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  1. #8241

    Maybe in a perfect world

    Quote Originally Posted by Tonk49  [View Original Post]
    I would like a little feedback on a couple of questions. Regarding my low post count I can assure you that I have been around the block a few times and I still miss the ole girl from Erlanger and Dani from Cov. Question # 1 Lets say you made a appointment yesterday for a dream today at 10 am, do you wait to hear from back from them on the morning or do you hit the road and send them some text along the way since it will take a hour to get there. Question #2 How many text are to many, I sent three during that hour in witch Busty Red finely responded at 10:15 text stating "she over slept""and"why I would come without talking to her Hun" and then she went crickets on me so who is wrong. By the way this would have been my third visit with her. Question #3 why can't they just phone you instead of a sorry ass text, I would like to hear a voice at times. Question#4 Does't 10 mean 10 or is it 10:25? I did text back and told her I'll stay close and get back to me. She did text back at 10;50 thanking me for my business but she will pass from now on Ha Ha. So now I'm blackballed with her since she can't keep time. Sorry about all of this just had to get it off of my.

    Chest. Be safe out there.
    You have to understand, these girls aren't exactly running professional businesses. If most of them could operate in a responsible manner, they would not be doing this for a living. You have to be on top of your game with them.

    If you are driving more than an hour to see someone, you absolutely should check before you get on the road. Hell I text when I'm leaving the house before I see a girl 10 minutes away.

    I've had almost zero success with trying to schedule a day or more in advance. My best tactic has always been to just ask if they are available that morning. At least then you know they are awake and responding. These girls get dozens of calls and texts. They don't have secretaries. They don't have day planners. They make all sorts of mistakes.

    You can't think of this as a regular business. You can keep getting mad because they don't have the same professional manner as your dentist, or you can change your approach and actually manage to see the girl.

  2. #8240

    Always follow up

    I always get a confirmation text before leaving g wherever I'm at. As for text vs calling. Texting is the norm. A lot of the ladies don't have a burner phone but rather use a text app like text now.

    The lady you mentioned is fantastic. I saw her once and had a toe curling experience. We were set up for a second session days later and she became the invisible woman. Sounds like that is her norm. She later text to tell me of her problem and why she had stood me up. I thanked her for her call and told her I wouldn't see her again. That was a couple years ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tonk49  [View Original Post]
    I would like a little feedback on a couple of questions. Regarding my low post count I can assure you that I have been around the block a few times and I still miss the ole girl from Erlanger and Dani from Cov. Question # 1 Lets say you made a appointment yesterday for a dream today at 10 am, do you wait to hear from back from them on the morning or do you hit the road and send them some text along the way since it will take a hour to get there. Question #2 How many text are to many, I sent three during that hour in witch Busty Red finely responded at 10:15 text stating "she over slept""and"why I would come without talking to her Hun" and then she went crickets on me so who is wrong. By the way this would have been my third visit with her. Question #3 why can't they just phone you instead of a sorry ass text, I would like to hear a voice at times. Question#4 Does't 10 mean 10 or is it 10:25? I did text back and told her I'll stay close and get back to me. She did text back at 10;50 thanking me for my business but she will pass from now on Ha Ha. So now I'm blackballed with her since she can't keep time. Sorry about all of this just had to get it off of my.

    Chest. Be safe out there.

  3. #8239

    Feedback

    Quote Originally Posted by Tonk49  [View Original Post]
    I would like a little feedback on a couple of questions. Regarding my low post count I can assure you that I have been around the block a few times and I still miss the ole girl from Erlanger and Dani from Cov. Question # 1 Lets say you made a appointment yesterday for a dream today at 10 am, do you wait to hear from back from them on the morning or do you hit the road and send them some text along the way since it will take a hour to get there. Question #2 How many text are to many, I sent three during that hour in witch Busty Red finely responded at 10:15 text stating "she over slept""and"why I would come without talking to her Hun" and then she went crickets on me so who is wrong. By the way this would have been my third visit with her. Question #3 why can't they just phone you instead of a sorry ass text, I would like to hear a voice at times. Question#4 Does't 10 mean 10 or is it 10:25? I did text back and told her I'll stay close and get back to me. She did text back at 10;50 thanking me for my business but she will pass from now on Ha Ha. So now I'm blackballed with her since she can't keep time. Sorry about all of this just had to get it off of my.

    Chest. Be safe out there.
    I'm sure you have learned this by now but I always text shortly beforehand to say if agreed time is still ok. If I don't get a response within a certain amount of time I will bail. I also don't travel more than a half an hour tona provider. Some of youndo so you may have other suggestions.

    As for your specific situation, I kind of had a similar experience with her recently. Appointment with as at 9, said she slept late and was in the shower. Had to wait until 9:30. Almost left when she said she was ready. Was I annoyed? Yes but for some I can let it slide because her skills are top notch.

  4. #8238
    Quote Originally Posted by UOnlyLiveOnce  [View Original Post]
    But I don't think the demise of BP necessarily caused USA ladies to leave. Some of the departed USA ladies had been around a while and may have been looking to cut back or get out of the hobby anyway.
    It seems to me that there is a pretty steady turnover of providers, aside from BP getting curtailed.

