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  1. #4808

    Cate

    Quote Originally Posted by Vern2020  [View Original Post]
    Cate, the cute spinner. No complaints with the looks of the girl or the half hour I got. My complaint was I thought I was getting an hour.
    Thats probably why she's no longer working for that agency. They don't put up with a lot of shit and don't hesitate to let them go if they become a liability with the customers.

  2. #4807

    Unacceptable

    Quote Originally Posted by Vern2020  [View Original Post]
    Cate, the cute spinner. No complaints with the looks of the girl or the half hour I got. My complaint was I thought I was getting an hour.
    There are no half hour rates with the agency, and there is no reason why any one of us should tolerate 325 for 30 minutes unless the price and allotted time is advertised as such. We know all too well that YMMV with any provider, but there is no reason why you should be shorted for your time specially at these rates.

    Email the booker about the experience. You may hopefully get some sort of credit, and if not, simply walk away and thank them for their business but make it clear you will no longer be a patron.

    I have been lucky to have amazing experiences with eec ladies (full GFE, msog, etc), except for one instance where the girl in the pictures looked way different than who I thought I was going to meet. Good experience but felt like I was jipped. Thankfully, I received a credit for my troubles. This kept me happy because it really showed me that the agency really cares for my business.

    If I had the same experience as you, I would definitely consider never using them again if I felt like the agency didn't care about me enough to make it right.

  3. #4806
    Quote Originally Posted by Beast42  [View Original Post]
    Who was the provider? That's unusual for this angency.
    Cate, the cute spinner. No complaints with the looks of the girl or the half hour I got. My complaint was I thought I was getting an hour.

  4. #4805
    Quote Originally Posted by Flipper12  [View Original Post]
    I've seen a few of their girls and the reason is that they're from out of town or they're students in college who do this during break. In addition, most are first timers and just decide they're done after trying it out for a couple of weeks.
    I did notice that the cute spinner Cate is long gone.

  5. #4804

    EEC has no "usual"

    Quote Originally Posted by Beast42  [View Original Post]
    Who was the provider? That's unusual for this angency.
    I'm not surprised by the poster that said he only got 25 minutes. I had the same experience with Cate (no longer on site) but I can be very persuasive so I managed to convince her. But if I had just taken it when she said that a second round "was not included for $300" I would have been out of there within half an hour with only one shot on goal too. It's really par for the course.

    One of the girls refused to give me a BJ (covered or uncovered), a different time there was no DFK.

    These girls are brand new, most of the time you're going to be seeing them with no reviews or at best a couple. So bottom line is you're going in there blind and getting what you get. If you don't like it. Too bad.

    You won't really get anything if you complain so I don't even bother. I'm probably batting 50/50 with this agency so I wouldn't say that the usual service is great. It really depends on who you get. You could get a great GFE experience with a young hot girl. Or you could leave feeling like you lit your $325 on fire.

  6. #4803

    Surprised

    Quote Originally Posted by Vern2020  [View Original Post]
    I ended up getting a 25 min session for my $325. When I asked if there was time for a second round was told, "no, there is not time. " Complained to the handler. Nothing came of it. 325 for less than a half hour is too expensive.
    Who was the provider? That's unusual for this angency.

  7. #4802
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    Agreed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vern2020  [View Original Post]
    I ended up getting a 25 min session for my $325. When I asked if there was time for a second round was told, "no, there is not time. " Complained to the handler. Nothing came of it. 325 for less than a half hour is too expensive.
    You should have had at least one hour.

  8. #4801

    Eec

    Quote Originally Posted by Flipper12  [View Original Post]
    I've seen a few of their girls and the reason is that they're from out of town or they're students in college who do this during break. In addition, most are first timers and just decide they're done after trying it out for a couple of weeks.

    I saw three of their girls when they were having the December special but I'm probably going to pass going forward.

    Biggest problem I have with EEC is that you don't know what you're getting because usually there are no reviews since the girls are new and don't stay too long. I don't really want to drop $325 not knowing what I'm getting. Yes they send unblurred pics by text if you're verified but a lot of times the girl has the phone in front of a face taking a selfie in the mirror and sometimes it's in really good lighting and photoshopped so what you're seeing is not always what you're getting.
    I ended up getting a 25 min session for my $325. When I asked if there was time for a second round was told, "no, there is not time. " Complained to the handler. Nothing came of it. 325 for less than a half hour is too expensive.

