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    Hargow20
    I would have chatted briefly through the window just long enough to ask her to get in. But I would not have let her grab me. I have refused to let SW's do the test when I am parked over the years. My guess is that UC LE was patrolling and just happened to spot you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Marlowe  [View Original Post]
    What about her asking me to pull the car forward, and talking through the door rather than just getting into the car? I think I should have said thanks but no thanks when she asked me to do that. Was she working with Leo, or a decoy, or just an inexperienced, bit very hot girl who didn't know enough to get into the car when the door was unlocked?

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    Marlowe

    What about

    Quote Originally Posted by Socalasian  [View Original Post]
    Glad to hear that you are ok and got off with a warning. Could have been a long night.

    You're a seasoned pro so I'm sure your tactics and spidey sense were working and I can tell you though something was not quite right. I also think that it probably was just bad timing with the LE- they may have just turned a corner and she was being too obvious for them not to come right over.

    Again, glad it went the "warning" route.

    Happy Hunting!
    What about her asking me to pull the car forward, and talking through the door rather than just getting into the car? I think I should have said thanks but no thanks when she asked me to do that. Was she working with Leo, or a decoy, or just an inexperienced, bit very hot girl who didn't know enough to get into the car when the door was unlocked?

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    Socalasian

    Glad to hear you're ok

    Glad to hear that you are ok and got off with a warning. Could have been a long night.

    You're a seasoned pro so I'm sure your tactics and spidey sense were working and I can tell you though something was not quite right. I also think that it probably was just bad timing with the LE- they may have just turned a corner and she was being too obvious for them not to come right over.

    Again, glad it went the "warning" route.

    Happy Hunting!

    Quote Originally Posted by Marlowe  [View Original Post]
    I was trying to do that! Part of the reason that I didn't get arrested is because I didn't say anything, in case SHE was recording it. I just didn't see the UCLE lurking in the area, and I DID look for him, circled 3x before even stopping near her. I still think I should have left after she finished the call and asked me to pull the car forward before parking.

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    Marlowe

    I was trying to do that!

    Quote Originally Posted by Hargow20  [View Original Post]
    I have seen these cop shows and decoys just hate Johns. Believe me the last they want to do is grab some guys wiener. I also have had decoys openly offer me $40 for a BJ through the window. In end you want minimize your risks.
    I was trying to do that! Part of the reason that I didn't get arrested is because I didn't say anything, in case SHE was recording it. I just didn't see the UCLE lurking in the area, and I DID look for him, circled 3x before even stopping near her. I still think I should have left after she finished the call and asked me to pull the car forward before parking.

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    Hargow20
    Male UC LE lets SW's grab them all time. But there is big difference between have a girl and some a girl grabbing some guy. Let's face it grosses most civilian women out. After all why do think there is all these sexual harassment suits.

    Quote Originally Posted by J2593  [View Original Post]
    I'm not 100% sure, but I think they can do whatever you allow in order to get the bust. I know if you ask to touch them they can allow it, but they can't touch you without your consent due to sexual harrassment suit possibilities. In street / hotel busts you're absolutely right though, all they want is solicitation.

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    Hargow20
    I have seen these cop shows and decoys just hate Johns. Believe me the last they want to do is grab some guys wiener. I also have had decoys openly offer me $40 for a BJ through the window. In end you want minimize your risks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Marlowe  [View Original Post]
    I am not so sure of that. #1-she waved at me to get my attention (although obviously she already had it). Most SW don't do that, even the ones that know you, whereas many LE do. #2-she offered me a BJ for $60 when she was talking through the open car door, rather than just getting in the car and closing to door, as most SW would, usually they want to get into the car as quickly as possible because they are exposed standing there on the street.

    I would hope that she was real, maybe an internet girl taking a chance on street work because action was slow, but overall, I think she was a decoy.

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    Marlowe

    Not so sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mazda05  [View Original Post]
    I don't think so.

    All they are tying to get you on is solicting.

    I think Marlowe had a real provider there.
    I am not so sure of that. #1-she waved at me to get my attention (although obviously she already had it).most SW don't do that, even the ones that know you, whereas many LE do. #2-she offered me a BJ for $60 when she was talking through the open car door, rather than just getting in the car and closing to door, as most SW would, usually they want to get into the car as quickly as possible because they are exposed standing there on the street.

    I would hope that she was real, maybe an internet girl taking a chance on street work because action was slow, but overall, I think she was a decoy.

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    CaliGuyLbc

    Decoy

    Quote Originally Posted by Mazda05  [View Original Post]
    I don't think so.

    All they are tying to get you on is solicting.

    I think Marlowe had a real provider there.
    A decoy won't make any contact with you at all if I am not mistaken, let alone touch your cock. Also, they will most likely won't walk away from there spot, so ask them to walk away and meet at a different location. I could be wrong. I watched cops shows and the decoy never get away from their location at all. Good luck with SW. They are too risky.

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    J2593

    I think so.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mazda05  [View Original Post]
    I don't think so.

    All they are tying to get you on is solicting.

    I think Marlowe had a real provider there.
    I'm not 100% sure, but I think they can do whatever you allow in order to get the bust. I know if you ask to touch them they can allow it, but they can't touch you without your consent due to sexual harrassment suit possibilities. In street / hotel busts you're absolutely right though, all they want is solicitation.

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    Mazda05

    Can A decoy rub your cock?

    I don't think so.

    All they are tying to get you on is solicting.

    I think Marlowe had a real provider there.

