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  1. #3938
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    M Scores Easy

    I call

    Quote Originally Posted by ThatGuy23  [View Original Post]
    I'm not sure why you'd have to do that. We're just paying for their time and companionship. Nothing illegal about that, I don't think.
    By getting her to agree that she dropped the envelop outside her door, you are not paying for anything whatsoever. You are simply returning lost money.

    Anything that happens after that, it is just like you met any person and hooked up with them. The key is make sure she says yes after you ask her "Did you drop this?" If she doesn't say yes, proceed with caution, or you can decide to leave at that point.

  2. #3937
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    Ho Hunter 328
    Quote Originally Posted by StressedOut  [View Original Post]
    On the other hand..we meet a woman we like..we take her to dinner...to a show..buy her flowers..candy...whatever else she might like just to get into her pants or down her shirt...seems to me we SOare paying for sex there.
    You always end up paying for it one way or another.

    Stay safe, and happy hunting.

  3. #3936
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    Ho Hunter 328
    Quote Originally Posted by Nrlmus  [View Original Post]
    Yea, I don't know Ho. Your address, your valuables, your identity, plus neighbors, etc. Once you know her maybe but with the new blood the incall is always safer.

    And even knowing them doesn't guarantee much really. Once after I asked her to dress sexy but be discrete one of my well-known-to-me ladies decided to show up dressed like a true "professional", if you know what I mean. Sorry but since then I prefer not to deal with outcalls. Thank God it was a bit after midnight on a summer weekday and thus (I think) nobody was walking the dog. Obviously I haven't seen her since but you never know about those ladies what gets into their head what they'd hear and what gets lost in transmission, what registers and what doesn't, whether you understand the same words similarly, and not to be underestimated, where are they coming from to see you. I mean if I had a garage and her car had tainted windows maybe.

    I mean maybe for you and where you live it's not a big deal but I bet for most of us the incall is much safer bet then the outcall.
    Obviously do as much research as possible on the girl before hand, that will minimize the chances of any issues. If they don't have multiple good reviews, from known reviewers, then obviously I wouldn't have them come to my house. As for my neighbors, they'd probably just assume it's another model coming over for a photo shoot. It's not at all unusual for me to have attractive younger women coming by at any hour of the day or night.

    Stay safe, and happy hunting.

  4. #3935
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    Talisker1370

    I'm wating for you - Braintree

    http://massachusetts.backpage.com/Fe...22-23/25730278

    Took the plunge for a $100 special. I was told it was for a half.

    Not sure if it was the girl in the pics, thick but cute. Nice cans.

    Service was delivered as expected and ok. Would repeat, not a must go to, but easy to setup and get to if I am looking for something fast.

  5. #3934
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    Yellow Fever

    Sweet Asian May

    Visited May this week $$ for an hour great massage and what a party. Second time as good as the first and would definitely repeat.

    YF.

  6. #3933
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    Nrlmus
    Quote Originally Posted by StressedOut  [View Original Post]

    On the other hand..we meet a woman we like..we take her to dinner...to a show..buy her flowers..candy...whatever else she might like just to get into her pants or down her shirt...seems to me we SOare paying for sex there.
    Amen! I think I'd be doing all that tomorrow. She'd have to work hard to get into my pants though. LOL.

  7. #3932
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    Stressed Out

    It doesn't matter

    Quote Originally Posted by ThatGuy23  [View Original Post]
    I'm not sure why you'd have to do that. We're just paying for their time and companionship. Nothing illegal about that, I don't think.
    It doesn't much matter what happens, what you say or do...if they want you they will have you. Think of it...a cop can run an ad implying if not outright selling sex..have you call and make the arrangements and then bust you when you show up. Or they can respond to an ad themselves, show up...get undressed and get up on the table while the provider touches them and in some cases get the actually HJ or whatever and then bust you and say the provider was the solicitor.

    Some day some lawyer or client will have the balls to get up and make a case out of an arrest that it was 'entrapment' or you weren't paying for sex but for 'companionship' or whatever else you want to call it. Until then..we just deal with it.

    On the other hand..we meet a woman we like..we take her to dinner...to a show..buy her flowers..candy...whatever else she might like just to get into her pants or down her shirt...seems to me we SOare paying for sex there.

