her, pull into the parking lot and wave her over. She hops in. She told me she was a size 18, more like 22/24, 34 yo, more like 44 yo, her picture is from a low angle, her breasts arent that big, and there's a reason why she has a closed mouth smile in her pic. At least 2 teeth missing, and wasn't sure if she had just been eating some sort of red candy or her gums were inflamed / red / bleeding. Very raspy voice. Soon as she gets in, I ask if she is a cop. She says no. I wait to see if she is going to do anything. . . Nope. So I ask her again. She says she is not a cop, that she is a convicted felon and has her I'd card to prove it, as she reaches for her very large purse. I tell her to stop reaching for her purse and we're done. She throws a huff about wasting her time, but finally gets out.
A rare find
After the disappointment in from the clubs and the Stroll I found Brook on CL, I haven't had a dream this good in a long while. Quick set up through txt and I was at her I. See. She looks just like her photos the only downside was a bit of baby damage but it's passeble. All BB, started with some roaming than BJ, mish, than I asked about back door and she said sure. After a few minutes I let out the first pop. Chatted for another 5 min and went back in mish than cowgirl, nice theatrics as well. Wanted to finish up cim but opted for doggie and let loose the second. We had agreed on. 8 for hh but ended up being more like a FH, not clock watcher at all and great attitude. I tip because it was so enjoyable. Total damage was about. 12 will definitely like dream of her again.
BTW I most apologize for the latenes of this report I tried to upload it last night with my others but wasn't able to. Her ad was only up for a few minutes before it was flagged but I manage to snap a screen cap.