    Alaska Tom.

  5. #8237

    Scheduling and crickets

    I would like a little feedback on a couple of questions. Regarding my low post count I can assure you that I have been around the block a few times and I still miss the ole girl from Erlanger and Dani from Cov. Question # 1 Lets say you made a appointment yesterday for a dream today at 10 am, do you wait to hear from back from them on the morning or do you hit the road and send them some text along the way since it will take a hour to get there. Question #2 How many text are to many, I sent three during that hour in witch Busty Red finely responded at 10:15 text stating "she over slept""and"why I would come without talking to her Hun" and then she went crickets on me so who is wrong. By the way this would have been my third visit with her. Question #3 why can't they just phone you instead of a sorry ass text, I would like to hear a voice at times. Question#4 Does't 10 mean 10 or is it 10:25? I did text back and told her I'll stay close and get back to me. She did text back at 10;50 thanking me for my business but she will pass from now on Ha Ha. So now I'm blackballed with her since she can't keep time. Sorry about all of this just had to get it off of my.

    Chest. Be safe out there.

  6. #8236

    Perception is Accurate

    Quote Originally Posted by CincyHobbist  [View Original Post]
    That since BP went tits up and the USA ads have been flooded with new women, that it seems the USA regular ladies have dropped out of the scene?

    It almost makes a hobbyist want to find a new hobby!
    But I don't think the demise of BP necessarily caused USA ladies to leave. Some of the departed USA ladies had been around a while and may have been looking to cut back or get out of the hobby anyway.

  7. #8235

    Time waster

    I'll white knight. I counted 3, with one price discrepancy.

    Cite your source for 6 with different fees, if you please.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gatty23  [View Original Post]
    SincyCinnamon might have set a new record for wasting everybody's time checking on ads. She currently has 6 ads posted. Of course they have different fees as well. Why should we visit somebody this desperate or who just doesn't mind wasting our time?

  8. #8234
    Quote Originally Posted by Eajry  [View Original Post]
    "People just aren't that affiliative. Everyone is working an angle, and in most cases altruism is non-existent. While I don't know you, the behavior I see follows a predictive path. You offer yourself up as a savior to these girls, and when they don't respond appropriately, you become coercive and spiteful. Filling pages of the forum about them, mainly trying to punish them. Example here:

    The personality type is very, very easy to identify. It's kinda like the "good guy" angle people play, or I see on tinder, how they're a nice guy and they get a match, don't get a response from their "Hey, what's going on?" message, and proceed to say things "your just like the rest stupid ****, always chasing the ass holes". Like lmao, the most contradicting shit I've ever seen! It's unbelievable. This is no different; its borderline sociopathic even- where the guy doesn't get the response that aligned with their intentions, and proceed to be vengeful, spiteful, and malicious in all there intents, in order to get back at them. All while trying to play this fucking card as if they're doing the right thing to help them. No, ironically you're not. If you want to TRULY help them, you wouldn't see a single, fucking, one of these people. Stop the fucking facade, the only person you're fooling is, at best, yourself.

    And if you / really / want to help addicts, guess what, there's places that you can do that! Rooms, service centers, churches, prisons- there are plenty of people on the front line that genuinely need help. They have to be seeking it though. Recovery is for the people that want it, not the ones that need it. But I know you know this, or you should if you're this self-righteous healer and prosperity provider that you assert you are. Your motives are spoken by your actions- and going through a few posts indicates your personality type is easily identifiable as the previous fore mentioned "good guy". It comes down to this cycle, that you quite honestly have probably practiced in your real relationships as well.

    Expectation. Motive - Unmet Expectation / Possibly hurt feelings (key) - Spite and retaliation to those that hurt / didn't meet expectations. When you wan't to objectively look at your own actions and own part in any or all of this, you can make progression in correcting your behavior, and possibly even attain a zen moment where you're like "Holy shit, I was in the wrong". Until then, stop the childish posting attacking them (and the mongers that are feeding their addiction! Crowning yourself as this savior is so fake and so absolutely appalling that it's embarrassing and not attractive.
    Well said!!

  9. #8233
    Quote Originally Posted by Scarab31  [View Original Post]
    I'm not into high school like drama. Sorry. You'll have to look elsewhere for somebody to entertain you.

    Recess is over.
    I didn't think you would be able to explain yourself. Thanks for confirming that. LOL.

  10. #8232

    True

    Quote Originally Posted by UOnlyLiveOnce  [View Original Post]
    As for Freckle, I do not know him. I do know that no one ever does anything for 100% pure reasons. But to each his own.
    I like freckles and finding someone with great freckles who can fuck and suck me like no other, well that's something that isn't 100% pure. Yet then again maybe it is, because it's pure pleasure!

  11. #8231

    Vetting Process

    Quote Originally Posted by Raider1687  [View Original Post]
    True or false? Did you or did you not make an assumption about Brooke's screening process based on his post? Yes or No?

    You said yourself, status OR references. So, why make a post about her screening process, when you don't know anything about it. It is a business to her, don't you think you should be sure of something before you say it?