  9. #4800

    Out of towners

    Quote Originally Posted by CoolPatrick  [View Original Post]

    EEC is very solid. I just don't understand why their bullpen seems to have much higher turnover rate. Their website and information can be improved but at least they are willing to answer questions via telegram to clarify what I'm buying.
    I've seen a few of their girls and the reason is that they're from out of town or they're students in college who do this during break. In addition, most are first timers and just decide they're done after trying it out for a couple of weeks.

    I saw three of their girls when they were having the December special but I'm probably going to pass going forward.

    Biggest problem I have with EEC is that you don't know what you're getting because usually there are no reviews since the girls are new and don't stay too long. I don't really want to drop $325 not knowing what I'm getting. Yes they send unblurred pics by text if you're verified but a lot of times the girl has the phone in front of a face taking a selfie in the mirror and sometimes it's in really good lighting and photoshopped so what you're seeing is not always what you're getting.

  10. #4799

    Fake Agency Using Stolen picsl

    Quote Originally Posted by LaCoyote  [View Original Post]
    Yes, looks like the sin is the only reviewer but if you click on his account you will see lot of reviews given to other agencies and Indy girls that I have seen as well, (probably I will open an account there).

    Second, I had booked before with them, there was cutest girl she was new to business long ago.

    Last Saturday I booked again but the girl with big booty did not show up, but they let me know ahead time and apologize for that inconvenience and promised a super discount next time, we will c. They said girls make crazy excuses just in order not to show up. I got this one, it was like this when CEC or EEC started business, girl did not show up all o the big excuse she is already fully booked ok in some cases it was true.

    IF this agency were fake then why use an HTTPS / on their website and membership form, that means that their link are SSL or encrypted, comparing to other site and Indies.

    Probably their pics were form girls working other agencies you know and I do not need to explain that.

    Their pics have been locked so you have to become a member, but they not post naked ones on it just girls in lingerie, it is just to protect girls privacy a little and to avoid getting kick out of the web hosting, you know these day LEO is cracking down site, you know already EROS still on investigation, BP,. Anyway who knows. I texted with them a little so I know a little about them.

    Screening is a joke w / some those those agency, they do not screen at all, just gave certain info you are in, Try you will c.
    I know who "the sin" is in real life. I know he also stole pics from girls that haven't worked in the business since 2015. What I am wondering is if Lacoyote and The Sin are the same person. I am 99.99999% they are.

  11. #4798

    Https

    Quote Originally Posted by LaCoyote  [View Original Post]
    IF this agency were fake then why use an HTTPS / on their website and membership form, that means that their link are SSL or encrypted, comparing to other site and Indies.
    I haven't used this agency personally but using https doesn't mean it's not fake. You can enable https on most websites with a click of a button.

  12. #4797

    Perfect post

    Quote Originally Posted by Random4  [View Original Post]
    Haven't posted here before but been around for several years. But since I've been seeing some actual good discussion over here (vs on another board where it quickly devolves into accusations of people being paid off), I thought I'd share my experiences with a few agencies over the years.
    Thank you very much for a perfect intel post!

    Models Club Elite (previously known as Chicago Elite Companions).

    IMHO, MCE and Elite-Secret are the few very organized local agencies in town. 2kg, Michelle's, ECE, ChicagoCoverGrils are also in this organized category. From verification, scheduling, to information update as well as the service from the girl. The quality of bullpen may vary but you are getting what you are willing to pay for.

    Angelli's Angels.

    I'd assume your fav is Chloe, haha. She is indeed legendary, just like Anita and Elsa from Sandra's bullpen about 2 or 3 years back. Decently hot and pleasant looking with full menu and zero fuss about how you want to engage with her.

