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  1. #3620
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    OldGuySwinger

    The Test

    If you ever want to know if any of these girls, or anybody in life whom you have a business relationship with, is really a friend to you; Take away the money.

    If the money stops and they still do whatever you consider friend-type things. They are a friend.

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    DesertDenizen1

    Wow

    Quote Originally Posted by Oryx81  [View Original Post]
    I know this may come as a surprise, but your advice might be appropriate for some but it is nonsense for me. Yes, I am lonely and I am also 82 years old. Playing with my recently new friends, ages 30 to 50 is great. Having sex with my wife was wonderful for a very long time too. Now that she is gone I'm not interested in sex with friends my age. Perhaps when you age a bit more you might understand that not all of us will die alone, destitute, and humiliated. If that is what you think would happen to you, then it might be that you are dealing with the wrong providers.

    FWIW, I'm having sex with women who wouldn't otherwise have sex with me without me paying them but several of them are now my fri ends. I hope I die in the saddle and with a smile on my face and a few assets for my descendents. .
    Still having sex at 82- that is great! I am 60 and having sex with women in their 20's is why I hobby. As for friends I met via the hobby, only one. She was my regular, moved to the east coast 8 years ago and we still stay in touch. Many years since she has opened my wallet, we just really hit it off. I used to help her study when she was at Pima, we did regular stuff together as well our play time.

  3. #3618
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    Oryx81

    You have no idea of how old I am

    I know this may come as a surprise, but your advice might be appropriate for some but it is nonsense for me. Yes, I am lonely and I am also 82 years old. Playing with my recently new friends, ages 30 to 50 is great. Having sex with my wife was wonderful for a very long time too. Now that she is gone I'm not interested in sex with friends my age. Perhaps when you age a bit more you might understand that not all of us will die alone, destitute, and humiliated. If that is what you think would happen to you, then it might be that you are dealing with the wrong providers.

    FWIW, I'm having sex with women who wouldn't otherwise have sex with me without me paying them but several of them are now my fri ends. I hope I die in the saddle and with a smile on my face and a few assets for my descendents. .

    Quote Originally Posted by Uncivil  [View Original Post]
    Wow. I am just absolutely dumbfounded. I'm not saying that paying for sex isn't pathetic. In fact, I'll admit that it is. But what is about a million times more pathetic than that is paying for a friend. While I have done one, I can honestly say I have never done the other. Perhaps I've been more blessed than some of you, I don't know.

    As I stated before, I pay for sex because I want to have sex with women who wouldn't otherwise have sex with me were there not money involved. And, I'm fine with that. It is what it is, and there are no delusions on either side. As for friends, I have some great friends who would take a bullet for me, and me for them. I have no need or want to pay for a friend. After reading some of these posts, I feel truly fortunate for the friends I have, and I feel awful for those of you who haven't been as fortunate. Sometimes I forget that this hobby doesn't just attract the horny and perverted like myself, but it also attracts the lonely.

    To those who are in this hobby because you're lonely: I implore you, get out now, especially if you're at a stage in your life where it is too late to rebuild. This is how you become those guys we read about in the newspapers who end up dying not only alone, but dead broke because someone who professed to be a friend drained the wallet and the bank account a little bit at a time until there was nothing left. I don't want that to be me, and I don't want that to be any of you, either.

    I may not be as old as some of you, but I'm at the stage in life where I can no longer be referred to as a young man anymore, either. I can tell you with certainty. Dying alone may not sound appealing, but it sure as hell beats dying alone, destitute, and humiliated.
    Last edited by Oryx81; 08-26-14 at 14:28. Reason: typo

  4. #3617
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    Uncivil
    Quote Originally Posted by DesertNative  [View Original Post]
    Dublinwhet. Lots of review of 1 touchAnna here, but dude, thank you, I haven't laughed out loud so hard in a while. That had to be a first for her too, shame about her table, but your description was priceless. There is a humors side to all of this. Fucking hilarious first post.
    Since I heard about Anna's full Bush, she is on my to-do list. But, her reviews seem kind of shaky. One day when I'm in a gambling mood I'll take a shot at it.

    As to Kristine, I prefer the company of a more mature woman. Despite her also having mixed reviews, I have said to myself that I will give Kristine a call when she posts some new photos for her ad. I am not exaggerating whatsoever when I say I have been waiting for more than three years now for that to happen.

