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  1. #13438

    Exercise, nutrition / supplements, and the Whisper app

    Kind of all over the map with my post, but I'm a devoted follower of the RVA and LA SB forums. I was getting ready to pull the trigger for a paid SA membership last month, but in the interest of cash flow and being frugal, I started checking out the Whisper app; the LA Tinder / mobile apps forum has some posts about the successes that SDs have been having with Whisper. Didn't meet or even target any SBs on Whisper, but I did hit it off with a gorgeous, married 45 year old MILF whose husband doesn't pay attention to her and doesn't arouse or even get her wet anymore. Once a week, same day and time in the afternoon, she'll rub him with KY, lay on her back, and let him do her missionary for two minutes then he's done. So sad.

    I, on the other hand, have been meeting up with her three of the past four weekends. Spanking her ass, pulling her hair, fingering her pussy and ass at the same time, eating her out, pounding her in multiple positions, and giving her more orgasms than she has ever had in her life. No KY needed for us, I can get her wet with ease. I'm having such a blast with my new FWB, I don't have a pressing need to go for any SBs in the immediate future. Takeaway: Civie and SB hook ups are certainly possible with Whisper.

    Exercise: Since the end of January, I have been eating clean (chicken, baked fish, raw broccoli, carrots, cauliflower, grapefruit, limited carbs) and hitting the gym like a demon three or four days a week. I'm 42, so I'm not a young buck, but I'm not that far advanced into middle age yet. I do one hour boxing or kickboxing classes, and typically burn 800-900+ calories per one hour session per my Fitbit. Sometimes if I am extra motivated, I'll do two of these classes back to back. I've lost 18 lbs over the last three weeks. Although my FWB tells me that she can't keep up and that I will be the death of her, I know that erection-wise I could be better. I wasn't getting quite as hard as I wanted even with 25 mg of vitamin V. However, as of this week, I have noticed an improvement in erection quality, which I am sure is due to exercise and nutrition. JZLizard, thank you kindly for your advice on exercise, I concur with your posts on the benefits of exercise and conditioning.

    Nutrition / supplements: For the past two weeks I have been putting my Breville juicer to good use and drinking a juice mix that consists of one beet, three carrots, and one apple. This is a juice recipe I found online for erectile dysfunction; the beet juice is supposed to help with blood flow. The site I found the recipe on said to start with half a beet, because too much at once can supposedly make some people vomit due to toxins being released from the body. After a couple of days I moved up to a whole beet with no issues. As mentioned previously, three weeks into my exercise routine and two weeks into the beet juice, I am having improved erection quality and am even standing at attention when I wake up the last couple of days.

    I also wanted to add that I started taking the supplements that JustLonely mentioned in his 2/15/17 post (one pill each of Ashwangdha, Rhodiola and Maca). (JustLonely-thank you for sharing that gem with the board!) Most likely the improved erection quality is due to my exercising and beet juice intake, as I have only been taking these supplements for a few days, but I'm certain they will only help.

    Just to be on the safe side, I'm still going to take a 25 mg vitamin V when I meet my MILF FWB Monday morning. It's been about a week and a half since we last met, but the wood quality has improved over the last few days even without the V. Poor woman is not going to know what hit her!

  2. #13437

    Special

    I run CL ads now and then for sugar babies. I've had some interesting replies, and never spam or junk, luckily. About October I met a gal who was starting a webcam business in a rural inland CA county. I guess she had been a model herself and realized that all the money was being made by the 'house', so she wanted to be the house. We had a great M&G, she's very bright, ~22, the usual Cali blonde / blue, slim and buxom and well, hot: right, she made her $ as a webcam model. She sent a brief video w / her CL reply that was hot too. Fantastic kisser. Despite the fact that she was down to her last nickel (she even sent me the text from her bank saying she was overdrawn - what kind of negotiating tactic is that?), she wouldn't budge on her price, so we parted. I am now seeing someone in her area (InlandRed) at that price but who is significant trouble, so I went back to her (I'll call her InlandWeb) w / a mild approach. After initial communication glitches, she's now DTF. We'll meet for lunch this week and see how it works.

  3. #13436

    Instant classic!