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    Hargow20
    I think it's unlikely that she was working with LE. Personally I have yet to see a confirmed report of this. One problem is that SW would not make a good witness in a trial. The other issue would be getting the SW to even show up. If LE did go to all the trouble of working with a SW then chances are he would have arrested you. As for the cop check it's still not a good idea when parked. What may have seemed harmless in the past poses a risk these days.

    Quote Originally Posted by Marlowe  [View Original Post]
    I didn't ask for the cop check, she did, and asked if she could come to the Driver's side window, groped me, then she got the phone call, which is, in hindsight, when I should have left. I opened the door, I intended for her to get in, but she insisted on talking through the open door, for about 20 seconds, then the UCLE swooped on us. I had driven around the block twice before approaching her and hadn't seen any sign of LE. She was however, way above average for the track she was on. I am reasonably sure that she was either LE or working with them.

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    Marlowe
    Quote Originally Posted by Livinitup  [View Original Post]
    Regarding the the girl being LE or not. I have to ask what happened to her while you where being questioned? Was she questioned too or let go?

    Sounds like the UC LE was solo driving and unmarked. And focused-in on you.

    Depending on what happened to the girl; this does not sound like a typical decoy-sting operation. This looks more like they are out to get us Johns rather than rounding up the SW's. If this is the case this is a new kind of crack-down.
    While my "drama" with LE went on, she was standing on the sidewalk. When he finished lecturing me, but before returning my keys to me, he told her that she needed to find a new municipality to practice her trade in (verbatim quote). She told him she would go home right now.

    After that he gave me my keys and I left, kinda quickly actually. I really wasn't paying attention to what happened to her, nor did I hang around to see if she was still walking, I am just not that bold. For all I now, they went a got a room and he had a good time, I certainly wouldn't blame him for getting a freebie, she was that hot!

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    Marlowe

    Clarifying.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hargow20  [View Original Post]
    My guess is that the UC LE was observing her and waiting to pull over someone that stopped for her. A few years back I pulled over and was talking to a SW briefly and the cops pulled me over. This is one reason why simply tell the SW to get in. My guess is that she was not LE since the last thing a girl decoy wants is grab some guys dick. Even the mere act of receiving a cop check from a SW is enough for a cop to arrest you for a "intent to solicit prostitution" if he observed you. If this was a sting operation in progress than you would have been arrested if you asked the SW for a cop check. Another thing to remember is that LE has been using same locations where the SW's to work conduct stings. So any carelessness could get you arrested. In a sting operation the cops will look for any reason to bust you. The "intent to solicit" is basically a catch all for the cops to bust you. LE has really cracked down hard on prostitution in recent years. So you really need to try and minimize the risks.
    I didn't ask for the cop check, she did, and asked if she could come to the Driver's side window, groped me, then she got the phone call, which is, in hindsight, when I should have left. I opened the door, I intended for her to get in, but she insisted on talking through the open door, for about 20 seconds, then the UCLE swooped on us. I had driven around the block twice before approaching her and hadn't seen any sign of LE. She was however, way above average for the track she was on. I am reasonably sure that she was either LE or working with them.

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    Hargow20
    My guess is that the UC LE was observing her and waiting to pull over someone that stopped for her. A few years back I pulled over and was talking to a SW briefly and the cops pulled me over. This is one reason why simply tell the SW to get in. My guess is that she was not LE since the last thing a girl decoy wants is grab some guys dick. Even the mere act of receiving a cop check from a SW is enough for a cop to arrest you for a "intent to solicit prostitution" if he observed you. If this was a sting operation in progress than you would have been arrested if you asked the SW for a cop check. Another thing to remember is that LE has been using same locations where the SW's to work conduct stings. So any carelessness could get you arrested. In a sting operation the cops will look for any reason to bust you. The "intent to solicit" is basically a catch all for the cops to bust you. LE has really cracked down hard on prostitution in recent years. So you really need to try and minimize the risks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Marlowe  [View Original Post]
    She did come to the driver's side, she reached inside my shorts and groped my penis. I had opened the door lock for her, but she opened the door and was talking rather than getting into the car. That, the phone call she received, and her asking me to pull forward before she began talking make me think she was LE too. Too bad, cause she was smoking hot.

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    Marlowe

    She did.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mw Jrp  [View Original Post]
    Sounds like the Midwest Gestapo we have in many of the states I visit. I realize with your good weather it's common to keep the windows down in SoCal and start some "discussions" and I read some guys do that, but in MW I'd say that's a no-no. I see one possible error you made and that's to NOT get the girl in the car before prelims begin. Frankly, I just visited SoCal and if a hottie tried to "contact" me thru the window I would have left fast. Even in Palm Springs where it was 98F. Also, if the gal won't come to the driver's side that's another red flag for me. Just my 2 cents. Be safe and good hunting. BTW, I had my car towed once for picking a SW running down the street. She had went out the back of a drug house with UC's marked bills and was on the run. I was a good horny samaritan who scooped her. We didn't get far. UC and LE were all over me in less than a mile. I paid $7.50 to get my car back + towing. No other tickets. I have been threatened with towing/impound a few other times, but never had it done and after my first incident I learned to clam up when inerrogated and waterboarded by LE. MW
    She did come to the driver's side, she reached inside my shorts and groped my penis. I had opened the door lock for her, but she opened the door and was talking rather than getting into the car. That, the phone call she received, and her asking me to pull forward before she began talking make me think she was LE too. Too bad, cause she was smoking hot.

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