I see your point
I see your point, and I should have done more research ahead of time. It's true, I've seen those same ads a bunch of times since. But I do still say it is basically lying on their part. If it had been under Body Rubs not Escort I wouldn't have minded. Same with regular providers. -those in body Rubs are advertising something different than those in escort. So I think I was justified to be unhappy. Also, seemed like a good idea to mention it here.
All of the AMPs advertise on both backpage and craigslist, many put the same ad under multiple categories, including body rubs and escorts. All of them include lots of pictures of very attractive, very young, asian women. None of them post any pictures of their actual providers. My guess is that over half the actual providers have sailed right on past their late 30's and are not nearly as attractive as the photos in the ads. That is just the way things are. No sense in getting angry about it. From the AMP owner's point of view, if they get more than a handful of extra clients per month as a result of the ads, then the ads have been worth the money.
I went to Super Relax in Raleigh (the one below a gym where you feel weights are going to drop through the ceiling) a couple of years ago and didn't read any reviews ahead of time, not knowing about this site.
There was no HE at all, I don't remember if I didn't tip at all or just left very little. But what are me mad was that I only found out about the place because they advertised under Escort. And they had lots of pictures of sexy Chinese women in the ad.
2 would be a good tip.
Keep in mind, she provided a full hour of dedicated service to you.
Most likely, she also receive outside of tips in either salary or a portion of the hourly fee.
But in regard to Lotus, at this point they don't even have a TS, which could differentiate it from a real MP.
It seems beyond legit at this point, so honestly if you want a really good massage, you are likely better at a real MP.
(They were just getting the doorbell working while I was there, so perhaps one will come later who knows.).
Tipping for legit only massage
When I am just going for a good massage and that is what I get and the attitude is good then I usually tip. 2. I know that the girls generally get less than half the massage fee, the house gets the rest. I was also told by one provider that they generally only get 2-3 customers per day on average. Of course the establishments that have a larger menu are busier and the girls get more customers than they can handle; as attested by all the posts of mongers complaining of interruptions from the door bell, etc. But for the legit places, 2-3 per day seems to be the norm.
I must admit that I am a bit of a soft touch. I generally tip 20% at restaurants if the service provided is good and the server's attitude is good. I know that waiters get sub-minimum wage and the tips are their primary source of income.
Closing early and open late
I apologize in advance, but I don't remember names or amounts for this story. Last winter I dreamed I went to VIP in Youngsville and got there at about 8:15 pm. An older, cute woman greeted me at the door, recognized me and let me to a room where another woman, slightly younger with longer hair, took over the massage. After a time, the woman who greeted me at the door asked if I wanted, for a pretty small fee an additional set of hands. She said it was closing time and I was their last customer. So the two of them worked me over, both cfs, CBJ (they changed the cover between turns).
About a month later I thought I had a great idea by arriving at the same time. But no, they were already closed!
This summer I went back in the middle of the day. FS was off the menu!
Do any AMPs stay open very late? 1 pm? I know the non-Asian places like Tomcats and Quality are open late.
Free table shower
Can we add a code for free table shower Tsi table shower included or tsn table shower negotiable or ts20 for always costs 20.
Or can senior member post the AMPs with free or where you talked them into free shower.
Its been on here before but about half the AMPs were open then.
How much to tip
Was going to head to lotus until I saw the reviews. Might still go but was wondering how much to tip. At a place like this, no touching, no HE, no nothing, you really are just paying for a massage. So should you even tip or maybe like. 1 or. 2 tip? I usually tip. 4 with a HE, never got FS before.
I was checking out this place about a month ago and chatted with a old Vietnam guy in the parking lot turns out he owns the building. He said a husband & wife were opening this place. I'm sure the American is the husband, she has NC massage license so I'm sure they are starting off as a legit store. But we all know cash is king, we will see how long they survive in this business being legit.
Went to Lotus. These past few lotus reviews are exactly what I experienced. On the flip while she was massaging my stomach I did lower my towel and let my little man do his thing. She said no, I said good tip, and she says tip for massage. She then said you do yourself. I said I'm ok and she apologized several times. I couldn't hold it so I said fine I'll self. She helped me with words of encouragement while massaging my chest and nipples and I finished. She complemented before and after. I self cleaned. She gave me an extra 10 min of massage. The massage was kinda rough. I'm a heavier guy so the massage on my back was killer.
Damage. 7 and. 2 for tip. Looks was 8/10 massage was 8/10.