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    Uncivil
    Wow. I am just absolutely dumbfounded. I'm not saying that paying for sex isn't pathetic. In fact, I'll admit that it is. But what is about a million times more pathetic than that is paying for a friend. While I have done one, I can honestly say I have never done the other. Perhaps I've been more blessed than some of you, I don't know.

    As I stated before, I pay for sex because I want to have sex with women who wouldn't otherwise have sex with me were there not money involved. And, I'm fine with that. It is what it is, and there are no delusions on either side. As for friends, I have some great friends who would take a bullet for me, and me for them. I have no need or want to pay for a friend. After reading some of these posts, I feel truly fortunate for the friends I have, and I feel awful for those of you who haven't been as fortunate. Sometimes I forget that this hobby doesn't just attract the horny and perverted like myself, but it also attracts the lonely.

    To those who are in this hobby because you're lonely: I implore you, get out now, especially if you're at a stage in your life where it is too late to rebuild. This is how you become those guys we read about in the newspapers who end up dying not only alone, but dead broke because someone who professed to be a friend drained the wallet and the bank account a little bit at a time until there was nothing left. I don't want that to be me, and I don't want that to be any of you, either.

    I may not be as old as some of you, but I'm at the stage in life where I can no longer be referred to as a young man anymore, either. I can tell you with certainty. Dying alone may not sound appealing, but it sure as hell beats dying alone, destitute, and humiliated.

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    Oryx81

    Re: Mr Good time

    Mr. Good Time said, "Still, Bros, leading your life paying for sex is at best a futile, temporary move. ".

    At my age, everything is a temporary move. LOLWCW*.

    Have fun, Guys.

    *LOL you know but add "With Coughing Wheeze" at the end.

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    MrGoodTime

    Peace Bros

    Quote Originally Posted by OldButNotDead  [View Original Post]
    Uncivil - 'magical positive energy' seems to be a phenomenon that I know to be real, but that you yourself have never been open to.

    No desperation here. Gratitude, above all.

    If you look back on previous posts of mine, you'll see who I'm mostly talking about. We have many interests in common, and email back and forth between encounters.

    "Nothing but an open wallet to her" - that she's gone grocery shopping for me when I've been too sick to get out the door myself, and always offers to lug along her massage table instead of me going to her, gives the lie to that.

    You have a very limited view of the world. You're seeing everything thru the lens of your own narrow perspective.

    Hopefully you have enough time left in your life to open up at least somewhat, this time around.
    I haven't had to time to write a long, thoughtful, response, but you guys seems to have done that for me.

    I likely may know of the same provider of whom you speak. I don't want to get her involved here. If anyone deserves to get out of prostitution it is her. I would do almost anything I could to get her into a normal life, with a good, loving, honest man, because she wants that but so far can't seem shake off the sex worker lifestyle. There is hope, and I will keep trying, for her sake, as she is a kind, decent, person at heart. She breaks my heart, when I think of what she could and should be, be doing and have, and she doesn't yet know how to get that (but she can learn, as she is quite bright, with untapped potential). She is not the only one I've met that deserves to get out, hell, they all do. But some are too far gone, and will spend there entire lives in the biz. That's why you still see 50 and even 60 somethings advertising. I find this sad.

    Still, Bros, leading your life paying for sex is at best a futile, temporary move. It felt good at first to me and seemingly solved a cruel joke of a marriage. Then I wondered, after dropping that ex, if I could stop, and then I realized I couldn't stop. But one can stop, it's all about choices. The pull is always there. I just had to be honest with myself. I wish I hadn't started this, and had devoted my full energy to my current SO, as I am now. And living an honest lifestyle is like a ton of weight is off my back.

    It's not a moral judgement, but it is my personal ethics not to engage any longer. Getting in and getting out of this tainted sex business is part of the process. Stay in if you must, but it is abuse. Look who controls the money for a temporary high. You have to go back over and over because it can never fulfill like a true relationship. Look who needs the money so much they will have sex with you. Yes, be grateful. You have a nice business relationship, and possibly more, it can happen. I'm capable of being friends with someone I met through backpage. But it is rare, and I wish I had met that same person another way.