  8. #3931
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    Nrlmus
    Quote Originally Posted by HoHunter328  [View Original Post]
    I agree that some higher priced girls are lower volume, and therefore less likely to attract attention. But not always, especially with many of the traveling girls. According to US News, the average domestic airline ticket is just under $400. Average price for a 4 star hotel in Boston is $200+ per night. One week visiting ad on eros is $125 (visiting VIP ad is $200). So let's say a traveling escort charging $300 an hour comes to Boston for a week. Her expenses for the trip are $2,000+, so she needs to see at least 7 guys just to cover her expenses. She'll probably only work 5 of the 7 days she's here, so that means at least 1.4 guys per day to cover expenses. Traveling pretty much necessitates seeing at least three or four guys per day in order to make a worthwhile profit. Now that's assuming there's nothing going on in Boston which makes the hotel rates go up... If that happens, she may need to see 5 or more guys per day. I like to see girls 4 or 5 times a week, which puts the $300+ girls outside of my budget. But I have met a few of them on occasion for photo shoots (and sometimes worked out alternative payments, but that's not really germane to the topic at hand). This has allowed me an opportunity to spend several hours with them, and observe how they book appointments while taking breaks between sets. Some of them in my experience are just as high volume as the lower priced backpage girls.

    I stand by my statement that outcalls are safer, you know exactly how much traffic you have in a day. Plus Uncle LEO probably isn't staking out your house because it's a known hotspot, unlike certain hotels (the ones in Waltham come to mind). But I also understand that many of you prefer incalls because you simply don't have other viable options.

    Stay safe, and happy hunting.
    Yea, I don't know Ho. Your address, your valuables, your identity, plus neighbors, etc. Once you know her maybe but with the new blood the incall is always safer.

    And even knowing them doesn't guarantee much really. Once after I asked her to dress sexy but be discrete one of my well-known-to-me ladies decided to show up dressed like a true "professional", if you know what I mean. Sorry but since then I prefer not to deal with outcalls. Thank God it was a bit after midnight on a summer weekday and thus (I think) nobody was walking the dog. Obviously I haven't seen her since but you never know about those ladies what gets into their head what they'd hear and what gets lost in transmission, what registers and what doesn't, whether you understand the same words similarly, and not to be underestimated, where are they coming from to see you. I mean if I had a garage and her car had tainted windows maybe.

    I mean maybe for you and where you live it's not a big deal but I bet for most of us the incall is much safer bet then the outcall.

  9. #3930
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    Ho Hunter 328
    Quote Originally Posted by PwHerman  [View Original Post]
    Ho your post is a huge generalization of the state of incalls. While your post may be accurate and relevant with the vast majority of churn and burn BP girls it is completely off the mark with higher end girls.

    I do want to say I have experience with both ends of the pool so I feel qualified to comment. What I have found is that the higher end girls, $300+ , only need to see a few, 2, 3, maybe 4 guys a day to make it work. They also don't offer half hours for a see-note. They also stay at much better hotels. Let me give you an example. I saw Arielle Lace ($350) a couple years ago. She stayed at a nice hotel that caters to convention / meeting types. She looks like she is a biz woman when she checks in and sees a max of 3 guys a day. When I walked in I looked just like most of the guys heading to their conference rooms / bathroom / restaurant etc. Let me put it this way, I felt safer seeing her than I did driving 128. Compare that to the BP girl offering $80 quickies at a hotel that every guy needs to walk by the desk and you see the vast difference in exposure and risk.

    And that's what its about right? Exposure and risk. The bottom line in my playbook is the lower the price, the cheaper the hotel the greater the exposure and then the greater the risk. Having said all that I have only done incalls for the last 6 years and only got myself in a potential jam once. That one time I am pretty sure it was my own fault trying to be too cute in eluding the the front desk. At the end of the day, all activities have some level of risk and it is all about knowing your surroundings, knowing when to bail and managing the experience.
    I agree that some higher priced girls are lower volume, and therefore less likely to attract attention. But not always, especially with many of the traveling girls. According to US News, the average domestic airline ticket is just under $400. Average price for a 4 star hotel in Boston is $200+ per night. One week visiting ad on eros is $125 (visiting VIP ad is $200). So let's say a traveling escort charging $300 an hour comes to Boston for a week. Her expenses for the trip are $2,000+, so she needs to see at least 7 guys just to cover her expenses. She'll probably only work 5 of the 7 days she's here, so that means at least 1.4 guys per day to cover expenses. Traveling pretty much necessitates seeing at least three or four guys per day in order to make a worthwhile profit. Now that's assuming there's nothing going on in Boston which makes the hotel rates go up... If that happens, she may need to see 5 or more guys per day. I like to see girls 4 or 5 times a week, which puts the $300+ girls outside of my budget. But I have met a few of them on occasion for photo shoots (and sometimes worked out alternative payments, but that's not really germane to the topic at hand). This has allowed me an opportunity to spend several hours with them, and observe how they book appointments while taking breaks between sets. Some of them in my experience are just as high volume as the lower priced backpage girls.