    Quote Originally Posted by BikeRider  [View Original Post]
    Practice, and more practice.
    Well done good sir. 😂.

  4. #13435
    Quote Originally Posted by AlMelrose  [View Original Post]
    Any hints as to how to last once the baby starts yelling "Fuck me daddy! I finish immediately after that.
    Practice, and more practice.

  5. #13434
    Quote Originally Posted by AlMelrose  [View Original Post]
    Any hints as to how to last once the baby starts yelling "Fuck me daddy! I finish immediately after that.
    Try basic math problems.

    2+2=4, 4+4=8, 8+8=16,16+16=32 etc. Works well if one really isn't good at maths and has to work hard in their mind.

    OR, just think of the tight, wet, young pussy caressing your Johnson and how great it is to be f*cking a young hottie and blow the end off of the rubber!

  6. #13433

    Thinking of Baseball

    Any hints as to how to last once the baby starts yelling "Fuck me daddy! I finish immediately after that.

  7. #13432

    SA tips

    These are valid points. BTW, SA monthly premium membership is $80. Agreed it is still a chump change compared to the time, effort and cost that goes into being a sugar daddy. The problem I'm trying to address is two-fold. One I work best under a little pressure. When I pay upfront for a period of time like with gym memberships, Groupon deals, online courses, etc. I tend to procrastinate until its overdue. Two, with being around a SO I do not want to increase the chances of letting my guard down. I came very close to getting busted by forgetting to erase history on my PC after working late at night and in the AM I find the SO trying to use mine as hers ran into an issue. That said, you have a very valid point of 'flaking' on my part due to inability to service all the girls who might be interested to meet. I try to manage this situation upfront by telling the girls that my work requires me to travel for few weeks from time to time. I guess in most cases the POTs are ok with this as I suppose on the other hand they too are inundated with other multiple requests to meet up. I have upgraded to premium back again and hopefully I will manage to find one or two regulars that could work within my budget and schedule.

    Quote Originally Posted by FredMoore  [View Original Post]
    Assuming you can afford to be a SD, the $70 for premium is a very small expense when spending $ thousands / time period. So sign up -maybe 3 mos and see how it goes. Avoid the "kid in the candy store" syndrome that many new SDs go through. Don't be greedy and take on tmore than you can reasonably handle at any given time. For example, I never work more than 3 Pots at any given time, because what often happens you are inundated with girls ready to meet. This often leads to flaking on your part because you can't service all those girls.

    LE risk sugaring- Nil. Never link sex acts and money in writing or orally. "I will pay an allowance for one day / week to hang out and spend time together" Previously you should have discussed " Are you OK with intimacy once we start an arrangement? " NEVER " I will give you $50 for 2 hours and 3 pops / week. ".

  8. #13431
    About to have my first date tomorrow. Thank you for everyone who posts in here and helps us noobs. This thread has been amazing.

  9. #13430
    Noticed in my area a lot of girls haven't been on for days at a time where they were on nonstop before. Going to assume most of these are mother's with the EIC credits that got held back and they are out spending their money. I am sure by mid-March they will be hopping back big time due to having a month or so of guilt free spending.

  10. #13429
    Quote Originally Posted by Lebruno  [View Original Post]
    just to be sure that I get the best bang for the buck, I want to ask the sugar seniors here as to what are the best practices and strategies you utilize to quickly connect with as many POTs as possible before letting the premium subscription expire.
    Assuming you can afford to be a SD, the $70 for premium is a very small expense when spending $ thousands / time period. So sign up -maybe 3 mos and see how it goes. Avoid the "kid in the candy store" syndrome that many new SDs go through. Don't be greedy and take on tmore than you can reasonably handle at any given time. For example, I never work more than 3 Pots at any given time, because what often happens you are inundated with girls ready to meet. This often leads to flaking on your part because you can't service all those girls.

    LE risk sugaring- Nil. Never link sex acts and money in writing or orally. "I will pay an allowance for one day / week to hang out and spend time together" Previously you should have discussed " Are you OK with intimacy once we start an arrangement? " NEVER " I will give you $50 for 2 hours and 3 pops / week. ".