    Good luck. I will still blog for a while, since I have just a little more to comment on. But then, I need to get back to my real life. Everybody was dreaming there for a while. I found it was really a nightmare after a long while.

  8. #3613
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    Oryx81

    I think OBNDY and I are in the Minority on this site.

    While I have never met him personally, I know, intimately, a few of the same "providers" I agree that becoming friends with them fulfills more than just the urge for a "here's your money, slam, bam, out the door and who's next?

    I also know the reasons why providers and clients choose this hobby are varied. Personally, I don't care. I know what makes me happy and that is enough for me. So, excuse me. I have to read and respond to a long, personal email from my ATF.

    Quote Originally Posted by OldButNotDead  [View Original Post]
    Uncivil - 'magical positive energy' seems to be a phenomenon that I know to be real, but that you yourself have never been open to.

    No desperation here. Gratitude, above all.

    If you look back on previous posts of mine, you'll see who I'm mostly talking about. We have many interests in common, and email back and forth between encounters.

    "Nothing but an open wallet to her" - that she's gone grocery shopping for me when I've been too sick to get out the door myself, and always offers to lug along her massage table instead of me going to her, gives the lie to that.

    You have a very limited view of the world. You're seeing everything thru the lens of your own narrow perspective.

    Hopefully you have enough time left in your life to open up at least somewhat, this time around.

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    OldButNotDead

    How Can I Keep This Non-Combative?

    Uncivil - 'magical positive energy' seems to be a phenomenon that I know to be real, but that you yourself have never been open to.

    No desperation here. Gratitude, above all.

    If you look back on previous posts of mine, you'll see who I'm mostly talking about. We have many interests in common, and email back and forth between encounters.

    "Nothing but an open wallet to her" - that she's gone grocery shopping for me when I've been too sick to get out the door myself, and always offers to lug along her massage table instead of me going to her, gives the lie to that.

    You have a very limited view of the world. You're seeing everything thru the lens of your own narrow perspective.

    Hopefully you have enough time left in your life to open up at least somewhat, this time around.

  10. #3611
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    AZWildcat

    Sofia

    No way this one can be real right? But she did post a video. I'm not available today otherwise I might have tried to partake.

    http://tucson.backpage.com/FemaleEsc...ly-19/27681592

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    DesertNative

    One touch Anna

    Dublinwhet. Lots of review of 1 touchAnna here, but dude, thank you, I haven't laughed out loud so hard in a while. That had to be a first for her too, shame about her table, but your description was priceless. There is a humors side to all of this. Fucking hilarious first post.

    Quote Originally Posted by DublinWhet  [View Original Post]
    Long time lurker, first time poster.

    http://tucson.backpage.com/BodyRubs/...93-32/12853019

    Arrived on time, beautiful woman, pics do not do her justice, beautiful fake breasts and very much in shape. Marignal area, Nice set up in the apt, I go into the massage room, undress, stumble and catch myself on her massage table. It BREAKS! She starts crying. I dressed, left the money and left. Any one have anything to report on her?

    http://tucson.backpage.com/FemaleEsc...ad-55/15242085

    Was contacted by Kristine. Thought, what the heck and the price was right. She says give me 30 minutes, instructs me to go to a circle K and get her a drink and call her from there. I call, no answer. I text, no answer, I call a few more times, no answer.

    Has anyone had similar experiences with this one?

    Been a hobbyist for over 10 yrs and never had two strikes in one day.

  12. #3609
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    Uncivil
    I never said I was better than them. I never really thought about whether I was or not until I read your post. But, now that you mention it, I feel compelled to reply.

    To the ones that are straight up honest, no, I don't think I am better than them. They are providing a service to their employer (whomever it may be for that hour) in the same way that I do with my employer. We're both just trying to make a living.

    To the ones who lie about their ages, their photos, or tell you all the things they won't do after they've accepted your money or otherwise lied to you. Then, yeah, absolutely I think I'm better than them. I don't treat others that way, so I react harshly when people do that kind of shit to me. Nothing in the world justifies that, even if I'm not sending off this magical positive energy that you describe.

    The reality of this business is that, no matter what these girls say or do during your time together, you are nothing but an open wallet to her. That's it. And, I for one am fine with that. It is what it is. When you go to the movies, do you really believe that Arnold Schwarzenegger is really half-metal, or that Alladin can really get around on flying carpets? The moment you, or I, or any of us forget what it is we are to them, it is then time to immediately get the fuck out of this hobby.