    I stand by my statement that outcalls are safer, you know exactly how much traffic you have in a day. Plus Uncle LEO probably isn't staking out your house because it's a known hotspot, unlike certain hotels (the ones in Waltham come to mind). But I also understand that many of you prefer incalls because you simply don't have other viable options.

    Stay safe, and happy hunting.

  10. #3929
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    ThatGuy23
    Quote Originally Posted by MScoresEasy  [View Original Post]
    On an incall, when the door opens, I always have a sealed envelope and say,"You must have dropped this, I found it in front of your door."

    If there is a sting: " prosecution must prove that the defendant requested another person to engage in an act of prostitution, that the defendant intended to engage in an act of prostitution, and that the other person received the request. The request needs to be be clear and unequivocal with the specific intent to solicit an act of prostitution.".

    Use that guideline, select your words and actions accordingly, and you can not get arrest for anything illegal.

    Happy hunting!
    I'm not sure why you'd have to do that. We're just paying for their time and companionship. Nothing illegal about that, I don't think.

  11. #3928
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    Short Stroke

    Cops lie?

    Quote Originally Posted by Katokay  [View Original Post]
    The one thing you left out is cops lie..
    There was an article back some time ago where the local LEO stated that in alleged prostitution or sex for a fee cases the arrest, whether they get a conviction or not, is not the point. They are willing to put you thru a living nightmare with the embarrassment by placing your mug shot in the paper just over the mere involvement to expose you as a possible client. The damage done! Not guilty? Where do you get exonerated in the paper? Ain't going to happen. They win!

    Think of this. For a provider it is a misdemeanor or $200 ticket. For the client it is $1000 and depending on where you get busted you watch a funky video.

    LEO runs phony ads to entice you to respond to there little web and they got ya!

  12. #3927
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    Katokay
    Quote Originally Posted by MScoresEasy  [View Original Post]
    On an incall, when the door opens, I always have a sealed envelope and say,"You must have dropped this, I found it in front of your door."

    If there is a sting: " prosecution must prove that the defendant requested another person to engage in an act of prostitution, that the defendant intended to engage in an act of prostitution, and that the other person received the request. The request needs to be be clear and unequivocal with the specific intent to solicit an act of prostitution.".

    Use that guideline, select your words and actions accordingly, and you can not get arrest for anything illegal.

    Happy hunting!
    The one thing you left out is cops lie..

  13. #3926
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    Nrlmus
    Quote Originally Posted by ThatGuy23  [View Original Post]
    Nrlmus, finally! I've been wondering why some girls use or change names, now it makes sense!

    There's a bodyrub girl in Boston advertising as Mia, for example, but I swore those pictures were once attached to the name Vanessa. And Erin in Quincy is now Lexi. And so on, and so on..
    Well, obviously they also change their names for more sinister reasons, like to start as Kim after she already ruined her a reputation as Debbie. But if it's happening at the same time and you know that it's her on both ads but under different names then, chances are, the reason is trying to get higher payers while not losing the lower payers at the same time.

  14. #3925
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    HowardSprague

    Exit 36

    Just paid a visit. Won't repeat. Standard two-call system to a moderately-priced chain hotel, or inn, as it seems to want to be called. Pretty, young Asian in her mid-twenties called Yo Yo. Limited English. Did one of those "accupressure" massages that, at least for me, are more annoying than anything else. After about ten minutes of that and some decent soft touch before and after the flip, the haggling began. I thought she overvalued her services. Maybe I'm just cheap. Settled on a nude HE -- not what I went there for, but in the end I'm glad I didn't spring for more. Did some roaming, which she squawked about. .7 and .6, which doesn't really seem like too much, but I just wasn't particularly satisfied overall. I think the same agency runs Exit 26, where I've had a better time. I know others have had better experiences, but, yeah, I won't repeat.

  15. #3924
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    SpermSac

    Name changes

    Quote Originally Posted by ThatGuy23  [View Original Post]
    Nrlmus, finally! I've been wondering why some girls use or change names, now it makes sense!

    There's a bodyrub girl in Boston advertising as Mia, for example, but I swore those pictures were once attached to the name Vanessa. And Erin in Quincy is now Lexi. And so on, and so on..
    If you talk to some of these providers that you know have changed their names and phone numbers you'll find out that they too on occassions run into some whackos for clients. Stalking or even phone harassment becomes their issue.

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