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  1. #14388

    Indo.

    Anyone has info on this one?

    https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...7-0151c3af7685

    Fb search results in pics that I think I saw before.

  2. #14387

    Richmond model

    You should be able to find her instagram.

    Beautiful local girl been posting for 1 yr.

    You would be my all time hero if.

    Land her.

  3. #14386
    I saw that one and passes as bio seems to be GPS written all over. I did message her so ill let you know if she respond.

  4. #14385
    Quote Originally Posted by TravelinSD  [View Original Post]
    The thing your ratio doesn't take into account is what the SD's standards are for an SB. If you're a picky SD, once you filter out for age, body type, etc. , then use your own filter to get rid of the ugly, obvious gps, etc. The effective ratio on SA is actually much smaller. Not complaining, but if you are looking for more than just sex, finding a match is not as easy as you would think. I've often said the site is a very diverse group of people looking for very diverse things.

    Good Hunting,

    Travelin.
    The ratio is basically pussy to dick, which isn't to hard to figure. Finding a match is great but remember that its being paid for. When you factor gps orur own personal preference Its going to b different for everyone. Most talking ratio are trying to not make it rocket science but females to men in a given area. Like you said there is something for everyone.

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  6. #14383

    The Ratio

    The thing your ratio doesn't take into account is what the SD's standards are for an SB. If you're a picky SD, once you filter out for age, body type, etc. , then use your own filter to get rid of the ugly, obvious gps, etc. The effective ratio on SA is actually much smaller. Not complaining, but if you are looking for more than just sex, finding a match is not as easy as you would think. I've often said the site is a very diverse group of people looking for very diverse things.

    Good Hunting,

    Travelin.

    Quote Originally Posted by Madaboutmax  [View Original Post]
    It's been discussed before, but I decided to do some research on the ratios on SA.

    I made a lot of assumptions in my estimation so the actual numbers could range between 10:1 to 30:1. The main point though is that the ratio is high and significantly in the SD's favor.

    This just confirms it is a numbers game. Maintain your negotiating position. If one SB doesn't accept your offer, there are plenty more that will.

  7. #14382

    More Interesting Numbers. At least to me! LOL

    Thinking more about the numbers:

    - According to the US census Bureau, there are approximately 125 million adult women in the US. Of which, approximately 25 million are in the ages of 18 to 30.

    - Using my area again as an example, there would be approximately 125,000 women between 18 to 30 in a 50 mile radius.

    - Upon a search on SA, there are almost 4,400 active profiles in the last 12 months.

    - Adjusting for the number of hidden and deleted profiles and ages above 30, there has to be approximately 5,000 active profiles in the last year.

    - That means roughly one in every 25 women between 18 and 30 has been active on SA in the last year.

    If you think about how many women would never consider it because they don't consider themselves remotely attractive, are already in a committed relationship, or have tried it in the past but not in the last 12 months, this number seems very high to me.

    This may mean that the Sugar Baby / Sugar Daddy lifestyle is a lot more mainstream than even I imagined. This means there is a very good chance the cute girl you see in public today has most likely considered the lifestyle already.

    Quote Originally Posted by Madaboutmax  [View Original Post]
    It's been discussed before, but I decided to do some research on the ratios on SA. The following are my estimates:

    - I found a few reports that Brandon Wades business, including SA, made over $30,000,000 last year.

    - I assume my real competition is limited to paid members in my area.

    - If you assume 50% of revenue comes from SA membership fees then that would be $15,000,000 per year from membership fees.

    - if you assume average membership fee is $70/ month or $840/ year than the number of members would be 18,000 at any point in time.

    - If you assume that 80% are from the US, then there would be 15,000 paid members in the US at any time.

    - Using an online tool, I see the population in a 50 mile radius from me is approximately 0. 5% of the US population.

    - Assuming my areas is representative of SA's typical demographics, I would expect aproximately 75 paid members in my area at any point in time.

    - Searching on SA, I can see there are 300 SB profiles active the last 24 hours and more than 1,000 in the last 2 weeks and at least 1,200 to 1,500 in the last month.

    - Ratio of active SB (in the last 30 days) to paid members is as much as 20:1.

    I made a lot of assumptions in my estimation so the actual numbers could range between 10:1 to 30:1. The main point though is that the ratio is high and significantly in the SD's favor.

    This just confirms it is a numbers game. Maintain your negotiating position. If one SB doesn't accept your offer, there are plenty more that will.

  8. #14381

    Social engineers

    Getting several 'send me your pics and numbers' right out of the gate.

    These have one picture, generic profile, and are always just out of town in VA Beach or NORVA.

    Only get them when I surface as premium.

    This is a well known scam. Beware.

    If you reply, they never reply back by normal conversation.

  9. #14380

    Numbers Game

    It's been discussed before, but I decided to do some research on the ratios on SA. The following are my estimates:

    - I found a few reports that Brandon Wades business, including SA, made over $30,000,000 last year.

    - I assume my real competition is limited to paid members in my area.

    - If you assume 50% of revenue comes from SA membership fees then that would be $15,000,000 per year from membership fees.