    My only complaint about AA and by the same reason, WetNWild is their scheduling and confusing information / description. MCE / CEC uses "PSE" to refer Greek. For other items like CIM / COF, they at least tells people to check out TER, and the reviews (despite whether the first one is from loyal client or promoter friend) are pretty accurate and consistent when you glance through all of them. When TER indicates the girl will swallow, she is likely to offer to everyone unless there is some real problem during individual sessions. Well at least this has been my experience and what I heard privately.

    However, AA and WNW use PSE to refer something else and it's not used consistently. With the research behind my intel, I still couldn't figure out what exactly PSE stands for when it comes to AA and WNW girls. My best guess is they use PSE to refer to CIM or even just BBBJ. Either is not really acceptable, especially given how girls from all other agencies will do BBBJ as GFE default for the higher mark-up. It is possible and acceptable (to me) if AA uses PSE to refer to the dynamics of the interaction. In this case, I at least can know that the girl is willing to be sloppier with their mouth and talk dirtier and be in control to ride me more than I need to direct and take charge. And I can decide such a style really worth the $100 up-charge.

    The worst outcome from the confusion is that clients are likely to find disappointment when they have to pay more for a standard item by others. This is true for AA. What else gives this away? Check out Chloe's profile on AA, what the heck is PSEWA? PSE with anal? Then what is your PSE service exactly that worth $100 up-charge? I don't mind paying more if that's something I want and think the price is fair. BUT I NEED TO KNOW WHAT YOU ARE SELLING! TER reviews on the PSE girls from AA or WNW often indicated that the client did not receive Greek lesson or CIM finish. Some even explicitly indicated lower score or disappointment about NON-PSE. Yes, I always consider YMMV, but the point here is about the consistency.
    You get even more business with steady steam this way. Or learn from ChicagoCoverGirls, just leave Greek and CIM / COF to the girl's decision and just advertise them as GFE (BBBJ included); or from EliteSecret and only indicates additional menu items clearly if the girls agree to listing it upfront.

    AA has a solid bullpen, and I do want to use their service, especially now Chloe is with them. Yet, I'm reluctant to try their nice girls because of the concern of not getting what they advertised. If folks from AA are reading this post, don't be offended, you really can fix things very easily. My critique is just about the confusion you caused, not about the ways you run your business. I'm sure there are enough clients that don't care much about the difference.

    EEC is very solid. I just don't understand why their bullpen seems to have much higher turnover rate. Their website and information can be improved but at least they are willing to answer questions via telegram to clarify what I'm buying.

  13. #4796
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    Posts: 761

    ECE Kinga

    http://www.ecechicago.com/model-deta...-escorts-kinga

    Kinga is back at the ECE agency. I never got a chance to meet her. She seemed interesting, especially after countless good reports.

  14. #4795

    CGE. Is not a fake agency, I'm not defending'them but have some points to consider

    Yes, looks like the sin is the only reviewer but if you click on his account you will see lot of reviews given to other agencies and Indy girls that I have seen as well, (probably I will open an account there).

    Second, I had booked before with them, there was cutest girl she was new to business long ago.

    Last Saturday I booked again but the girl with big booty did not show up, but they let me know ahead time and apologize for that inconvenience and promised a super discount next time, we will c. They said girls make crazy excuses just in order not to show up. I got this one, it was like this when CEC or EEC started business, girl did not show up all o the big excuse she is already fully booked ok in some cases it was true.

    IF this agency were fake then why use an HTTPS / on their website and membership form, that means that their link are SSL or encrypted, comparing to other site and Indies.

    Probably their pics were form girls working other agencies you know and I do not need to explain that.

    Their pics have been locked so you have to become a member, but they not post naked ones on it just girls in lingerie, it is just to protect girls privacy a little and to avoid getting kick out of the web hosting, you know these day LEO is cracking down site, you know already EROS still on investigation, BP,. Anyway who knows. I texted with them a little so I know a little about them.

    Screening is a joke w / some those those agency, they do not screen at all, just gave certain info you are in, Try you will c.

  15. #4794

    Agency Thoughts

    Haven't posted here before but been around for several years. But since I've been seeing some actual good discussion over here (vs on another board where it quickly devolves into accusations of people being paid off), I thought I'd share my experiences with a few agencies over the years.

