Solving Your Problem
Solving your problem is easy. If one knows how to say "no" and walk.
What I have learned is that it is always better to contribute AFTER everything is done and ALL has been completed as agreed.
If more guys would only start withholding BEFORE the delivery then there would be more walking off and away AND there would be better effort made by the provider to make things the best they can make them.
In fact, the best providers NEVER ask up front and certainly don't count and inspect in detail in front of one BEFORE the session because that ruins the mood. And if things don't go well, the best providers will take that into account.
Don't give these girls anything until they have given you what you want.
Sure you can negotiate and might do that if you are offering to return regularly BUT it is generally best to give them what they want or walk.
More guys need to learn to walk off when things don't feel right or are outrageous.
This economy is getting worse NOT better. We have entered a period of extreme deflation. So, expect costs of everything to drop. Sure the Superbowl will inflate prices some but it hard times cash is king.
Tiffany: Near Miss?
While I can not say she is a rip off, I can not let this go without posting my experience tonight in order to alert others. Late this evening I called Tiffany and she picked up. She said she was available and wanted 60 for a short visit. I told her I was about 20 minutes away and she offered to text me her address. But I thought I might have heard a man's voice or the voices of other people in the background. I headed over her way and when I arrived at her hotel, I was surprised by how empty the parking lot was.
Late last night and early this morning, I saw her ads locally on BP and was attracted. I checked on her and found no reviews but several adds in other cities that seemed on the up and up.
It was way too early in the morning to call, so I sent her a text. She did not respond, so I emailed her but she never answered me. But she posted another ad at 8:00 AM offering specials including a qv. I see she took two adds down.
When I arrived I drove slowly through the parking area and looked around the relatively unoccupied hotel. No one was in the lobby or the office. I did not see anybody at all and very few vehicles. I stopped at the end of the lot and parked; there was only one car on the side I was on; it was a couple spaces over from me.
I got ready to text to get her room number but something caught my eye at a distance on the other side of that car. A dark man was standing outside near the fence looking up at the second floor observing the building! I must have driven right past him and did not see him in the dark.
My spidey senses took over. No sense risking anything with a younger Black male watching. I fired up my car and drove out. At the end of the lot as I was stopped before turning onto the street, I texted Tiffany that I had arrived but there was a man watching in her parking lot. She called me and she asked rhetorically, "So, you're not coming?" and when I answered I was there but that guy was in the parking lot and I wasn't getting out of my car, she hung up.
So, I don't know how close I came to possibly being strong armed by her Black pimp. I don't know for a fact that he was her pimp but that seemed more likely than a LE sting. If anybody else has an experience with Tiffany, please let us know.
Hazel in Tempe. Marginal performance with limited menu
I had seen many good reviews on Hazel in Tempe (24 years old), but none in the past six months.
I texted Hazel and she would not quote me a rate, she said all discussions would have to be in person.
In my experiences, some of the worst providers have been the ones who won't quote you a rate over the phone.
I showed up expecting Hazel's rate to be $200-$250 per hour.
After I got naked, I asked Hazel how much the 1 hour rate was and she said $300.
I told her I was expecting it to be lower, and she said she could do $250.
I gave her the $250.
That is when things started going downhill.
I went to kiss her (expecting DFK) and she does not kiss at all.
We got out a condom and she did a very energetic CBJ.
She allowed DATY. I got her in K9 and she fucked with average energy and I came.
We chatted briefly, then I went for a second shot. Another energetic CBJ, then 69, finishing in K9.
Once I came the second time (about 30 minutes after I arrived), Hazel turned on the the TV and started watching that and encouraged me to visit her again soon.
She had a few more words for me after that, but it was clear that my time in her room was up.
Hazel is definitely not GFE.
For me, paying $250 for 1 hour is more expensive than usual, but paying $250 for 30 minutes is essentially robbery.
I do not recommend Hazel at any price. Her effort level is marginal and her menu is more limited than previous reviews suggest.
I have been trying to get a hold of this one for a couple of weeks now. Has anyone had any luck? Pix seem legit.
To the Newbies!
