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  1. #15377

    Only THEIR time is valuable.

    Quote Originally Posted by HollandGuy1978  [View Original Post]
    http://grandrapids.backpage.com/Wome...iewed/41316972

    Texted her and she was available, she said she lives in Lowell area, told her I'm in Holland it would take me a little while to get there. She agreed but would not give me address, said to text when I got close. Drove all the way to Lowell exit, texted her and nothing, found a bar and had 3 drinks, still nothing. Headed back to Holland and she finally texted with some lame ass excuse, thanks for wasting my time.
    That is the Worst; I Hate when that happens. A long damn drive to get stood up. Thanks for telling us.

  2. #15376
    Quote Originally Posted by ChicagoSouth  [View Original Post]
    I see Kelly is posting again its been a long time since I have seen her. She always was great service.

    http://grandrapids.backpage.com/Ther...iends/41545357
    Saw Kelly a couple of weeks ago and she is as fantastic as she ever was. Her place on the West side is quiet and the neighbors are all at work. Very good BBBJ and DATY till she came. It took a few minutes for her to recover, but was ready for a Mish, then finished me off with a cowgirl. A mutual massage is encouraged and she really likes her breasts worked on. She's showered & clean, her place is nice, no smoking, but she has a cat. Not a tingle on the Spidey Senses, she makes you feel welcome and not a clock watcher.

  3. #15375
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1404

    Toftt

    Quote Originally Posted by Freessi  [View Original Post]
    It's Monday so according to Benz's rules it's the perfect day for a TOFTT. Unless someone beat me to it:

    http://grandrapids.backpage.com/Wome...-face/42378407
    Actually Monday is a busy day for the hookers. They are busy with all the married guys who tried hard to get laid all weekend, cleaning the house and going shopping and still no pussy for most of the married mongers LOL. So on Monday they say fuckit I'll go get some on my lunch hour or after work.

    Tuesday is the hookers slow day and the best day to negotiate.

    If you need a quick fix today and don't feel like taking on for the team, Autumn's phone is back on.

    UTR Ravenna. (This Monday morning she is in Standale).

    Autumn is a 27 yr old white small bbw in Ravenna, willing to do car dates out of a family home. (discretion is a must).

    No incall available at this time. If you want FS you have to bring your own cover.

    40 BBBJws, 80 CFS.

    The pic on the right is for you RogerOver, she is sporting a full set of teeth but they are fake.

    She gave me my first ever gum job and I regret telling her that I wanted more pressure. Popped way too soon.

    Takes direction well and is a sweet girl.

    Digits and Password for Frenz of Benz (senior members only).

    Happy hunting.
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  4. #15374

    Too good to be true?

    It's Monday so according to Benz's rules it's the perfect day for a TOFTT. Unless someone beat me to it:

    http://grandrapids.backpage.com/Wome...-face/42378407

  5. #15373

    Has anyone looked into this one?

    Can't find anything, which usually means THTBT. Ad's been running every day.

    http://grandrapids.backpage.com/Wome...e-now/41535702

  6. #15372

    Ivy

    http://grandrapids.backpage.com/Wome...eanor/42494582

    Ended up seeing her, good communication, got there and had a drink with her, felt comfortable, got started with BBBJ and then went to 69, the view was great. Never got past that as I was having such a good time with that, I stayed there till the finish. $ for hh will definitely repeat. Smoked in the room but that doesn't bother me as I smoke to, she took a hit off her crack pipe right before we got started, just putting that out there, don't bother me, just info for people that might not be cool with that.

  7. #15371

    Has anyone looked into this one?

    Can't find anything, which usually means THTBT. Ad's been running every day.

    http://grandrapids.backpage.com/Wome...e-now/41535702

  8. #15370

    Lacy

    http://grandrapids.backpage.com/Wome...iewed/41316972

    Texted her and she was available, she said she lives in Lowell area, told her I'm in Holland it would take me a little while to get there. She agreed but would not give me address, said to text when I got close. Drove all the way to Lowell exit, texted her and nothing, found a bar and had 3 drinks, still nothing. Headed back to Holland and she finally texted with some lame ass excuse, thanks for wasting my time.

  9. #15369

    Candi

    http://grandrapids.backpage.com/Wome...-6526/41340442

    Texted her and she responded right away, she said she was available. Told her I know donation is for her time but hypothetically if things went well would she be open to BBBJ and daty and then no response, so I take that as a no.