    Just like your last post about the provider creating a username, is it that or her screening process that you are attacking, exactly?
    I will not comment on Brooke's screening process, but I will say sometime a telephone call will get you a lot further than a text message. I've called and chatted with several providers and was able to acquire appointments without an extensive vetting process and all the while reading about guys talking about the vetting process they endured. Perhaps, the young man just has charisma and woo his way an appointment.

  12. #8230

    Kids

    Quote Originally Posted by Raider1687  [View Original Post]
    True or false? Did you or did you not make an assumption about Brooke's screening process based on his post? Yes or No?

    You said yourself, status OR references. So, why make a post about her screening process, when you don't know anything about it. It is a business to her, don't you think you should be sure of something before you say it?

    Just like your last post about the provider creating a username, is it that or her screening process that you are attacking, exactly?
    I'm not into high school like drama. Sorry. You'll have to look elsewhere for somebody to entertain you.

    Recess is over.

  13. #8229

    Glad I'm not the only one.

    Quote Originally Posted by FreckleFreak  [View Original Post]
    AutumnSkyy was a provider in Indy. She was also a crack addict. One day she called me and said she was being evicted from the home she was living at and where I was staying with her. How could this be? I was giving her the money for the rent. I was paying for the utilities. I was paying for her cancer treatments. How could she be evicted? Well the landlord told me she hadn't paid rent for 2-1/2 months. That can't be true, I gave her the money for the rent. Well it was because she smoked the rent along with the money she was making as a provider. I left and said good luck and call me if you ever want to make a change. She moved in with another addict and I paid $100 wk on utility bills so she could stay there and have a roof over her head. I never gave her cash again. I then contacted all of her regulars and told them she was a active crack addict and suggested that if they had any heart at all they would stop seeing her and enabling her. Most of them stopped seeing her. Soon she had no money. 4 weeks later I got a call from her asking for my help. She was ready to find a rehab facility and get clean. She had finally hit rock bottom and made the choice to change. We researched rehab facilities and she got into one. She stayed there for 7 months and never used again..
    "People just aren't that affiliative. Everyone is working an angle, and in most cases altruism is non-existent. While I don't know you, the behavior I see follows a predictive path. You offer yourself up as a savior to these girls, and when they don't respond appropriately, you become coercive and spiteful. Filling pages of the forum about them, mainly trying to punish them. Example here:

    The personality type is very, very easy to identify. It's kinda like the "good guy" angle people play, or I see on tinder, how they're a nice guy and they get a match, don't get a response from their "Hey, what's going on?" message, and proceed to say things "your just like the rest stupid ****, always chasing the ass holes". Like lmao, the most contradicting shit I've ever seen! It's unbelievable. This is no different; its borderline sociopathic even- where the guy doesn't get the response that aligned with their intentions, and proceed to be vengeful, spiteful, and malicious in all there intents, in order to get back at them. All while trying to play this fucking card as if they're doing the right thing to help them. No, ironically you're not. If you want to TRULY help them, you wouldn't see a single, fucking, one of these people. Stop the fucking facade, the only person you're fooling is, at best, yourself.

    And if you / really / want to help addicts, guess what, there's places that you can do that! Rooms, service centers, churches, prisons- there are plenty of people on the front line that genuinely need help. They have to be seeking it though. Recovery is for the people that want it, not the ones that need it. But I know you know this, or you should if you're this self-righteous healer and prosperity provider that you assert you are. Your motives are spoken by your actions- and going through a few posts indicates your personality type is easily identifiable as the previous fore mentioned "good guy". It comes down to this cycle, that you quite honestly have probably practiced in your real relationships as well.

    Expectation. Motive - Unmet Expectation / Possibly hurt feelings (key) - Spite and retaliation to those that hurt / didn't meet expectations. When you wan't to objectively look at your own actions and own part in any or all of this, you can make progression in correcting your behavior, and possibly even attain a zen moment where you're like "Holy shit, I was in the wrong". Until then, stop the childish posting attacking them (and the mongers that are feeding their addiction! Crowning yourself as this savior is so fake and so absolutely appalling that it's embarrassing and not attractive.

  14. #8228

    Is it just my perception?

    That since BP went tits up and the USA ads have been flooded with new women, that it seems the USA regular ladies have dropped out of the scene?

    It almost makes a hobbyist want to find a new hobby!

  15. #8227
    Quote Originally Posted by Scarab31  [View Original Post]
    Dude referred to me as a dick. I didn't label anybody in a derogatory way. You have it all wrong I'm afraid.

    That's your idea of 'ripping'? Lol

    Rumors, about who? Most high quality providers wont see somebody unless they have senior staus or good references. Is that not fair to say? Sure there are exceptions. Stop acting as if a provider hasnt createda username and gave themselves a review before. Not saying thats the case here, but somebody with one post of one of the best providers is certainly suspect.


    Imho of course
    True or false? Did you or did you not make an assumption about Brooke's screening process based on his post? Yes or No?

    You said yourself, status OR references. So, why make a post about her screening process, when you don't know anything about it. It is a business to her, don't you think you should be sure of something before you say it?

    Just like your last post about the provider creating a username, is it that or her screening process that you are attacking, exactly?

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