    - if you assume average membership fee is $70/ month or $840/ year than the number of members would be 18,000 at any point in time.

    - If you assume that 80% are from the US, then there would be 15,000 paid members in the US at any time.

    - Using an online tool, I see the population in a 50 mile radius from me is approximately 0. 5% of the US population.

    - Assuming my areas is representative of SA's typical demographics, I would expect aproximately 75 paid members in my area at any point in time.

    - Searching on SA, I can see there are 300 SB profiles active the last 24 hours and more than 1,000 in the last 2 weeks and at least 1,200 to 1,500 in the last month.

    - Ratio of active SB (in the last 30 days) to paid members is as much as 20:1.

    I made a lot of assumptions in my estimation so the actual numbers could range between 10:1 to 30:1. The main point though is that the ratio is high and significantly in the SD's favor.

    This just confirms it is a numbers game. Maintain your negotiating position. If one SB doesn't accept your offer, there are plenty more that will.

  10. #14379

    Findom

    Quote Originally Posted by FanRat  [View Original Post]
    I've seen that on the Interests part of SB's profiles and have wondered what does it mean?
    So apparently guys are talking this up as a real thing.

    Saying it is like a foot fetish LOL.

    The good news it weeds out the muddled headed under 25's for me.

    After I dismissed one as ' not a match' kept texting me.

    Broke my rule to never text again, but this one seemed geniune and.

    Acted like just selected the option from SA.

    Mistake. In the end she revealed what a sh** she is inside.

    Pissed me off but validated again when they focus only what you can do for them.

    You deserve what you get if you bite.

  11. #14378

    Gps

    I was talking to a pot and straight out she said $$ per date. That plus hotel and it gets to be a really expensive date!

    Do these young girls have any idea how hard is to make real money out in the world? LOL.

    I bet most of them live and pay few hundreds per month on rent. So one date to cover most if her rent. Geez.

    Countered at $$. We shall see.

  12. #14377
    Thanks!

    Do you guys post your pic on Tinder? How to be discreet?

    Good chance from Tinder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Makethescoop  [View Original Post]
    Tinder recently changed. You are no longer required to log in via FB. All that is required now is a phone number capabale of receiving a text verification. I had no trouble signing up with my GV number. For those of you that travel, there's also a setting that allows you to select location. That would allow you to make some connections ahead of time.

    Hope this helps!!

  13. #14376

    Tinder change

    Tinder recently changed. You are no longer required to log in via FB. All that is required now is a phone number capabale of receiving a text verification. I had no trouble signing up with my GV number. For those of you that travel, there's also a setting that allows you to select location. That would allow you to make some connections ahead of time.

    Hope this helps!!

  14. #14375
    Chances are she doesn't know what the word Platonic means.

    Quote Originally Posted by TwoDirection  [View Original Post]
    I actually don't do any filtering on the searching. Like, look at this girl:

    https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...6-14ac8d441113

    Her username is "ExxxoticSlut" and yet she has the "platonic" tag for what she's looking for. I'm not sure why she picked Platonic, but I wouldn't want to accidentally filter out someone who refers to herself with that 'S' word LOL.

    Likewise, I used to filter for just Slim / Athletic girls, but then I realized many girls' body perception is so messed up that you'll miss some girls who are actually slim but think they're curvy or have a few extra pounds. And I'd filter out black and mixed girls, but then noticed some girls who are like half Japanese and half Chinese will put themselves as mixed instead of Asian and I'd miss them.

  15. #14374

    Worth It?

    I think there are a number of factors that you have to consider when deciding if the bowl is for you:

    - How much time are you willing to spend (searching, messaging, meeting, wining, dining, etc)?

    - How much money are you willing to spend (entertainment, gifts, hotel, allowance, etc)?

    - How good is your game? (age, conversation, looks, etc)?

    - How good are you at sensing and dealing with BS (streetsmarts and patience)?

    - What type of relationship are you looking for (escort, utr, companion, classic SB, SB / GF, long term, short term, etc)?

    - How often do you want to meet?

    - How discreet do you need to be (what's at risk. SO, job, reputation, etc)?

    Depending on your answers, the bowl may or may not be for you.

    If you have limited time, limited money, little game, lack street smarts or get overly frustrated with BS, are looking for a one time hook-up and need to be very discreet than the bowl is probably not for you.

    The more time, money, street smarts, patience and game you have the better your experience will be. There is no better option for finding beautiful young women willing to be "girlfriends for hire" with all the associated perks....and risks.

    I personally have had great experiences, but not without plenty of flakes and a few attempted scams as well. I take breaks for periods of time just to make sure I'm still in control. The bowl can be a very addicting and expensive hobby.

    Stay safe and have fun!

    Quote Originally Posted by TennisStud90  [View Original Post]
    I've always been on the edge seeking a SB. I always find myself thinking, is it worth it? Between signing up for SA, setting up an, account, searching for a SB, sending messages out to what I imagine is a large number of SBs, getting responses on just a few of the messages, meeting up with the SB, flakes, having different financial goals in mind, etc. Is it really worth it in the end?

    I am sure it differs depending on the time commitment and the financial resources, but does anyone have any input?

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