  10. #15368

    Kassie

    http://grandrapids.backpage.com/Wome...assie/42062907

    Texted back and forth with her today, cover is non negotiable she says and didn't seem like daty was either, decided not to see her. She says she is new, I told her about USA sex guide and what reviews can do for you, hopefully she will come around.

    T.

  11. #15367

    Kelly.

    I see Kelly is posting again its been a long time since I have seen her. She always was great service.

    http://grandrapids.backpage.com/Ther...iends/41545357

  12. #15366

    Alaskin Cutie

    Think I saw previous reviews that where good. Couldn't find any though.

    Any luck with FS? Details would be great.

    Thanks.

    http://grandrapids.backpage.com/Ther...-only/39918457

  13. #15365

    Sunny.

    Seen Sunny recently. Looks just like I remember. Still have the same energy as before. Definitely GFE. Would repeat as long as she is around. Was not shorted on time.

  14. #15364

    Guess I am getting too old

    Quote Originally Posted by EdMonger  [View Original Post]
    Yet another really cute girl who, IMO, makes herself a little less attractive with her makeup style. She seems to have very nice eyes, but the makeup and severe eyebrow work gives her a plastic "doll" look.

    Again just my opinion. She got a good review though, and she IS really cute.

  15. #15363

    Good advice, one caveat

    Quote Originally Posted by Benz1  [View Original Post]
    Since we have already mucked up this board with general info. I have one more update that was contributed by a provider that reads this forum. She feels that early arrivals create unnecessary risk of exposure to the monger sitting in front of the providers location. So I updated step number 8

    Step 9 : Knock on door. If the girl matches the pic stay, if not walk out and report back to USA that the pic doesn't match the girl.


    These are some steps you should take before you TOFTT. Please add to the list if you see anything I missed.

    Just trying to help.

    Fellow Monger Benz1.
    Excellent advice. And this step is generally good, but I would still urge caution, from a quite disturbing personal experience from many moons ago. This incident was before the general use of internet, when most providers posted on Backpage and the like, when they were still part of local "underground" publications. After being burned dozens of times by bait and switch operations, I had noticed the distinct connection between the performance of bait and switch girls, as opposed to other providers. Obviously we all know now that these are mostly shady pimp ops, where they don't give a shit about repeat customers, or the girls themselves. They just want the girls to get as much of your money as possible and get you out the door quickly.

    So, when I finally put that all together through extremely disappointing and expensive experience, I began to learn to look for keys in ads that would steer me toward genuine individual providers. Of course, the pimps know we try to avoid them, and so are always refining their techniques also. Long story short, I began walking away if the "door face" didn't match the "ad face".

    Which generally worked okay, except for some squawking from the provider. But.

    One fine afternoon, I found myself knocking on the door of a room in a fairly reputable hotel. In fact, a quite nice hotel. When I got the "door face", I politely said "Sorry, you aren't the girl in the ad" and began to walk the hallway to the elevator. I hadn't taken two steps when she called out "Frank", and two guys came out of the room next to hers and caught up with me at the elevator. Since it was mid-afternoon and mostly no guests, the elevator was still there and opened right away. But the lead guy got his foot in the door before it closed. Of course, they demanded money for "wasting her time ". I refused and they became more threatening. But I kept my head, and knowing that they were probably known to LEA, I told them I would pull the emergency stop on the elevator and set off the alarm if they didn't leave. I knew that they would not want to take the chance of causing a scene, and sure enough, after a couple more threats, they backed off. But when I got outside, the bigger mook was already there, must have run down the stairs. He didn't try anything, just followed me to my car and took down my plates.

    Nothing else ever came of it, but I can say that my heart was about to jump out of my chest the whole time.

    Just saying, good advice and the earlier steps should mitigate the risk of this happening, but always be aware of your surroundings. We can never eliminate all risk, just DO NOT put yourself in shady spots (of course Benz already covered this) and always keep your head. As long as you are in the right surroundings, pimps are at a much greater risk than we are, so remember that. But use that information wisely. Don't be threatening, just be outwardly calm, and keep making progress to safety, not quickly, just steadily.

    But Benz' post is excellent advice, just gauge the situation at the door. Sometimes it might be better to blow another 150-200 on a sub-par date than risk this type of encounter. I am sure Benz would agree, no system is perfect, so always be thinking.

    Oh, and one P.S.

    Once you realize what you are doing is working, and it becomes obvious that they know that you really have the upper hand, it can be kind of a rush. Do NOT get cocky. If you push them in any way, they WILL push back. They respect the threat of the law, not you. A mook is a mook because all he knows is being a bully. At some point, he WILL take the stupid risk of attacking you if he thinks you do not respect him.

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