    Models Club Elite (previously known as Chicago Elite Companions).

    Screening is a bit rigirous, but once you're in they're incredibly easy to work with. Schedules with daily availability are emailed out weekly, which makes booking SUPER easy (no back and forth to figure out who is available when on what day, location, etc.). Typically only takes one or two messages to book, professional and quick to respond. They've got a group of very talented and hot college age girls (many of them actually in college). Historically a pretty stable lineup that sticks around, although lately a number were cut / left at the end of last year and they've brought on a lot of new (less experienced) talent, so time will tell if they stick around to get back to some stability. But the quality there is absolutely top notch. Donations are on the higher side, but quality costs (and if it's an issue they do frequently offer discounts if you prebook early in the week). Very serious about security and even with what / how they communicate. With the recent change they're even being a bit cagey on which models offer which type of experience, but if you reach out in the right way they'll let you know. Pics on their site are real and recent. Once you've been vetted, they'll send you unblurred face pics at your request. Only ever had them cancel on me once and they had a replacement that I was happy to see at the same time, although they do commonly run a few minutes behind schedule. Has been my go-to for a while now, with a mix of repeating with some of my favorites and trying out the variety they have. Ease of scheduling and consistent high quality has definitely increased my hobbying frequency significantly.

    Angelli's Angels.

    Only recently started using them because one of my favorites from CEC / MCE moved over there. Screening wasn't too bad, but scheduling is less than ideal. I don't know how organized they actually are, but it seems like they don't always know who is going to be working even a couple of days out or in what parts of town (kind of a pain for someone who plans their week out). And on a couple of occasions I've had to reach out to followup to get info that they said they'd send, or find out that they needed to reschedule. But it seems like they might be starting to make some changes to improve in that regard right now. Once scheduling was confirmed on the day of. No complaints at all. Donations in the same ballpark as MCE / CEC, but they have an odd split structure based on the type of session that I haven't seen others do. On the plus side they are pretty open with promos. Quality seems similar-ish to MCE / CEC, although I haven't personally seen enough to say for sure. Will keep seeing one of my favs over here and will likely sample with some of the others there.

    Elite-Secret.

    Run by a very solid and professional women named Sandra. Screening is a breeze if you belong to a verification service. Has been around for quite a while (even before they had a name), and I've used them off and on for years. Need to do the annoying back and forth to see who's available where and when, but she's quick to respond. Donations are very reasonable, especially for the experience they offer, and they offer promos for repeat clients. They do tend to be older (30's) and not quite the model material that MCE / AA has, but still good and the lineup stays pretty stable. Pics have been real (one case of them being more than a few years old). I do feel that quality has gone down somewhat over the years though (those of you around for a while may remember the likes of Elizabetta, Anetta, and Elsa). Wouldn't hesitate to use again if they changed up their talent some more.

    Korean Palace.

    Haven't used for a few years (probably couldn't get back in even if I wanted to), so some of this might be out of date. They were tight with screening back then, and I have to imagine it's gotten tougher since then. Booking was generally only available day of and they switch the talent around pretty quickly. Pics on the site were representative of the girl (or the actual girl under ideal photoshoot conditions). Donations are lower than every other place I brought up, but you're getting a very different experience. It was fun and different for a while, but I eventually got tired of the same exact act every time I went (common shared shower process if you've visited these type of places before). If asians are really your thing this might be for you, but I decided to spend my time elsewhere.

    I used to see some independents, but have gravitated more towards agencies for convenience (plus finding some agencies with super high quality). One of them, Brooke Logan, is still in town occasionally and was quite fun as of a couple of years ago (although it looks like her donation has gone up considerably since then).

    I've been a little curious to try out Exclusive Escort Companions given their reputation here. A few things stopping me so far though: don't know if I want to get screened by yet another agency (security), I've got plenty to choose from between MCE and AA and their donation level isn't a problem for me, the turnover appears to be higher whereas I generally prefer to repeat for a while (recognize this may be a pro for some), and the things the booker has said (relayed on here by others) while sometimes funny have been a little offputting (I get that this can get competitive, but damn). May give in some day and give them a shot.

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