It seems like a lot of the newbies on this site is wanting intel whether BP providers, MP's, SW's or whatever. That is fine, but share some of you experiences first before asking for intel. I don't mind sharing intel to someone asking for it, but earn you credibility with the other members that have been on this site with numerous posts!
This girl is not even close to the photos that she uses. I would say she is at least 15 years older and about 50 pounds heavier.
She gets great marks for service on the other review site.
Coming to Phoenix later this month. Can anyone confirm this would be a good choice? Kinda need a bargain. Safe? Legit? As good as it seems?
Just looking for this specialty, nothing more.
Do you know Camille?
Has anyone seen Camille?
I have been talking to her and I am ready to set up a meeting.
Saw this one at a grocery store near Bell rd Thanksgiving day.
Definitely legit. Was with a guy who must've been a client.
You just know it when you see it LOL.
Client paid for everything while she buttered him up with an ever so sweet "Thanks baby".
Bit of a belly, but other than that, nice body. Tall & juicy if you like a woman with a little bit of meat on her bones.
Nice lips. I've actually contemplated seeing her, but my funds are funny right now.
Coming to Phoenix. Anybody seen Annabella?
Coming this weekend but cannot find any intel on Annabella. I am interested in seeing her with my wife. Any intel?
BP deleting escort adds
Has anyone heard of problems with escorts adds being deleted by BP?
It seems as if BP will delete an add if there receive complaints about it, and not verify if there is anything in the add that violates BP policies?
A woman I recently spent some time with mentioned that her adds have been deleted, sometimes within an hour of it being posted. I don't remember anything remotely close to anything inconsistent with adds I've seen over almost three years of looking at BP adds for Phoenix and Tucson.
The result has been, of course paying for the adds, a decrease in phone calls since her adds have been deleated foe two weeks now.
Off hand, it seems like someone is attacking her ability to advertise on BP. If other women are experiencing the same thing then it isn't aimed specifically at her. But, if the attack is against her, and BP does not bother to verify if an add should be removed, this is a MAJOR problem for anyone relying upon BP advertising, and a problem for anyone using BP adds as a source for potential people to contact since this person is a very safe person to contact, and very safe to be with.
So guys, just curious if anyone knows any good providers in the Buckeye area. I find myself relocating to the area within the next 6 months and wanted to do some recon but why'all's forum is packed with posts. Anyone care to hook a guy up on details. Would be greatly appreciated. PM me if possible. Thanks.
Not worth the trip
So early morning after a stressful week. Decided to troll BP for a quick fix since my reliable provider is no longer in the city. Trying to fill the void. Was in the east valley and decide on a few girls. Mainly ebony since that's my favorite flavor. Saw so many enticing ads but no answers on any of them. So decided on a Latina girl. Called for rates and agreed. Texted me the location and said I was on my way. Her name is Nikki and was a latina.
So got to the intersection and called her about where she was. Problem 1, she said she didn't think I was on my way. Even after I texted that I needed the address. And also stated I was on my way. But she said she'd meet me at my ride. So she got in and it is her from the pics. At least the 1st and 3rd. Was happy at least the pics match the person. So introductions over with and was worried that it would be a car date. Problem 2, we needed to buy covers. Not really happy about it but since I made the trip, mind as well see it through. So got the covers and back to the apartments. Got out and followed her to her place. Cheap, run down complex and very dark. No real lighting anywhere. Got to the door and she said don't mind the mess and the people inside. Said she had people come in for the holidays. Big Problem #1, Passed out on the living room floor was an AA male, well built. She assured me that everything was okay. I should've left but the little head was winning the battle. Got into her room, air mattress on the floor and her "gf" that was willing to do a double. Was okay looking but passed. So out went the gf and pulled down her pants. Than on went the cover and a 10 second lame CBJ. Than only doggy. This girl was rushing for a quick finish. I was done and wanted to book it out of there. So ask for just a CBJ and only got a HJ with licking of the head. Just said I was done, flushed down the cover and she lead me out. After I got out the door, I ran down the stairs, ran to the parking lot and high tailed it out. I no way do I recommend her. Avoid at all cost. Even at the donation, it is not worth it. I might have been lucky to just lose that. . 60 and wasted time.
Any info on Lily Jane? She has a few good reviews, but it would helpful if I could hear from a senior member that she's legit.