    No disrespect OBND, but I have to agree with what Desert Rat said about you. Your attitudes seem to be based on desperation. I am not sure this hobby is the best use of your money.

    Quote Originally Posted by OldButNotDead  [View Original Post]
    Primarily to DesertRat520, Mr. Goodtime, and Uncivil.

    I think you haven't encountered the right escorts. Or maybe something about who you are kept you from opening up to what you might have experienced. The Sufis have a saying, "There are as many paths to God as there are souls. ".

    My sense is that in your minds, anyone who sells sex automatically falls into one narrow category of humanity. Read my reviews. I've written here about ladies that ripped me off one way or another, but probly more that I had a very enjoyable experience with.

    The saying, "You get what you pay for", applies to more than just money on the table. It also applies to whatever emotional investment, however temporary, you're willing to make.

    There's a Bonnie Raitt song with a line, "You get just what you give out, that's the only way the game is played. ".

    I'm old, and in poor health. Maybe why'all will end up there someday. I'm incredibly grateful for the response I get when I open myself up to the escorts I see.

    I'm not a marshmallow. I'd match resums any time. But the tone of your posts suggests to me that you see yourselves as mentally, emotionally, and ethically several levels above the ladies you (and I) pay for sex.

    We're all individuals. To characterize all escorts as messed-up dysfunctional druggies with no other opportunities in their lives is a pretty distorted view of humanity and of the world we live in.

    I'm very, very glad my experience is different than yours.

  13. #3608
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    DublinWhet

    Two bad experiences in one day.

    Long time lurker, first time poster.

    http://tucson.backpage.com/BodyRubs/...93-32/12853019

    Arrived on time, beautiful woman, pics do not do her justice, beautiful fake breasts and very much in shape. Marignal area, Nice set up in the apt, I go into the massage room, undress, stumble and catch myself on her massage table. It BREAKS! She starts crying. I dressed, left the money and left. Any one have anything to report on her?

    http://tucson.backpage.com/FemaleEsc...ad-55/15242085

    Was contacted by Kristine. Thought, what the heck and the price was right. She says give me 30 minutes, instructs me to go to a circle K and get her a drink and call her from there. I call, no answer. I text, no answer, I call a few more times, no answer.

    Has anyone had similar experiences with this one?

    Been a hobbyist for over 10 yrs and never had two strikes in one day.

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    OldButNotDead

    A Response (Pretty Rational, I Hope) From A Different Viewpoint

    Primarily to DesertRat520, Mr. Goodtime, and Uncivil.

    I think you haven't encountered the right escorts. Or maybe something about who you are kept you from opening up to what you might have experienced. The Sufis have a saying, "There are as many paths to God as there are souls. ".

    My sense is that in your minds, anyone who sells sex automatically falls into one narrow category of humanity. Read my reviews. I've written here about ladies that ripped me off one way or another, but probly more that I had a very enjoyable experience with.

    The saying, "You get what you pay for", applies to more than just money on the table. It also applies to whatever emotional investment, however temporary, you're willing to make.

    There's a Bonnie Raitt song with a line, "You get just what you give out, that's the only way the game is played. ".

    I'm old, and in poor health. Maybe why'all will end up there someday. I'm incredibly grateful for the response I get when I open myself up to the escorts I see.

    I'm not a marshmallow. I'd match resumés any time. But the tone of your posts suggests to me that you see yourselves as mentally, emotionally, and ethically several levels above the ladies you (and I) pay for sex.

    We're all individuals. To characterize all escorts as messed-up dysfunctional druggies with no other opportunities in their lives is a pretty distorted view of humanity and of the world we live in.

    I'm very, very glad my experience is different than yours.

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    Ramrawd

    Erica

    Quote Originally Posted by DesertDenizen1  [View Original Post]
    Just a heads up, Erica is UTR now but is working on posting. I met her through a referral from a provider that does post, though not often. Erica is just gorgeous, and I don't know how everyone define GFE, but she was that for me. She doesn't drive and is central but cannot do incall, so not the most convenient. But she has a rocking body, is sober, good attitude. Not sure there is more to ask for.
    Who's Erica?

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