  11. #13428
    Quote Originally Posted by SugarDaddyX  [View Original Post]
    If you treat the first meet like a casual date, you have nothing to worry about. If your first meet is going right to a hotel for sex acts you negotiated online, then you might have a little to worry about, since you are essentially dealing with an escort versus a sugar baby. But since no one on here has yet to report hard evidence that LE agencies are actively using sugar baby sites for sting operations, you should still be free of worries.
    As you said, any girl willing to agree to sex for cash with someone she hasn't even met yet online, without caring to see and get to know him at least briefly in person, is a pro. Even though the risk of sting is low as you said, any girl willing to do that has a high chance of being in possession of drugs or other issues that could draw unwanted legal attention or put the SD at risk of getting robbed.

  12. #13427
    I think that is almost the whole point of the past 13,000+ posts in this thread. There are a lot of different strategies based upon what you are looking for, how much you can afford, how much time you have and how discreet / secure do you need to be.

    I suggest reviewing the "Sugar Baby Thread Highlights" thread on the same Richmond board as this thread and see if you can find some answers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lebruno  [View Original Post]
    It is about six months since I quit being a premium member at SA. At that time I had about 50 active connections who had given me either their email address or phone numbers. I decided to just work these 50 contacts and let my paid membership expire. While I enjoyed some interesting dates and couple visits to the FC I also saw the number of active contacts go down dramatically just as fast they added up originally. Some just disappeared out of SA and stopped responding to my texts. Some relocated out of State for college or work. Some others informed me that they don't do this anymore as they now have a BF or their current life situation does not allow them to do this. Long story short my list of 50 POTs got dwindled down to something like 5. So I have decided to renew my premium subscription once again. That said, just to be sure that I get the best bang for the buck, I want to ask the sugar seniors here as to what are the best practices and strategies you utilize to quickly connect with as many POTs as possible before letting the premium subscription expire.

  13. #13426

    SA fishing strategy

    It is about six months since I quit being a premium member at SA. At that time I had about 50 active connections who had given me either their email address or phone numbers. I decided to just work these 50 contacts and let my paid membership expire. While I enjoyed some interesting dates and couple visits to the FC I also saw the number of active contacts go down dramatically just as fast they added up originally. Some just disappeared out of SA and stopped responding to my texts. Some relocated out of State for college or work. Some others informed me that they don't do this anymore as they now have a BF or their current life situation does not allow them to do this. Long story short my list of 50 POTs got dwindled down to something like 5. So I have decided to renew my premium subscription once again. That said, just to be sure that I get the best bang for the buck, I want to ask the sugar seniors here as to what are the best practices and strategies you utilize to quickly connect with as many POTs as possible before letting the premium subscription expire.

  14. #13425
    Quote Originally Posted by Gesab69  [View Original Post]
    Am I the only one paranoid about LEO? I have my first appointment this weekend. The SB's number links to a Facebook page. That page's name matches a Twitter, Instagram, etc. The pictures across all social media are of the same person, so the SB is obviously real. But, I just cannot help but be paranoid.
    If you treat the first meet like a casual date, you have nothing to worry about. If your first meet is going right to a hotel for sex acts you negotiated online, then you might have a little to worry about, since you are essentially dealing with an escort versus a sugar baby. But since no one on here has yet to report hard evidence that LE agencies are actively using sugar baby sites for sting operations, you should still be free of worries.

    SDX.

  15. #13424
    Quote Originally Posted by Gesab69  [View Original Post]
    Am I the only one paranoid about LEO? I have my first appointment this weekend. The SB's number links to a Facebook page. That page's name matches a Twitter, Instagram, etc. The pictures across all social media are of the same person, so the SB is obviously real. But, I just cannot help but be paranoid.
    You can play in the bowl without ever breaking the law. Just don't offer money for sex. The way I do it, no money is offered at all, only gifted to them after the fact.

    Now with strippers on the other hand, I've been known to "make an offer", but there's no risk there -- they don't exactly send vice cops to work undercover as strippers and grind out lap dances, assuming they could ever find one hot enough to be believable in the first place. I can just see her testimony now: "well I had to let him put his fingers inside me during the backroom couch dance, otherwise my cover would be blown".

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