I will repeat as soon as that older white guy leaves the establishment. I think that's why the lady was hesitant on the menu. Idk. For now I'll sit on the bench till I hear more items on the menu.
Stay thirsty my friends.
Say no to lotus
Masseuse was late 20s but very plain. Very Professional Non-Sensual Clothing.
Quality of massage was below average even for an AMP Massage. Besides not really getting any knots out, she spent almost the entire time on my Left side ignoring the right.
And most of the time on just the very back of my left thigh for no obvious reason.
Sensuality was less than zero. Never came close to any inappropriate area.
Based on prior post, I did everything possible to indicate additional interest, but she would have none of it.
On the Flip I tossed the towel off 4 time only to have it replaced immediately as she looked away so as not see anything.
2 of the 4 times was even flipped to the floor.
By a massive margin this was the biggest bust 4 me ever at an AMP with a lack of EITHER a good massage OR any sensuality.
I'm posting from phone in hopes of saving others time and money as soon as I can.
(Note: Edited with slightly more detail now that I'm back on a computer.)
I swung by and checked out the front of the store. The address is.
1606 K North Market Dr.
Raleigh, NC 27609.
You can get the phone number from Tenroof's post. If you drive into the Red Lobster parking lot and go to the rear of the building, turn around and you will be looking at the entrance to Lotus the next building over. Their parking entrance is the first entrance after the last Red Lobster entrance off North Market Dr.
I will definitely be checking the place out after the detailed posting from PenaltyKicker. I want to see this "easily the best looking provider I've had in this area" provider who gives "the best massage I've ever had, period". Sounds almost too good to be true. The way I figure, if true and no HE, then I can go home and be a stallion with my wife.
The Address for "Red Lobster" is.
4408 Old Wake Forest Rd.
Raleigh, NC 27609.
Red Lobster should be in the same Shopping Center as Lotus and should not be hard to find.
I was planning on heading down there this morning, but I think I'm going to pass based on the last review.
I can confirm the "White Guy" part though. (Kinda Freaked me out a bit too).
I called yesterday to get opening times and by the voice I could tell it was a "White Guy" who probably grew up in this area.
He did not even say "Lotus Massage" to start and I was about to hang up and say "Wrong Number" before he corrected himself.
Start Time is 9:30 am.
Can anyone provide the address for Lotus? Not sure where the red lobster is.
Saw an earlier post about Lotus opening today, so decided to TOFTT, even though I'm not a senior member. I'm in school and my class wasn't too far away, so thought I'd scope it out after class.
I walk in there, and I see an older white gentlemen on his phone on the couch. Soon as he gets off the phone, he proceeds to ask if I wanted a massage. Come to find out, the guy manages the place. Never seen a non-asian woman there, so it kinda weirded me out, even though he seemed nice enough. So he yells across the building for the massage lady to inform her that I'm there. He then escorts me to a room. It was a private room with a door and walls, not sure if the door locks. After I get undressed, this beautiful woman comes in. She is easily the best looking provider I've had in this area. Short, thin, and spoke better English than all my other providers I've had.
I requested a hard massage, and she gave it. It was impressive for a girl that little to be that strong. I must say it too was the best massage I've ever had, period. Part of the massage was towel-free. After awhile she covered my man area. Her strength was her upper-body massage. Then came the flip.
I had a feeling when I flipped over what was to come, or not to come, by the way she held the towel up as to block her eyes from me as I turned over. She started with a facial massage, which was good. Worked her way down to my chest / ab region, then the arms and legs. She made sure I was covered up. "It" accidentally came out once, and she apologized. After she finished my legs, she very quickly said she was done and left out the room. Didn't even give me time to ask about anything extra. Got dressed, and walked out the room where she was waiting with a bottle of water, and also asked for a tip. I left the tip on the table because I didn't think I was going to see her on my way out. Took the water and split.
I want to note that in addition to getting no HE, the place smelled like sawdust. Also the oil she used has a stinch that stayed with me home. Not horrible, but not something I wanted to smell like. Also their cc machine is down, so they only accepted cash, owner said it should be up in a few days. It was. 70 for an hour.
I also want to note that I didn't give any indications that I wanted extras. I didn't try to touch at all during massage, as I have a philosophy that when their a hole in a wall massage parlor who only have male customers should know what they all come there for. She may have I also got the indication I was LEO, as I am in my late 20's, short cut hair, and semi-muscular stature, to which she commented on. Otherwise, it was great place for a massage by a young good-looking girl. Just thought I'd contribute to society.